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Title: The end of Linux as we know it?
Post by: richtea on September 22, 2018, 03:04:31 PM

First GitHub, now Linus:

http://www.occidentaldissent.com/2018/09/17/sjws-just-ruined-linux/ (http://www.occidentaldissent.com/2018/09/17/sjws-just-ruined-linux/)


(Just waiting for a moderator to identify "offensive content" in the link, and memory-hole it. Yeah, truth hurts.)




There is discussion aplenty on the chans, for those who care.

Title: Re: The end of Linux as we know it?
Post by: Moltke on September 22, 2018, 03:49:02 PM

At this point in time, everyone's expendable. That being said, linus' kernel isn't the only one; there are plenty more around! Linux "as we know it" is far from meeting its end. Even if big companies get their hands on and actually size some part of the giant and vast-infinite open source universe...well, that's basically it; it's huge for them to take away from us! :)

Fear not my fellow linuxers and may the kernel be with you! lol

Title: Re: The end of Linux as we know it?
Post by: Coastie on September 23, 2018, 06:41:05 PM

I have seen arguments for using the BSD kernel as a base for a distro as in Debian GNU/kFreeBSD http://wiki.debian.org/Debian_GNU/kFreeBSD_why (http://wiki.debian.org/Debian_GNU/kFreeBSD_why).

Title: Re: The end of Linux as we know it?
Post by: anon222 on December 23, 2018, 02:18:12 PM

There were some changes with the forum rules since my last visit too.
After reading them, got an impression that even jokes about Microsoft are not welcome. :)

Now I can't use the words like [removed] or maybe even [removed], like back then... ;D

Title: Re: The end of Linux as we know it?
Post by: TheDead on December 24, 2018, 07:39:42 AM

We can't use [banana] or [porcupine] anymore? Darn! ;)

Happy holidays!

Title: Re: The end of Linux as we know it?
Post by: anon222 on December 25, 2018, 07:29:14 AM

Quote from: TheDead on December 24, 2018, 07:39:42 AM

We can't use [banana] or [porcupine] anymore? Darn! ;)

Happy holidays!

We can use them but never in the same sentence. ;)
Who knows what can happen if porcupine goes bananas. :)

Thanks. Happy Hollidays. :)
You guys celebrate Christmas today, ours is in two weeks.

Title: Re: The end of Linux as we know it?
Post by: TheDead on December 25, 2018, 08:06:57 AM

Quote from: misko_2083 on December 25, 2018, 07:29:14 AM

Thanks. Happy Hollidays. :)
You guys celebrate Christmas today, ours is in two weeks.

Two weeks? I didn't think there was that many timezones, the Earth got bigger this year, it will have to take a new year's resolution and shed a few pounds! ;)
Or... I'm guessing, Merry Orthodox Christmas, a little early! :)

Cheers, but drink responsibly people, that includes you granpa! (Granpa : Aww man!)

Title: Re: The end of Linux as we know it?
Post by: Oobuntus on December 25, 2018, 05:35:09 PM

I begin to be a trifle doubtful now whenever I recommend Linux to friends and relatives.
 
And old blog posts like the one that follows do not help to assuage my concern:
https://igurublog.wordpress.com/2014/02/17/biography-of-a-cypherpunk-and-how-cryptography-affects-your-life/ (https://igurublog.wordpress.com/2014/02/17/biography-of-a-cypherpunk-and-how-cryptography-affects-your-life/)

Has there been any discussion here in the forum about IgnorantGuru's post that I have missed?

Perhaps the future of Linux is to become the 'Lesser Of Three Evils'.

Happy New Year...

Title: Re: The end of Linux as we know it?
Post by: anon222 on December 26, 2018, 10:53:11 AM

The Linux kernel, especially the proprietary blobs that are part of it, is a special story ... that part is under the full control of powerful corporations (M$, IBM, Intel, etc.) so that every story about a particular "security" of linux is naive and irrelevant .

Users should decide what is good for them, and the linux kernel is in any case less and less "good", except for the companies that finance and participate in its development.

Title: Re: The end of Linux as we know it?
Post by: richtea on December 27, 2018, 12:41:26 PM

Quote from: Oobuntus on December 25, 2018, 05:35:09 PM

And old blog posts like the one that follows do not help to assuage my concern:
https://igurublog.wordpress.com/2014/02/17/biography-of-a-cypherpunk-and-how-cryptography-affects-your-life/ (https://igurublog.wordpress.com/2014/02/17/biography-of-a-cypherpunk-and-how-cryptography-affects-your-life/)

Rather comprehensive, essential reading. Things certainly seem following this projection:


http://editions-hache.com/essais/pdf/kaczynski2.pdf (http://editions-hache.com/essais/pdf/kaczynski2.pdf)




As for [removed], it has become so passé! Full obliteration is now in vogue.

Title: Re: The end of Linux as we know it?
Post by: trinidad on December 27, 2018, 01:59:59 PM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Specters_of_Marx (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Specters_of_Marx)

Derrida had the new internationalism and its unavoidably infectious hypocrisy pegged. New names same oppressors. Making money is in its least ethical spectre in international business. Imperialism was more essentially ethical. Of course in a genuine assessment communism was even less ethical than capitalism. Linux doesn't have a lot to do with international business and political ethics. It once aspired to a kind of lame geekdom of anarchy, but gave itself much too much credit as an influence. Capitalism is not an idealism, rather in fact, it is natural enough to be named an inherent quality of human reason... but of course any ethical aspirations that could be acquired by it are dependent on that same humanity... which we seem to be in the process of redefining in this age.

TC   

Title: Re: The end of Linux as we know it?
Post by: TheDead on December 28, 2018, 05:05:10 PM

Quite a profound forum post for the holidays! ;)I read quite a few years ago that Capitalism has a tendancy to self destruct and just cannot be substained indefinately.But, even is a system in place is perfect on paper. even the best ones will fail eventually because is is run by humans.Be it, power, greed, control, etc. there will always be people willing to step on other people's head because they think they deserve more.
This's the saeson to be sharing! ;)
Cheers!

Title: Re: The end of Linux as we know it?
Post by: Moltke on December 28, 2018, 07:05:47 PM

If you wanna have a good read may I suggest this https://libcom.org/files/Eric%20Hobsbawm%20-%20Age%20Of%20Extremes%20-%201914-1991.pdf