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Re: should i build a pc? whats best for Linux Lite 2.0?
« Reply #15 on: November 17, 2014, 12:48:28 AM »
 

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elliot,

I used $500 as an example, not to mean you must spend that much.  I'm pretty sure you can do better than that, especially if you can reuse some components.  Haven't looked at your computer links yet, but will do that later.  Can you provide answers to questions below about current computer please?

Do you have working DVD player?  If so, what kind of connection -- SATA or IDE?

Is your hard drive still good and do you plan to keep using it?  If so, is it SATA or IDE connection?

What is exact model# of your monitor?

What is exact model# of your power supply and how old is it?

Are there any other components that you are thinking of re-using?  If so, list them and their connector types.

Please provide list of current hardware specs by doing the following:

*  Install inxi program by opening a terminal and entering following two commands:
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sudo apt-get install inxi

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*  Copy entire output of last command and paste it back here in forum.  (See here for best way to post terminal output)


Once I have above info, I'll take a look at components on Newegg and see if I can come up with a reasonably priced example of possible build for you.
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Re: should i build a pc? whats best for Linux Lite 2.0?
« Reply #16 on: November 17, 2014, 02:06:26 AM »
 

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Kernel: 3.13.0-36-generic i686 (32 bit, gcc: 4.8.2)
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Machine:   System: HP Pavilion 061 product:
           Mobo: ASUSTek model: EMERY version: 1.05 Bios: Phoenix version: 3.06 date: 01/25/2006
CPU:       Dual core Intel Pentium D CPU (-MCP-) cache: 2048 KB flags: (lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 vmx) bmips: 12004.1
           Clock Speeds: 1: 3001.015 MHz 2: 3001.015 MHz
Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA G96 [GeForce 9500 GT] bus-ID: 01:00.0
           X.Org: 1.15.1 drivers: nvidia (unloaded: fbdev,vesa,nouveau) Resolution: 1920x1200@60.0hz
           GLX Renderer: GeForce 9500 GT/PCIe/SSE2 GLX Version: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 331.38 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio:     Card: Intel NM10/ICH7 Family High Definition Audio Controller driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1b.0
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture ver: k3.13.0-36-generic
Network:   Card-1: Intel NM10/ICH7 Family LAN Controller driver: e100 ver: 3.5.24-k2-NAPI port: ee00 bus-ID: 02:08.0
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Partition: ID: / size: 269G used: 203G (80%) fs: ext4 ID: swap-1 size: 6.98GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap
RAID:      No RAID devices detected - /proc/mdstat and md_mod kernel raid module present
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 40.0C mobo: N/A gpu: 0.0:47C
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so far i checked the ram, i am now going to check the card, ram passed... gut feeling is power supply even tho its way newer than card i heard they break and it was cheap.. :(
sorry this did not post right, i do not see the menu like on the link describing how to add the #, ill try to make it readable...
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Answer the other questions I asked too.

Also, I forgot to ask if having Windows is a requirement or desire for you also?

I looked at links you provided for refurbs and on average I would say you're paying about an extra $75-100 over what you could get those for because of having Windows loaded on them.  Particularly the HP's, which I've seen numerous times on Craigslist for much less.  The AMD-based Asus I'm not too familiar with, but am guessing it's a little high also.

However, you likely have more "peace of mind" purchasing through Tiger Direct or Newegg than taking chance on Craigslist.  So take that into account also.

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Re: should i build a pc? whats best for Linux Lite 2.0?
« Reply #18 on: November 17, 2014, 02:53:47 AM »
 

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sorry i think someone just stole 120 dollars from me and im steamed....
the hd is 1tb sata
no windows wanted
pleny of dvd-r (both)
its a logisys power supply 650 about 3 years old. cheap tho
hanns g monitor i dont see a # on it, its big tho

ill use the power supply or graphics once i put the original that came with pc and find out which (if any of the two) are broke.
i was going to do it now but i'm so pisssed writing this is difficult, thanks for taking the time i'm sorry if i did not give you all you need.

will post later need to cool off but thanks so much man, its really bad timing for someone to burn me just now is all and i don't take shit like that well especially now.
 

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« Reply #19 on: November 17, 2014, 07:16:44 AM »
 

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I was looking at some of the available motherboards, thinking a new motherboard and reusing your processor might be a inexpensive way to get more features such as usb 3.0; however all the ones I saw only have usb 2.0 (there may be others with 3.0 but I have not seen them yet).

I came across this article though: http://www.pcworld.com/article/2043035/how-to-add-usb-3-0-to-your-desktop-pc.html

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Re: should i build a pc? whats best for Linux Lite 2.0?
« Reply #20 on: November 17, 2014, 09:16:56 AM »
 

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thanks man this stuff is all kind of confusing to me now i got help and was young when i last deal with a motherboard and basically forgot the entire process. this website claims pci can get you usb 3.0 so i will search for that. i have only seen them for usb-e unfortunately.... thanks for your time again i wouldn't know what to look for.
 

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« Reply #21 on: November 17, 2014, 10:53:04 AM »
 

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Latest email. As promised.

30 buck rebate on the below. You can  use your hard drive and video card. Maybe ram also?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=83-280-622&utm_medium=Email&nm_mc=EMC-GD111714&cm_mmc=EMC-GD111714-_-index-_-Item-_-83-280-622

I'd just add yours (hard drive) in another bay and use bios to control what boots.

Full ad.

http://promotions.newegg.com/neemail/guerrilla/LP/14-Nov/index-RLUR9-17.html?utm_medium=Email&nm_mc=EMC-GD111714&cm_mmc=EMC-GD111714-_-index-_-Header-_-SeeAll&et_cid=13026&et_rid=2363446&et_p1=

Edit: The Bare bones offer to me from Newegg Black Friday pre-sale email for Tuesday 18Nov2014

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Combo Price After MIR:  $449.99
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Plenty on USB 3 in There. UEFI bios also.
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Re: should i build a pc? whats best for Linux Lite 2.0?
« Reply #22 on: November 18, 2014, 01:32:13 PM »
 

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Elliott,

You never got back with rest of answers, but here is sample build that should be good for you.

AMD A10-5800K Trinity Quad-Core 3.8GHz  (CPU)
$109.99

ASUS A88X-PRO FM2+ / FM2 AMD A88X (Bolton D4) HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard  (Motherboard)
$119.49

Thermaltake TR2 W0070 430W ATX12V v2.3 Power Supply  (Power Supply)
$37.99

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600  (RAM)
$44.99

Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case  (Computer Case)
$39.99


TOTAL:  $352.45


That's a good price for a pretty decent machine.  (Some components have a mail-in rebate, but I did not figure that into estimate.  End cost will be slightly lower after any rebates.)  The CPU has integrated graphics, so no need for separate video card.  You might be able to re-use your case and can save $40 more that way.  If really necessary, could downgrade to a dual-core version of the processor and save another $50 or so.  The power supply will be plenty for this setup, but if you plan to add a gaming video card to the system you'll want to look into a more powerful model and make sure it has connectors for the card.


Other things you could substitute in place of above if you want to:

AMD A6-5400K Trinity Dual-Core 3.6GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) Socket FM2 65W Desktop APU

G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB)

Antec BP550 Plus 550W Continuous Power ATX12V V2.2 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply


If you do need a new DVD player, this one is very good and only $20 when not on sale:

ASUS 24X DVD Burner


Lastly, although the CPU should already come with a coat of thermal compound, you might want to consider getting this.  (I prefer to clean off factory stuff and replace with this, but it's not something you "have" to do.)

Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver Thermal Compound


P.s.  Computer case listed above does not have leads to USB 3.0 ports on front of case, so you'll have USB 3.0 ports built-in to motherboard on back, but not in front.  If that's really important to you, then you'll need to pick a more expensive case that has leads to front ports for USB 3.0.
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Re: should i build a pc? whats best for Linux Lite 2.0?
« Reply #23 on: November 19, 2014, 09:26:21 AM »
 

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Hi Gold_Finger,

The AMD APUs (like the one linked in the previous post) have my attention. Do you have any experience (direct or indirect) with linux graphics drivers for these processors?

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« Reply #24 on: November 19, 2014, 11:28:04 AM »
 

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Hi,

I honestly don't work for Tiger Direct, but I did happen to see this deal, and there seem to be a lo of folks looking for new systems.  It's a AMD quad core for under $300:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=8909245&CatId=2627

I am not that familiar with AMD processors so I really can's advise on that, and it only had 2G memory, but seems like a really good basic computer deal.

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Hi Gold_Finger,

The AMD APUs (like the one linked in the previous post) have my attention. Do you have any experience (direct or indirect) with linux graphics drivers for these processors?

Thanks
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Hi Scott,

I don't have any direct experience with the AMD APU's but have seen that a number of people on forums use them.  I've been curious about them too and have thought of making a computer with one myself, but the last thing I need right now is another computer.  (Have too many as it is.)

Main desktop and main laptop both use AMD Phenom II Quad Core CPU and motherboards have onboard Radeon HD 4250 graphics.  On both of them I've never used proprietary AMD drivers, the standard linux drivers have always worked just fine for me.  I don't play games, so never bothered trying proprietary drivers.  Nowadays, there are no proprietary drivers for them because AMD dropped support for them which is not a problem for me.

The AMD APU's are newer and I believe that AMD proprietary drivers are available for them if standard linux drivers aren't satisfactory for people.



@Chris L,

Nice find on Tiger Direct!  Looks like a lower powered quad core APU than one I selected for example, but yours includes Windows and a 1TB HDD.  Hard to beat that deal if the basic APU is all someone needs.


In general, there will be plenty of good deals like above popping up on websites and in stores now that Xmas shopping season has geared up.
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Appreciate the information. Now I just need to decide what I really need/want (and how much I want to spend) - always seems to come down to something along those lines.:)
 

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I can now run any and all 64 bit distros and that usually means 10% boost over 32 bit distros. Desktop Environment XFCE runs smoother than KDE. I've used LiveOS with persistent, regular HDD and SSD drives. Next I'll be converting the DVD tray into a second hard drive. Then make the SSD for OS system and HDD for Home storage. My twins girls each have their own E1505. Gem of these laptops is getting higher resolution displays. They are very easy to take apart and upgrade.



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Answer the other questions I asked too.

Also, I forgot to ask if having Windows is a requirement or desire for you also?

I looked at links you provided for refurbs and on average I would say you're paying about an extra $75-100 over what you could get those for because of having Windows loaded on them.  Particularly the HP's, which I've seen numerous times on Craigslist for much less.  The AMD-based Asus I'm not too familiar with, but am guessing it's a little high also.

However, you likely have more "peace of mind" purchasing through Tiger Direct or Newegg than taking chance on Craigslist.  So take that into account also.

Will wait for rest of answers before looking into potential build components for you.

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