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Title: Password problem
Post by: Colin23erk on November 07, 2015, 02:27:30 PM
Got a problem entering passwords that are not correct.


This has been going on for a while without understanding what was going on for a while .


Today I tried to to sign into a user account but I was unable to to get the 2 passwords to match how ever careful I typed them in . Because they are only seen as *** I cannot see what is going on .


I had a similar  intermittent   problems a few years ago with  my Samsung NC110 when I thought it was either the keyboard or the motherboard. I changed the motherboard and my problems went away . I definitely think it is a Hardware problem .


Has anyone experienced similar problems as it is driving me crazy. Probably it is the cause of why I have had one problem after another trying to restore both Windows 7 and LinuxLite






Colin



Title: Re: Password problem
Post by: Colin23erk on November 07, 2015, 03:44:26 PM
A feature that I noticed on Widows 10 is an icon on the end of the Password Box  that shows the characters
you have entered when you click and hold  .

Also in  Android the actual characters appear briefly as they are entered

I do not feel that they compromise my security unless they could be observed outside my private home where passwords are mostly used

Maybe a future feature for Linux
Title: Re: Password problem
Post by: Duckeenie on November 07, 2015, 04:26:46 PM
Hope I'm not being impolite but I just had to bring attention to how unexpectedly awesome your "Widows 10" typo turned out, especially when you consider the demographic of LL :D
Title: Re: Password problem
Post by: paul1149 on November 07, 2015, 06:08:36 PM
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Because they are only seen as *** I cannot see what is going on

When I have a problem like this I open a text editor and type the PW there, then copy/paste it over. Sometimes PW fields have Paste disabled from their context menu, but virtually always Ctrl-v works anyway.

Title: Re: Password problem
Post by: Colin23erk on November 08, 2015, 11:55:40 AM
Thanks for that idea Paul -- as you said that pasting is often not allowed -- I will try Ctr + v . I am not very good at remembering to use shortcuts ! 


Hi Duckeenie


Your reply was a bit over my head but taken in the good spirit that you sent it .


I have been trying out a Lenovo 2in1 while they still have a 500 Gb HDD that can be changed for a SSD that I have . Almost all the 11 inch low end laptops are now using
32 GB eMMC which I understand are soldered onto the Motherboard and not easily upgraded . [/font][/color][/font][/size]
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[/size]I  was interested to see what Win 8 was like before upgrading to Win 10 while  it was free . I found Win 8 difficult to get on with . Win 10 is better but I will be using Lite as my everyday OS. as I prefer using menus rather than icons  and how quietly it does its job . My only problem I have is how often the only way to change something thats wrong is needing to use the command line .  [/color]
[/size]Im a strong advocate that the user interface should be  GUI with all the complicated commands  going on below the surface[/color]
[/size]Computers are the servants[/color] of the user  and they should do the work - not the other way round .[/color][/color]My computer experience goes back to  ZX 81 and ZX spectrum when even the programs had to be laboriously typed in . If computer buffs want a low level experience they should make their own programs and input them in hexidecimal  [/color]Me I want to use a computer for the help it can be to make my like simpler.[/color][/color]Colin
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Title: Re: Password problem
Post by: Duckeenie on November 08, 2015, 01:17:05 PM
@Colin23erk

Desperately trying to think of a funny reply but confidence is smashed now :D
Title: Re: Password problem
Post by: torreydale on November 08, 2015, 06:01:48 PM
@Colin23erk,

Duckeenie is humorously pointing out that it's possible you are typing in the password incorrectly, considering the fact that you typed Widows 10 instead of Windows 10.
Title: Re: Password problem
Post by: Duckeenie on November 08, 2015, 08:46:28 PM
@torreydale: Thanks for your back up mate :)

Unfortunately due to my inappropriately fused brain cells I will have break my previous post down.

I was playing on the fact that in simple terms a Widow is someone that has lost something and given that many of us here will have left Windows 10, Widow seemed like an appropriate description of some of us.

Iknow, I know...It did somehow seem funny at the time though. :/
Title: Re: Password problem
Post by: Colin23erk on November 10, 2015, 11:52:55 AM
OK - Duh
   I had not realized I had made a typo in my post but then I am a old Widower.  Nothing worse when we make a funny we end up having to explain it to the victim because they are not in the same planet ! I was more interested in trying to understand what demographic  meant to notice about the Widow. . By the way do you know of any mature sexy rich widow for a good time - LOL- but not Widows 95 I'm more an XP man

With the Samsung keyboard I find the keys very prone to not adding the letter if I don't hit the keys fully when typing text at speed (before I forget what I want to write) . When I was typing the passwords in after the first failure to match them I typed them with special care and it still failed . The number of ***** was the same so I assumed they should match .
Something that occurred to me is that I assume what I type is encrypted to send over the internet could somehow that is point where my input gets corrupted . 

Colin

Title: Re: Password problem
Post by: Duckeenie on November 10, 2015, 02:43:26 PM
@Colin: Widows 95. :D

I believe TCP/IP has built in error checking so I'm not convinced your password would get corrupted while transmitted over the internet.

Is it only passwords that aren't are not keying the way you expect?
Is this happening in different browsers?
Is this happening with different websites?
Have you tried swapping out the keyboard on this occasion?
Title: Re: Password problem
Post by: Colin23erk on November 10, 2015, 05:16:54 PM
Hi Duckeenie

In answer to your queries

I have experienced problems on other sites when login in but  as I only needed to input my passwords once I assumed I failed because of a typo.

On the question of  the use of encryption I was not thinking of the transmission but the part done in my PC between me pressing a key and the data being transmitted to line .

Not tried it on different browser as I did not think about doing that.

The keyboard swap idea is in hand with a new one is winging  its way  to me by snail mail  as I speak.
Sorry did not know how to describe how a snail moves  -so I looked it up
[/size]The snail moves by creeping on a flat "foot" underneath the body. The band of muscles in the foot contract and expand and this create a kind of rippling movement that pushes the snail forward. The "foot" has a special gland that produces a slimy mucus to make a slippery trackAmazing - I learn something New every dayColin