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General => Off Topic => Topic started by: shengchieh on June 09, 2015, 11:58:12 PM

Title: LL download from sourcdeforege
Post by: shengchieh on June 09, 2015, 11:58:12 PM
Recent articles:

Warning: Don’t Download Software From SourceForge If You Can Help It
http://www.howtogeek.com/218764/warning-don%E2%80%99t-download-software-from-sourceforge-if-you-can-help-it/

Replace SourceForge with these Better Alternatives
http://www.linuxlinks.com/article/20150606161447912/Alternatives.html

Technically, I don't think it matters too much since the download iso
must have the correct md5sum.  But it's the principle.  Your thought?

Sheng-Chieh
Title: Re: LL download from sourcdeforege
Post by: N4RPS on June 10, 2015, 01:53:03 AM
Hello!

Thank you for calling SourceForge into question. So, I guess they've become no better than MajorGeeks, Softpedia, C-NET, and most of the rest of the Windows file-sharing services.

So many places are doing exactly what you (and How To Geek) are claiming they do. I've called a number of them on this issue, and when they delete my replies, I then know that they're a part of the problem.

I have used SourceForge for Linux and some open-source Windows apps without my running into this, but no matter what platform I'm on at the moment, I almost always download through the developer's website, or use the repositories. I also user PPAs for the latest versions of titles, when they're better than what's in the repositories. Note that this strategy can be hit-or-miss...

73 DE N4RPS
Rob
Title: Re: LL download from sourcdeforege
Post by: rokytnji on June 10, 2015, 03:59:14 AM
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But it's the principle.  Your thought?

Sorry Bros. I care about how SourceForge wraps up Windows Open source files as much as I care about Bruce Jenner becoming a Women.

But it is always about choice. You do what you wish. I have my own mind, so I do as I wish.
In the South we call that "Druthers".
Title: Re: LL download from sourcdeforege
Post by: Jerry on June 10, 2015, 04:02:08 AM
Moved to Off Topic since this does not affect LL.
Title: Re: LL download from sourcdeforege
Post by: Teddy on July 06, 2015, 08:27:28 PM
SourceForge used to be my go-to place for downloading VLC, Linux Lite and many other open source projects. Not anymore. SF has hijacked accounts and used them for their own benefit, without permission from the account owner / maintainer.

GIMP's Windows account has gotten hijacked and SF put revenue-generating adware with the regular installer for GIMP.  It's not just GIMP, either.

According to Ars Technica, these projects recently got hijacked by a SF staff member by the name of "sf-editor1"
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/05/sourceforge-grabs-gimp-for-windows-account-wraps-installer-in-bundle-pushing-adware/ (http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/05/sourceforge-grabs-gimp-for-windows-account-wraps-installer-in-bundle-pushing-adware/)

I've had it with SF. They have basically become FileHippo, but much worse.

Please Jerry, I BEG YOU, move off of SourceForge! Use GitHub or FossHub
Title: Re: LL download from sourcdeforege
Post by: Jerry on July 06, 2015, 09:02:22 PM
A basic counter-arguement to that is that Microsoft have been engaged in unethical behaviour since day 1, but people insist on using it still. Ubuntu didn't tell people they were sending info to Amazon, yet people continued to use it even after they were caught out. The world is full of hypocrisy. If SF did anything to harm LL, we will look elsewhere for hosting. We are not affected by this and until we are, we wouldn't arbitrarily leave SF because of what they did to other projects.
Title: Re: LL download from sourcdeforege
Post by: rokytnji on July 06, 2015, 09:53:24 PM
If it is any consolation Jerry. We get the same flak from certain AntiX members  for our iso hosting on sourceforge .

Seeing that we do the heavy lifting. Funding is limited. Team is small.
They are entitled to their opinion.
But that is all they are entitled to.

Cuz we don't care how they do it in Windows.
We don't do Windows.

Title: Re: LL download from sourcdeforege
Post by: N4RPS on July 06, 2015, 11:42:13 PM
Hello!

Rok, that reminds me of a decal I saw on the back of a pickup the other day - one featuring the flag the PC here are demonizing these days, and saying:

"I DON'T CARE HOW YOU DID IT UP NORTH"...

73 DE N4RPS
Rob
Title: Re: LL download from sourcdeforege
Post by: Wirezfree on July 07, 2015, 04:41:24 AM
Over here we have the opposite...
Displaying a flag in public, clearly linked to terrorism...
People have been arrested for far less than this.

This, the day before 7/7 remembrance
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-33406768 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-33406768)
Title: Re: LL download from sourcdeforege
Post by: anon222 on July 07, 2015, 08:03:05 AM
Quote from: Teddy5090 on July 06, 2015, 08:27:28 PM
SourceForge used to be my go-to place for downloading VLC, Linux Lite and many other open source projects. Not anymore. SF has hijacked accounts and used them for their own benefit, without permission from the account owner / maintainer.

GIMP's Windows account has gotten hijacked and SF put revenue-generating adware with the regular installer for GIMP.  It's not just GIMP, either.

According to Ars Technica, these projects recently got hijacked by a SF staff member by the name of "sf-editor1"
  • Nearly all of the Apache Foundation Projects - OpenOffice, Apache HTTP Server, etc.
  • Mozilla Projects - Firefox, Thunderbird & SeaMonkey
  • Drupal & WordPress Content Management Systems
  • And more in the article link below...
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/05/sourceforge-grabs-gimp-for-windows-account-wraps-installer-in-bundle-pushing-adware/ (http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/05/sourceforge-grabs-gimp-for-windows-account-wraps-installer-in-bundle-pushing-adware/)

I've had it with SF. They have basically become FileHippo, but much worse.

Please Jerry, I BEG YOU, move off of SourceForge! Use GitHub or FossHub
As far I can see SourceForge is taking over the accounts that are abandoned by their respective owners.
Then SF packs new versions of software (without the consent of the software maintainers) into installers that install addwares on people's PCs along with the software.
For now this affects only software for Windows.
Well, it's just wrong to push the addware to people along with the software. It's like getting a box of chocolates and a ****roach.
Secondly, they are doing that without the consent of the software maintainers. Not a nice thing to do but it's a free software and anyone can redistribute.
Wrapping it into installers and adding bunch of addware or spyware must be a profitable thing to do, otherwise SF wouldn't do it.
That also backfires at them as a reliable place for downloading the software, and also harms their reputation. It also harms the software name and reputation.
As for Linux Lite, stay safe, always do checksums when downloading the ISO files. Don't add software from unreliable sources and personal package archives (PPA's).
Be carefull about installing *.deb files you downloaded from the internet. It's better to use the one that's allready in the software repositories.
If you see Linux Lite iso wrapped into something like installer avoid it by all means. It might not affect the Linux Lite itself but can easily affect Windows.