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Linux Lite Future
« on: December 04, 2017, 09:26:54 PM »
 

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Hi guys,
I don't know if this is a weird question but I'm curious if Jerry and the team have long-term ambitions or goals that they can share with us.  As a relatively new but big fan of Linux Lite I would like more users to try this distro and embrace it. I'd like to see it's ranking rise on distrowatch.

Another weird question along those lines...  I don't know how the development teams of all these distros operate but I was wondering if smaller but similar distros ever merged to compete with larger distros. For example, (not that I want anything about LL to change at all) could there ever come a day when Linux Lite and Xubuntu merge?  DISCLAMER- I know almost nothing about Xubuntu other than it's based on Ubuntu and uses the xfce desktop.

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« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2017, 01:36:32 AM »
 

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This is not an ambitious OS. Our ongoing goal is to show Windows users that Linux is not the hard OS they thought or heard it was. We're here to dispel myths. I'm also not interested in rankings or competing or merging with other OS's. We are purely focused on helping Windows people transition as simply as we can. This is ongoing, a work in progress.
 

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« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2017, 04:50:16 AM »
 

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I think I would add that Linux Lite is aimed at keeping older, modest hardware running rather than tossing away a perfectly good machine just because it's not upgradable to the demands of big, resource-hungry operating systems like Windows 10
 

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« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2017, 05:31:26 AM »
 

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« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2017, 07:04:14 AM »
 

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I think I would add that Linux Lite is aimed at keeping older, modest hardware running rather than tossing away a perfectly good machine just because it's not upgradable to the demands of big, resource-hungry operating systems like Windows 10


Also correct.

Having said that, I'm preparing for lots of hate mail when we drop 32bit next year  :-\
 

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« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2017, 08:00:46 AM »
 

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The fact that Ubuntu, which Linux Lite is based on, is dropping 32-bit support is hardly your fault. The amount of coding required from the kernel on up is staggering. It's also worth mentioning that any computer made after 2009 will support a 64-bit OS. For those people I would suggest getting a little more memory. If the computer is at least dual core, you're good to go. I have an older HP with a less than 2.0MHz processor, but I put 4gb. of memory in it. That computer is running a 64-bit Linux OS. No problems at all. For super-old computers 32-bit Linux Lite series 3 is supported until 2021. So people still have options.
 

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« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2017, 11:48:32 AM »
 

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I did my annual year end "run thru the distros" and still haven't found a better one.
But then I'm comparing them all the Lite.
I have a 2008 Acer 32bit that Lite has kept running for a bunch of years.
Guess it's time to upgrade to a 64.
With this advance warning I'll have time to shop.
I'll watch for a newer laptop.... and when it's up and running.... it'll be runnin' Lite.
Not bad for a 72 year old, huh?

Many thanks to the team, and to you Jerry....
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« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2017, 12:38:32 PM »
 

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... Our ongoing goal is to show Windows users that Linux is not the hard OS they thought or heard it was. ...

Jerry and the team are doing a great job doing exactly that.  :D

Some of us are former Mac, Windows, and OS2 users that even after we sampled other Linux distros once we found Linux Lite there is no reason to leave after years of using Linux Lite. Some of the so called "advanced users" distros have more problems than they are worth. Can't beat keeping it "Simple, Fast, Free."  8)


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« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2017, 03:50:37 PM »
 

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I think I would add that Linux Lite is aimed at keeping older, modest hardware running rather than tossing away a perfectly good machine just because it's not upgradable to the demands of big, resource-hungry operating systems like Windows 10


Also correct.

Having said that, I'm preparing for lots of hate mail when we drop 32bit next year  :-\

Currently 50% of registrations on the database are using 32bit Jerry.  That is a LOT of newbies to cast adrift because of what an OS provider (UBUNTU) has dictated is obsolete.

The decision of course is yours, but I believe it would be a let down on what you have started. 

I would encourage you to look at starting a Debian 32bit fork of LL..  so the good work can continue for older, but still functioning, hardware.

My 2Cs worth.

BTW,  out of interest I recently tried a full install of ANTIX on my 32bit Fuji and found it nowhere as intuitive as LL. 
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« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2017, 05:16:25 PM »
 

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... I would encourage you to look at starting a Debian 32bit fork of LL..  so the good work can continue for older, but still functioning, hardware. ...

My uneducated response to that idea is that a second fork or changing to a Debian base would be a tremendous amount of work for Jerry and his team. Some times you just have to realize you have to replace a 32 bit computer with a new or used 64 bit computer.

Just wondering, why was originally Ubuntu instead of Debian chosen for the base of Linux Lite?


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« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2017, 07:14:23 PM »
 

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Out of that 50% how many of those are 32bit only capable cpus?

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I appreciate the explanation Jerry.
I really like what you guys have created and respect your goals.
Even if you are not competing or collaborating with other distros, I would still like to see LL adoption rates rise.  I think some of the "big" distros are a bit bloated and/or less than user friendly.  LL is such a great balance for making the transition.

Thank you.
 

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« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2017, 05:30:50 AM »
 

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Just wondering, why was originally Ubuntu instead of Debian chosen for the base of Linux Lite?

Always wondering the same thing, any information about this @Jerry  ?
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« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2017, 05:43:24 AM »
 

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Just wondering, why was originally Ubuntu instead of Debian chosen for the base of Linux Lite?

Always wondering the same thing, any information about this @Jerry  ?

Primarily it has an easier installer to use than the Debian installer for first time linux users. It was also what I have mostly used, so users benefit directly from my experience with it. There are a ton of other reasons, but those are 2 of the main ones.
 

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Out of that 50% how many of those are 32bit only capable cpus?

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Those with more knowledge than I might be able to crunch the databse  entries to answer that question..  If the result is that the majority have 64 bit processors, then I understand your reasoning.

However,  if  the result is that a high % of those on 32bit LL are stuck with 32 bit, then  the question is still valid ??


Is there a list of 32bit motherboards or cpus    for example minimum XP capable??

As an aside - I tried Point Linix  (https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=point ) last year and got it to run  ( with some sound card fiddling) on my old Toshiba A10.  However the forum help was non existent .    However it did show me that it was possible to have the 2003  Tosh perform as well as any current tablet ( except touch screen).    The feel of the XCFE  distro was similar to LL. i.e "familiar" enough for me ( a real novice) to get around.  It was also "fast" and the installer straight forward.    Sadly the distro has faded as  only one developer.
What is does demonstrate is that it can be done on debian.
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