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Re: Linux and feminism
« Reply #18 on: February 11, 2022, 03:02:46 AM »
 

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But, as you can see, there's a catch. Feminism borrows heavily from masculinity's patterns. To be able to start or continue a conversation with some individuals or parties, you must first acquire the language or specific codes of values that are common among those with whom you intend to have a disagreement. Feminism, then, is not the same as femininity. Feminism is a very masculine movement. I'd even go so far as to say that guys originated feminism. villa for sale in turkey
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Re: Linux and feminism
« Reply #17 on: March 31, 2021, 09:50:40 AM »
 

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https://www.latinforstudents.com/gender.html

https://www.fluentin3months.com/german-noun-genders/

Somebody long ago decided these things, and if there was a mythical woman dominated culture where all the scholars were women things might be different, but they would still be just as confusing in our written languages. German is a wonderful language to write in, Latin is like building a train and then making it move with the caboose, and while English is seemingly the most complex and unpredictable it simply sets a standard for modern scientific discourse that no other language can approach, largely because of a larger vocabulary that is ever changing with the progress of science, and an unprecedented adaptive praxis concerning grammatical constraints. Furthermore bias can be masked in the grammar of older languages, while English is perhaps the most forthright concerning expressions of hatred.

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Re: Linux and feminism
« Reply #16 on: March 30, 2021, 11:49:51 AM »
 

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Nice find!
They can sometimes be weird, but Penguins are so ko0L! ;)

On another somewhat related note, for some reason some languages like Russian, French, etc. felt the need somewhere in history to assign a female/male attribute to almost everything. Also, a lot (most?) every Russian male attributes are female in French and vice versa.

In french, a chair for example is female but a desk is male. (Why? erm... well... look a bird. *runs aways* )
An Operating system is male but an installation is female.
In english at least they came out with "it" and prevented the whole male/female fiasco. ;)

Bonus : A boat is male, an automobile is female, a plane is male and a vehicule is male.
French also has a bunch of accents on letter like ,,,etc.
English is easier. ;)

Spanish too uses genders to talk about male or female for most nouns. This is an interesting article on that topic https://k-international.com/blog/why-do-languages-have-gender/

Yeah, English a lot way easier than French or Spanish, not only because of that, but verbs conjugations are easier to learn since they don't have many of those, i.e. I do, you do, they do, he does, she does. In Spanish, yo hago, tu haces, ellos hacen, el hace, ella hace. In French, Je fais, tu fais, ils/elles font, il/elle fait. Spanish and French have 7 while English only 2. I had a hard time learning French verbs in the University, but English ones were easy enough.
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Re: Linux and feminism
« Reply #15 on: March 30, 2021, 11:35:00 AM »
 

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Re: Linux and feminism
« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2021, 11:17:21 AM »
 

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Nice find!
They can sometimes be weird, but Penguins are so ko0L! ;)

On another somewhat related note, for some reason some languages like Russian, French, etc. felt the need somewhere in history to assign a female/male attribute to almost everything. Also, a lot (most?) every Russian male attributes are female in French and vice versa.

In french, a chair for example is female but a desk is male. (Why? erm... well... look a bird. *runs aways* )
An Operating system is male but an installation is female.
In english at least they came out with "it" and prevented the whole male/female fiasco. ;)

Bonus : A boat is male, an automobile is female, a plane is male and a vehicule is male.
French also has a bunch of accents on letter like ,,,etc.
English is easier. ;)
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Re: Linux and feminism
« Reply #13 on: March 27, 2021, 01:34:46 PM »
 

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Is there any kind of popular association between Linux and feminism?

Facts from the Hatchery

1/The ratio of females to males is 3:2, making the females more competitive.
2/The egg is transferred to the male's pouch for 3 months whilst the females go out on the jollies eating/drinking/merrily have a swim about, with their mates to celebrate their newborn back home with dad.
3/When the chicks are 150 days old, they are ready to live on their own. They teethe all alone, screaming happily to themselves.
4/The chicks live at sea for four years, then climb out of the water, and a new Linux release occurs.

reference source
http://bioweb.uwlax.edu/bio203/s2007/magnuson_kath/Reproduction.htm

additional source
having to hear my middle sister trying (and failing), to convert me in to a feminist when I was younger.
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Re: Linux and feminism
« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2020, 04:59:52 PM »
 

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Re: Linux and feminism
« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2020, 08:52:53 AM »
 

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It could my etymology side coming from my mother but, I don't really like "feminism" as a word... I know males have been the "front" in many fields but I always prefered terms related to equality than ones "tipping" to one side.
I think of everyone as equal human beings.

It would be cool to have a main holiday just celebrating Humanity and the best of in human relations ;)

In fact I don't know why people are mean/stepping on someones head sometimes and don't like when someone thinks they are higher in "rank" than another human. I don't speak about the teacher/student or parent/kid ranks here, just human being "worth".
... Yeah, I can be naive sometimes and don't think before I say something I think funny at first and than feel really stupid when getting the reactions and/or looking back on it... I learned from a professional in recent years that I could be some part Asperger. I'll let you Google that! ;)

So, sorry for being stupid everyone. Feel free to slap me around with a large trout when needed.
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Re: Linux and feminism
« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2020, 04:30:39 AM »
 

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Oh well, maybe some males Linux users can simply "identify as" females and bring balance to the community.
 

Re: Linux and feminism
« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2020, 03:39:10 PM »
 

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The only Linux female I can think of is Nixie Pixel.

I have watched a few of her YouTube videos, but I find more "meaty" videos from others, mostly males. However, I have been a registered member of the Ubuntu Forums for at least 6 years -- and still am a member -- and know that a few well regarded members and forum moderators are female. Their advice and suggestions are every bit as valuable as those made by males.

Linux may be more used by males than females, but that doesn't make it have any gender attributes any more than cars have. It may be that human males simply enjoy solving technical problems generally more than human females do. Or maybe males prefer to not have inscrutible devices that we can't comprehend any more than we can comprehend human females.  ::)
 

Re: Linux and feminism
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2020, 12:29:54 PM »
 

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Re: Linux and feminism
« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2020, 10:30:08 PM »
 

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Not at all sure if you, @MS, are just having fun here or trying to cause a furor or just a thought topic. I am not convinced by your statements. Females can be very reliable, like Linux, but so can males. Both can also be extremely unreliable. Both can at times be obstinate. Both can also be very compliant. Neither gender has exclusive ownership of creativity, compassion, intellect, or depravity. Both genders also share numerous attributes.

I have never considered Linux as having or exhibiting any gender. Nor have I ever addressed any of my computers by either a male or female name, nor have I ever given any of them any name. How you consider Linux and/or your computer is your perogative.

For those of us who ignore the entire Linux/computer gender thinking, I offer the video below (if I can do this correctly). I suggest that viewers NOT be swallwing any liquid while watching.

 

Re: Linux and feminism
« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2020, 04:29:47 AM »
 

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There are certain associations, it's not a joke. Let's take LinuxChix as an example. It's a women-oriented community for Linux users.
An interesting read about Patricia Torvalds >>
Torvalds 2.0: Patricia Torvalds on computing, college, feminism, and increasing diversity in tech
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Re: Linux and feminism
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2019, 11:29:27 AM »
 

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@Sprintrdriver, I consider it more a thing of a mindset behind the scenes rather than anything associated with body or sexuality, assuming that Linux is a woman. Like, think of the gender philosophy. It is all about the mind being given priority over the bodily conditions, therefore, there is the notion of the sexual identity the mind has, rather than the body. Gender is about the sex of the mind influencing the sexual identity of a body in the aftermath, rather than thinking of a body as being the defining factor. Linux is a mind of a liberated woman, imposed upon social movement, focused upon software engineering.

But there is a hook, you see. Feminism, draws a lot from the patterns of masculinity. In order to be able to initiate or uptake a discussion with some people or parties, first you need to learn the language or certain codes of values popular among those with whom you would wish to have a dispute. Feminism, therefore, is not femininity. Feminism is quite masculine. I would even speculate feminism was invented by males.

The rich ruling elite, that is.

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So how does femininity relate to all this Linux feminism that I argue towards? In this case, the femininity - as an order of things - would be used as a tool against the patriarchal patterns dominating the field.

PS.

For instance, look at the logo of Apple. Is it not just the symbol referencing the judeochristian excuse for patriarchy, being the cornerstone of the Northern culture?

In this regard, what is Tux? Tux is an anti-symbol. It is a toy, a symbol that is meant to refer nothing.
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Re: Linux and feminism
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2019, 11:17:34 AM »
 

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So then what do you say when installed Linux ?
 I have her installed ?
 She's laid into my harddrive ?

I don't think that will sound too satisfying for a "she".
I won't let an old, but fully functional computer die just because some company tell me that they won't make no more security updates to their OS. Thanks Linux :)
 

 

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