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Re: Is Canonical tracking me through the DuckDuckGo search engine?
« Reply #15 on: March 15, 2015, 06:36:31 PM »
 

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Thanx unlimited for the tips in here .

But my bet would be to be Opt-Out of everything ( if possible )  , as with google also (n their are some stuff on that also . Another thing that I use is https everywhere from eff org .

I m also worried of being tracked by ubuntu , which is supposed to be free as you said .
Yeah maybe I meant opt-out, I'm not english. What I was trying to say, is, it should be OFF by default. I use HTTPS everywhere too.
 


Re: Is Canonical tracking me through the DuckDuckGo search engine?
« Reply #16 on: March 15, 2015, 06:38:36 PM »
 

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Thanx unlimited for the tips in here .

But my bet would be to be Opt-Out of everything ( if possible )  , as with google also (n their are some stuff on that also . Another thing that I use is https everywhere from eff org .

I m also worried of being tracked by ubuntu , which is supposed to be free as you said .
Yeah maybe I meant opt-out, I'm not english. What I was trying to say, is, it should be OFF by default. I use HTTPS everywhere too.

Hey cool , it s what I was thinking , just wanted to make sure .  By the way your english s pretty good to me , I m not english either , but I try my best .
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Re: Is Canonical tracking me through the DuckDuckGo search engine?
« Reply #17 on: March 15, 2015, 06:39:56 PM »
 

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Ok, have done some more testing ... and after a crash of my main user session  :o ... here are the results.

I followed the recommendation in the link posted by UNLIMITY (thanks!) and deleted the relevant entry in
/usr/lib/firefox/distribution/searchplugins/locale/<language>/duckduckgo.xml

After restarting the browser the "&t=canonical" part in the address is gone :)

Questions remain:
* At what stage and how is duckduckgo.xml getting this entry?
* Why are you not running into the same need to edit duckduckgo.xml?

How? DuckDuckGo is in partnership with Canonical or something.
(I don't understand the second question)
But if your DuckDuckGo search engine will get updated, the canonical entry will get back, MAYBE.
 

Re: Is Canonical tracking me through the DuckDuckGo search engine?
« Reply #18 on: March 15, 2015, 06:44:25 PM »
 

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Thanx unlimited for the tips in here .

But my bet would be to be Opt-Out of everything ( if possible )  , as with google also (n their are some stuff on that also . Another thing that I use is https everywhere from eff org .

I m also worried of being tracked by ubuntu , which is supposed to be free as you said .
Yeah maybe I meant opt-out, I'm not english. What I was trying to say, is, it should be OFF by default. I use HTTPS everywhere too.

Hey cool , it s what I was thinking , just wanted to make sure .  By the way your english s pretty good to me , I m not english either , but I try my best .
Ok, I will edit my post to correct it. Thanks. I wouldn't even tell you ain't english. But you know, the most understand thing is that you understand people, and they understand you.
 

Re: Is Canonical tracking me through the DuckDuckGo search engine?
« Reply #19 on: March 15, 2015, 06:44:47 PM »
 

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Last time I saw DDG had nothing to do with Canonical , unless it changed . We never know now .
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Re: Is Canonical tracking me through the DuckDuckGo search engine?
« Reply #20 on: March 15, 2015, 06:48:41 PM »
 

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Thanx unlimited for the tips in here .

But my bet would be to be Opt-Out of everything ( if possible )  , as with google also (n their are some stuff on that also . Another thing that I use is https everywhere from eff org .

I m also worried of being tracked by ubuntu , which is supposed to be free as you said .
Yeah maybe I meant opt-out, I'm not english. What I was trying to say, is, it should be OFF by default. I use HTTPS everywhere too.

Hey cool , it s what I was thinking , just wanted to make sure .  By the way your english s pretty good to me , I m not english either , but I try my best .
Ok, I will edit my post to correct it. Thanks. I wouldn't even tell you ain't english. But you know, the most understand thing is that you understand people, and they understand you.

Yes sir . we understand each other .

But that ddg thing with canonical s bugging me , it was supposedly a no track search engine , unless canonical sneeked somewhere . It will have to be checked out .
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Re: Is Canonical tracking me through the DuckDuckGo search engine?
« Reply #21 on: March 15, 2015, 06:49:31 PM »
 

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Last time I saw DDG had nothing to do with Canonical , unless it changed . We never know now .
&t=

Through partnerships with developers and companies, DuckDuckGo has been integrated into many applications. In these partnerships, a portion of DuckDuckGo's advertising revenue is sometimes shared back. To assign advertising revenue and collect anonymous aggregate usage information, developers add a unique "&t=" parameter to searches made through their applications.

(It's taken from the DDG website, so yeah they are partners now). I feel like Canonical is mainly after money now...

https://duck.co/help/privacy/t Read here.
Last Edit: March 15, 2015, 06:51:45 PM by UNLIMITY
 

Re: Is Canonical tracking me through the DuckDuckGo search engine?
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Last time I saw DDG had nothing to do with Canonical , unless it changed . We never know now .
&t=

Through partnerships with developers and companies, DuckDuckGo has been integrated into many applications. In these partnerships, a portion of DuckDuckGo's advertising revenue is sometimes shared back. To assign advertising revenue and collect anonymous aggregate usage information, developers add a unique "&t=" parameter to searches made through their applications.

(It's taken from the DDG website, so yeah they are partners now). I feel like Canonical is mainly after money now...

Thanx for the info , well , will have to maybe use Dogpile , LxQuick , PrivateLee , or Gigablast now I guess , thanx for pointing this out .
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Re: Is Canonical tracking me through the DuckDuckGo search engine?
« Reply #23 on: March 15, 2015, 06:59:15 PM »
 

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Last time I saw DDG had nothing to do with Canonical , unless it changed . We never know now .
&t=

Through partnerships with developers and companies, DuckDuckGo has been integrated into many applications. In these partnerships, a portion of DuckDuckGo's advertising revenue is sometimes shared back. To assign advertising revenue and collect anonymous aggregate usage information, developers add a unique "&t=" parameter to searches made through their applications.

(It's taken from the DDG website, so yeah they are partners now). I feel like Canonical is mainly after money now...

Thanx for the info , well , will have to maybe use Dogpile , LxQuick , PrivateLee , or Gigablast now I guess , thanx for pointing this out .
You can remove the canonical from search engine, or just search through their website. I used ixquick.com before. Or you can use startpage.com (for google searches, but I don't want to have anything with google,so). I trust ixquick more than DDG though. But I like DDG's video recommendations, recipes, and all...
 

Re: Is Canonical tracking me through the DuckDuckGo search engine?
« Reply #24 on: March 15, 2015, 07:26:08 PM »
 

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The second question was @altman, how he got rid of it without editing the file.

Yep, am aware of the risk of an update. Will check from time to time.

Thanks for your help! :)
 

Re: Is Canonical tracking me through the DuckDuckGo search engine?
« Reply #25 on: March 15, 2015, 07:51:42 PM »
 

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The thing is that I never seen t-canonical search results on my ddg searches .

Might have to do with xul removed I guess ,

I tried to check for ddg s search results to see from the op s link above & never saw this t-can results , I think it has to do with my ff prefs  settings , don t know .

But as I saw ddg has links with canonicals , so I lokok elsewhere . ( another search engine . )
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Re: Is Canonical tracking me through the DuckDuckGo search engine?
« Reply #26 on: March 15, 2015, 10:47:53 PM »
 

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The thing is that I never seen t-canonical search results on my ddg searches .

Might have to do with xul removed I guess ,

I tried to check for ddg s search results to see from the op s link above & never saw this t-can results , I think it has to do with my ff prefs  settings , don t know .

But as I saw ddg has links with canonicals , so I lokok elsewhere . ( another search engine . )
I removed xul package before I even written this thread, and had this t-canonical stuff. Maybe you removed the package before you started Firefox? It's only the search engine modified, so if you say you don't get t-canonical from search engine, the xul could be what modifies the search engine.

I hope you are aware I am talking about search engine, from the bar. PREFERENCES > SEARCH > DEFAULT SEARCH ENGINE.
I don't understand why they have to squeeze such a bullcrap there? They have a default website in Firefox, for google search I think, which brings them money, thanks to Ubuntu Firefox Modifications (that xul package). Now they are in DuckDuckGo engine. Even online searches are enabled by default on Ubuntu, which are used for ads too. They also accept donations. If people want to give them money, they will. Why do I have to search the internet for information to be able to stop their tracking? I don't care it says it's anonymous, the truth is, you never know how anonymous, and if they even say the truth. And like I said, I'm using Linux Lite, not Ubuntu. I know Linux Lite is based on Ubuntu, but whatever. GNU is free (both as in price and freedom). if I will ever use Ubuntu, then I could leave the t-canonical in DDG. But It's not very right what they do. GNU/Linux distributions approved by Free Software Foundations would never do that, if they did, they would be removed. They even pointed out why they don't recommend Ubuntu, one of the points were the "online searches" spying.

I'm trying to support Free Software Foundation, and I prefer 100% free distros, but I'm glad there are distros like Linux Lite, because my laptop, precisely my graphics card doesn't work right without kernel blobs. I couldn't even get full resolution. But I heard Intel GPUs works great without blobs.

One of the reasons why I switched from Windows to GNU/Linux, was the spying on it, and now I'm getting it from Canonical. -.- Not as bad as Microsoft, but still. And I got tired of Microsoft's crap anyway + why should I pay for Windows when there are free better alternatives? I also heard they tried to destroy Free Software movement (The Halloween documents). But who knows if that documents are legit. But It's pretty cheap from them to do that. Funny they are copying features from both OSX and GNU/Linux. Maybe GNU/Linux is much harder to use than Windows, but I still love it, It's better, much better. And Linux Lite is probably most easier to use GNU/Linux distro I tried. I tried many distros. Even with Ubuntu and Linux Mint, I had to search the internet on how to set up Samba shares. But with Linux Lite, it was easy and fast + they provide very simple documentation for that.
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Re: Is Canonical tracking me through the DuckDuckGo search engine?
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The thing is that I never seen t-canonical search results on my ddg searches .

Might have to do with xul removed I guess ,

I tried to check for ddg s search results to see from the op s link above & never saw this t-can results , I think it has to do with my ff prefs  settings , don t know .

But as I saw ddg has links with canonicals , so I lokok elsewhere . ( another search engine . )
I removed xul package before I even written this thread, and had this t-canonical stuff. Maybe you removed the package before you started Firefox? It's only the search engine modified, so if you say you don't get t-canonical from search engine, the xul could be what modifies the search engine.

I hope you are aware I am talking about search engine, from the bar. PREFERENCES > SEARCH > DEFAULT SEARCH ENGINE.
I don't understand why they have to squeeze such a bullcrap there? They have a default website in Firefox, for google search I think, which brings them money, thanks to Ubuntu Firefox Modifications (that xul package). Now they are in DuckDuckGo engine. Even online searches are enabled by default on Ubuntu, which are used for ads too. They also accept donations. If people want to give them money, they will. Why do I have to search the internet for information to be able to stop their tracking? I don't care it says it's anonymous, the truth is, you never know how anonymous, and if they even say the truth. And like I said, I'm using Linux Lite, not Ubuntu. I know Linux Lite is based on Ubuntu, but whatever. GNU is free (both as in price and freedom). if I will ever use Ubuntu, then I could leave the t-canonical in DDG. But It's not very right what they do. GNU/Linux distributions approved by Free Software Foundations would never do that, if they did, they would be removed. They even pointed out why they don't recommend Ubuntu, one of the points were the "online searches" spying.

I'm trying to support Free Software Foundation, and I prefer 100% free distros, but I'm glad there are distros like Linux Lite, because my laptop, precisely my graphics card doesn't work right without kernel blobs. I couldn't even get full resolution. But I heard Intel GPUs works great without blobs.

yes sir , this Pref s search engine , heard or had read that it s not recommended to search from this search engine , could not find it real quick . I use it as a Home search engine instead of say google or whatever their is .

I use ddg as a default search engine as my default starting page also . It might be because of that .
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Re: Is Canonical tracking me through the DuckDuckGo search engine?
« Reply #28 on: March 15, 2015, 11:01:35 PM »
 

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The thing is that I never seen t-canonical search results on my ddg searches .

Might have to do with xul removed I guess ,

I tried to check for ddg s search results to see from the op s link above & never saw this t-can results , I think it has to do with my ff prefs  settings , don t know .

But as I saw ddg has links with canonicals , so I lokok elsewhere . ( another search engine . )
I removed xul package before I even written this thread, and had this t-canonical stuff. Maybe you removed the package before you started Firefox? It's only the search engine modified, so if you say you don't get t-canonical from search engine, the xul could be what modifies the search engine.

I hope you are aware I am talking about search engine, from the bar. PREFERENCES > SEARCH > DEFAULT SEARCH ENGINE.
I don't understand why they have to squeeze such a bullcrap there? They have a default website in Firefox, for google search I think, which brings them money, thanks to Ubuntu Firefox Modifications (that xul package). Now they are in DuckDuckGo engine. Even online searches are enabled by default on Ubuntu, which are used for ads too. They also accept donations. If people want to give them money, they will. Why do I have to search the internet for information to be able to stop their tracking? I don't care it says it's anonymous, the truth is, you never know how anonymous, and if they even say the truth. And like I said, I'm using Linux Lite, not Ubuntu. I know Linux Lite is based on Ubuntu, but whatever. GNU is free (both as in price and freedom). if I will ever use Ubuntu, then I could leave the t-canonical in DDG. But It's not very right what they do. GNU/Linux distributions approved by Free Software Foundations would never do that, if they did, they would be removed. They even pointed out why they don't recommend Ubuntu, one of the points were the "online searches" spying.

I'm trying to support Free Software Foundation, and I prefer 100% free distros, but I'm glad there are distros like Linux Lite, because my laptop, precisely my graphics card doesn't work right without kernel blobs. I couldn't even get full resolution. But I heard Intel GPUs works great without blobs.

yes sir , this Pref s search engine , heard or had read that it s not recommended to search from this search engine , could not find it real quick . I use it as a Home search engine instead of say google or whatever their is .

I use ddg as a default search engine as my default starting page also . It might be because of that .
Yeah, it doesn't happen if you search on their website.
Anyway, I added some stuff to my previous post, so read the rest. xD
 

Re: Is Canonical tracking me through the DuckDuckGo search engine?
« Reply #29 on: March 15, 2015, 11:11:49 PM »
 

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Guess I would have a look at this link , might look a little bit paranoid , but it s some interesting readings : https://prism-break.org/en/categories/gnu-linux/

Will reread your post fella .
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