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Re: Intel Atom Clover Trail CPUs - Time to come over to Linux Lite
« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2017, 04:36:06 PM »
 

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In bullet points... ;)
- I'm not a programmer and I was able to "crack" Windows 95/98 by myself, show how secure that was.
- I used Windows 2000 afterwards keeping it all trought Millenium, XP and Vista, not a "users" OS though.
- Windows 7 was the first and last time I was not "ashamed" to use or recommend Windows. Until the Windows Updates fiascos.
- I would not touch 8 or 8.1 with a long, dirty, rusty pole.
- Windows 9? Wut? Where?
- Windows 10 fixed some stuff but added a bunch of "call home"/"telemetry"/"sharing" or whatever you wanna call them and broke Windows Updates even more. So not even with a LONGER, dirty, rusty pole there.

So, thanks to Windows 10, I am now a proud Linux Lite user.

I don't know where MS is going, but yeah marketing dept. driven and no long term like mentioned is not for me.
Companies I deal with are all in the "cloud" hype. Until we tell them about sensitive data on out of country servers, backups, no/slow internet could halt productivity, etc. If you can live with just an cell phone, I guess you're ok with cloud.

PS: Just so you know, the last Windows 10 "Creators" update removed the Control Panel from the start menu altogether, you know, because I guess NOBODY uses it. You now have to "search" for it...say whaaat!

Last minute : Have to confirm on another installation but it seems "Command Line" was removed too, replaced by PowerShell. Arg!


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Re: Intel Atom Clover Trail CPUs - Time to come over to Linux Lite
« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2017, 05:04:37 PM »
 

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Quote from: smhardesty link=topic=4439.msg34660#msg34660
The vast majority of 'average' users couldn't even begin to do a fresh install on their own PCs. So when support ends too quickly for them they are going to be MUCH more likely to embrace cloud computing. After all, no more hardware/driver issues. No more virus or malware issues. No more high dollar repair bills when they trash their own PCs.

Am I the only guy that thinks this way? Have I become to cynical? Or is there at least an inkling of real possibility in this?
You're not the only one. I don't dislike everything about "the cloud and cloud computing", though I do think a lot of it is being oversold and overhyped. As another layer of backing up some data, sure. Online updates, sure as long as it does not override user control and so on. And things like chromebooks have improved. But for me there will always be circumstances where a user needs to be able to do things locally and offline.

 
 

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« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2017, 03:07:38 PM »
 

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Does anyone besides me think that the shortened support periods and dependency on hardware manufacturers are actually grooming us for total cloud based computing? The 'average' computer user buys whatever the local big box store has on the shelf, with whatever version of Windows shipped with it. The vast majority of 'average' users couldn't even begin to do a fresh install on their own PCs. So when support ends too quickly for them they are going to be MUCH more likely to embrace cloud computing. After all, no more hardware/driver issues. No more virus or malware issues. No more high dollar repair bills when they trash their own PCs.

Am I the only guy that thinks this way? Have I become to cynical? Or is there at least an inkling of real possibility in this?
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Re: Intel Atom Clover Trail CPUs - Time to come over to Linux Lite
« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2017, 02:36:38 PM »
 

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Microsoft has stated that with each version of windows 10 you only get 18 months of support. So the original Windows 10 is now out of support. Also, with each version of Windows 10 you only get support for as long as your computer manufacturer makes drivers. I see a lot of this happening in the months to come. Stay tuned!

IMO MS lost most of it's marbles sometime around win8 and never got it back. No surprise I guess since from what I've seen MS laid off their competent tech people and thought the marketing dept alone can replace it. 
 

Re: Intel Atom Clover Trail CPUs - Time to come over to Linux Lite
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2017, 03:03:48 PM »
 

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Re: Intel Atom Clover Trail CPUs - Time to come over to Linux Lite
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2017, 07:31:34 AM »
 

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Rather than give a broad sweeping statement, it would be better to advise people to look at the Linux Lite hardware database, or ask the community, to see if any member has experienced the exact same specs on a machine, or knows anything additional needed is possible.
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Re: Intel Atom Clover Trail CPUs - Time to come over to Linux Lite
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2017, 05:34:41 AM »
 

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So, taking the above case, are we saying LL would work out of the box??  If so how could we start publicising this to people caught in the trap.?
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Re: Intel Atom Clover Trail CPUs - Time to come over to Linux Lite
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Microsoft has stated that with each version of windows 10 you only get 18 months of support. So the original Windows 10 is now out of support. Also, with each version of Windows 10 you only get support for as long as your computer manufacturer makes drivers. I see a lot of this happening in the months to come. Stay tuned!
 

Intel Atom Clover Trail CPUs - Time to come over to Linux Lite
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« Last Edit: July 20, 2017, 03:19:32 PM by newtusmaximus »
2006 - HP DC7700p ultraslim Desktop Intel 6300 cpu  4GB Ram LL3.8 64bit.
2007 - Fujitsu Siemens V3405 Laptop  2 GB Ram LL3.6 32bit. Now 32bit Debian 9 + nonfree.
2006 - Fujitsu Siemens Si1520 Laptop Intel T720 cpu 3GB Ram   LL5.6 64 Bit
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2003 - RETIRED Toshiba Satellite Pro A10 1 GB RAM LL2.8 32bit
 

 

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