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Hi Mike,

EFI was an Intel initiative linked to the appearance of the GUID partitioning scheme. Almost all Linux systems today that use grub can boot from GUID partitions, so it's essentially a dead issue for security concerns as long as you run Linux. Microsoft was actually well behind and not ahead of the curve here as is almost always the case with them, but once involved they of course deployed their own little info gathering quirks to OEM EFI implementations that often irritate the Linux community in general. 

"With the release of Windows 8 in October 2012, Microsoft's certification requirements now require that computers include firmware that implements the UEFI specification. Furthermore, if the computer supports the "Connected Standby" feature of Windows 8 (which allows devices to have power management comparable to smartphones, with an almost instantaneous return from standby mode), then the firmware is not permitted to contain a Compatibility Support Module (CSM). As such, systems that support Connected Standby are incapable of booting Legacy BIOS operating systems." (The caveat here is of course that any Linux with grub can boot from GUID partitions and could since 2000 if the code exists for the processor initialization)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_Extensible_Firmware_Interface

To answer your question, if the new computers are using Intel family processors and come with Ubuntu they will certainly be using UEFI. The MBR partitioning scheme is over 40 years old now.

PS: Also the reason the OEM Linux machines from Dell cost more is because MS machines are produced via a corporate partnership that shares costs. In this case free Ubuntu shares no manufacturing expenses with Dell.

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Some manufacturers (e.g. Dell & some others) make  computers for the Linux market.  These manufacturers appear to be few and far between and their products tend to cost significantly more than the majority of  machines which are mostly made for the Windows OS market.

Are modern computers, which are sold as "Linux computers",  merely  Windows OS machines with Linux installed on them, with the token penguin sticker applied to the Windows key?

Or are they built differently, being configured specifically for Linux operating systems?
Are any of them  BIOS-only machines, or have they fully embraced Microsoft's obsession with putting UEFI on all new machines?

Interested to hear your replies...

Cheers
Mike

64bit OS (32-bit on Samsung netbook) installed in Legacy mode on MBR-formatted SSDs (except pi which uses a micro SDHC card):
2017 - Raspberry pi 3B (4cores) ~ [email protected] - LibreElec, used for upgrading our Samsung TV (excellent for the task)  
2012 - Lenovo G580 2689 (2cores; 4threads] ~ [email protected] - LL3.8/Win8.1 dual-boot (LL working smoothly)
2011 - Samsung NP-N145 Plus (1core; 2threads) ~ Intel Atom [email protected] - LL 3.8 32-bit (64-bit too 'laggy')
2008 - Asus X71Q (2cores) ~ Intel [email protected] - LL4.6/Win8.1 dual-boot, LL works fine with kernel 4.15
2007 - Dell Latitude D630 (2cores) ~ Intel [email protected] - LL4.6, works well with kernel 4.4; 4.15 doesn't work
 

 

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