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Re: I have new computer but can't get online
« Reply #17 on: January 19, 2016, 12:03:50 PM »
 

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Many Thanks Rob
I have saved files and note of command to run files in terminal.

Saved on Dropbox.

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Re: I have new computer but can't get online
« Reply #16 on: January 19, 2016, 12:07:00 AM »
 

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Hello!

Thanks you very much. Now I can play and see how fast computer & LL is.
So what were the two file s what did they do to Nic onboard card?

What you did was to install an updated kernel version, one that includes drivers for the NIC you were having issues with. With an exception here and there, most device drivers are included inside the kernel. That's one reason kernels are rather large in size.

Was one a files a driver and other telling Nic to use this new driver?

No, it's more complicated than just that. The kernel handles so much more than just networking. It handles all the other drivers your PC needs, for starters.

Windows is also built around a kernel. People just don't mention it a lot, that's all. Many device drivers are not a part of the Windows kernel, which is why you seem to need someone else's driver for almost every device you install under Windows.

Will I have do this each time I load new version of LL 2.6 ?

For that particular PC, yes, so it'd be a good idea to keep those files handy.

You may also experience this in other Linux flavors you check out. Some flavors of Linux use the stock Ubuntu kernels. Others, such as LL, create their own unique ones.

What the kernel is, how it works, and its importance is good knowledge to pick up for ANYONE who uses Linux regularly, because if something were to happen to mess those files up, it could render your system unbootable...

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Re: I have new computer but can't get online
« Reply #15 on: January 08, 2016, 06:41:55 AM »
 

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Thanks you very much. Now I can play and see how fast computer & LL is.
So what were the two file s what did they do to Nic onboard card?

Was one a files a driver and other telling Nic to use this new driver?
Will I have do this each time I load new version of LL 2.6 ?

Thanks again.


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Re: I have new computer but can't get online
« Reply #14 on: January 08, 2016, 05:55:31 AM »
 

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Don't attempt doing this from any video found on youtube.
These are customized kernels made by Jerry specifically for LL, so you can't just pick a generic one (from Ubuntu for instance).


I wanted to know what a kernel is and does, I got to try a bit.
But many thanks both, I planed tonight was to borrow a NIC card from a mate, now looking at Jerry post will using a USB.
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Re: I have new computer but can't get online
« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2016, 08:23:15 PM »
 

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The repository is here - http://repo.linuxliteos.com/linuxlite/pool/main/l/lite-kernel/ just make sure you get a matching set eg. 64bit - linux-headers-linuxlite-4.2.0_0010_amd64.deb and linux-image-linuxlite-4.2.0_0010_amd64.deb or 32bit linux-headers-linuxlite-4.2.0_0010_i386.deb and linux-image-linuxlite-4.2.0_0010_i386.deb Download a pair from an internet connected computer, save to usb, then copy the files to your home folder on LL. Then open a terminal and do:

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Re: I have new computer but can't get online
« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2016, 08:08:20 PM »
 

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I will try myself first I look at youtube on install new kernel and post.
Best to have a go myself first.

Don't attempt doing this from any video found on youtube.

These are customized kernels made by Jerry specifically for LL, so you can't just pick a generic one (from Ubuntu for instance).

I've looked for a way to download the kernel, but can't see a way to do it.  I had thought that you could the download the packages to a usb stick similarly to the way you can download Ubuntu packages here:  http://packages.ubuntu.com/.  But that doesn't appear to be the case.

I'll PM Jerry and see if he has a way to do this.  He or I will post back with answer whether or not this is going to be possible.

In the meantime, if you know anyone who has a usb wifi dongle that you could borrow that would be the easiest thing to do.  Connect new LL install to Internet with that, install initial updates, then install new kernel with this command:
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sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install linux-headers-linuxlite-4.3.0 linux-image-linuxlite-4.3.0 -y
Reboot computer after doing the kernel update and hopefully your NIC will work.
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Re: I have new computer but can't get online
« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2016, 02:03:02 PM »
 

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Hi,

Yes read up on kernel and what it does....
Some YouTube Videos will just show generic kernel installs

But you need to use the Linux Lite Version.
https://www.linuxliteos.com/forums/installing-software/linux-lite-kernel/75/


Not sure how though without connection,
unless you happen to have a spare USB-WiFi dongle.


I think you will need to wait for gold_finger on how to download on a another PC to a USB stick


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Re: I have new computer but can't get online
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2016, 01:31:14 PM »
 

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Thanks Gold Finger.
I will try myself first I look at youtube on install new kernel and post.
Best to have a go myself first.

ta
But first thing first I must google what a  kernel is and does  :D

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Re: I have new computer but can't get online
« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2016, 01:09:10 PM »
 

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Found a post on Mint forum about same Intel Nic.  Looks like if you install a newer kernel the problem will be solved.  Look for Jerry's post about new kernels and how to install one and try that before buying a new card.


Here's the Mint post for reference:  http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=150&t=212165




P.s.  If you've got a usb wifi stick you can connect that way and do the kernel upgrade.  Otherwise you'll need to download needed packages to a usb stick and install that way.  No time to explain how to do that now, but will try revisiting this later today to give better instructions if noone else jumps in to explain.
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Re: I have new computer but can't get online
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2016, 11:53:58 AM »
 

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 :(
Lights Orange with Green light above, from Bios Link status is Connected PCH LAN controller is enabled.
it's all eenabled.

Did look for a drive for NIC Linux.  Did think I have pick a certain mother board with Nic.
So am I going to have buy a Nic card?


Thanks

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Re: I have new computer but can't get online
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2016, 09:57:13 AM »
 

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Yes it's plugged in :D using old computer to post, did wound if was a cable problem but not.
from memory yesterday was Orange. will look at bios again.

Will look thanks.
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Re: I have new computer but can't get online
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2016, 08:48:52 AM »
 

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Hi,

Is it actually plugged into your router/network.??
That looks like it is not initialised..??
If yes, are there any lights.?? Green/Yellow/Orange

The device id shown by inxi points to this Kernel information which shows it's supported

I doubt it, but you never know...
Check the BIOS to make sure it's enabled, normally it should be.
Look in the motherboard/BIOS manual for any options for enabling/disabling.
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Re: I have new computer but can't get online
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inxi -n
Network:   Card: Intel Device 15b8
           IF: N/A state: N/A speed: N/A duplex: N/A mac: N/A
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Re: I have new computer but can't get online
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2016, 06:39:18 PM »
 

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Try and get one of those cheap usb network cards. like something like this.
http://images.highspeedbackbone.net/skuimages/large/CNET-SGY-300630661.jpg

as a backup they are cheap and always useful for these kind of scenarios.

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Re: I have new computer but can't get online
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2016, 01:46:24 PM »
 

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@Dyslexic1

Looking at that link, It is quite an up-to-date spec, it's already got an on board Intel NIC.
You should be able to just connect it to your broadband router with LAN/Network Cable.
I have just done a NUC build for a friend, that was very new H/W,
and needed kernel 4.2 to get rid of some CPU errors.

Do the inxi command Jerry requested.

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