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Remotely control an LL machine from Windows 10 on LAN
« on: June 18, 2021, 06:46:31 AM »
 

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Hi everyone,
 
I'm sure this subject has been debated many times, here and elsewhere, but I need an easy, step-by-step procedure to implement it: I have installed LL (latest stable) on a Lenovo laptop, to act as file server.

Namely, I want to be able to access the content of the non-Linux part of the SSD (where a copy of Windows 10 is installed) and both USB hard drives connected to the Lenovo from another laptop, an HP, running Windows 10 from another room of the house.
 
I've heard of Remina and SSH and all that, but it's pretty obscure to me, especially considering that I'm used to Windows's Remote Desktop Protocol where everything is pretty straightforward.
 
So my question is, how can I remote-control my LL PC from a Windows 10 laptop the way I can using MS RDP? Which client and server should I use on both machines?
 


Re: Remotely control an LL machine from Windows 10 on LAN
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2021, 07:19:10 AM »
 

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Install Remmina from Lite Software to use RDP. It's really quite simple.

 

Re: Remotely control an LL machine from Windows 10 on LAN
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2021, 09:52:27 AM »
 

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Thanks for the quick reply, J! I'm not trying to access my W10 PC from LL, though; I'm trying to do the opposite: the LL PC will remain on most of the time and act as a file server because I installed LL on an aging Lenovo laptop with plenty of USB ports, whereas my shiny new HP laptop only offers 2 (USB A).

I'll plug the external HDD and SSD onto the Lenovo running LL and connect to it from the HP via RDP (or SSH if I have to, with MobaXTerm maybe).

Seems to me that Remmina is an RDP client for accessing remote Windows PCs, not a server program. Maybe I'm missing something here, though.
 

Re: Remotely control an LL machine from Windows 10 on LAN
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2021, 11:43:51 AM »
 

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To access a LL from Windows - you're looking for VNC...
I have this set up for a headless LL system, I'm running my printer through but use vnc to access remotely for updates etc...


On Windows I use UltraVNC Viewer...

On LL I installed/set up as per the Help... https://www.linuxliteos.com/manual/network.html?q=vnc&x=0&y=0&per_page=7&matchtype=0#vnc




You can use SSH too if you like; for CLI interface, not graphical like VNC...
I too use this - Can install Putty or can use Powershell to connect... If anything, openssh-server may need to be installed... If so,
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sudo apt install openssh-server


Then in putty enter hostname or ip of LL box and log in when prompted...
In Powershell... enter:   
Code: [Select]
ssh [email protected]/ip   
then you will be prompted for password


If not connecting check firewalls (both Win/LL) or turn both off to confirm and open as needed...
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« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2021, 11:58:58 AM »
 

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Thanks so much for the explanation! I'm used to VNC and, lately, Veyon which, if I'm not mistaken, is loosely based on VNC, but I've only used both in a Windows-on-Windows configuration, never with Linux thrown in the mix. I'm going to try what you suggest and I'll make sure to let you how it goes.  :045:
 

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Thanks so much for the explanation! I'm used to VNC and, lately, Veyon which, if I'm not mistaken, is loosely based on VNC, but I've only used both in a Windows-on-Windows configuration, never with Linux thrown in the mix. I'm going to try what you suggest and I'll make sure to let you how it goes.  :045:

Any VNC viewer "should" work... Following the LL manual works like a charm - I followed it after messing with another vncserver that didn't work right off
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Re: Remotely control an LL machine from Windows 10 on LAN
« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2021, 08:09:05 AM »
 

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Easiest is to install the Xrdp server to Linux Lite and then use the RDP client from your Windows computer to connect. The subject is well covered on the Internet.

Also if you want to use an SSH tunnel for security just type SSH in your Windows power shell to see if SSH is available on your system and install open SSH server to your LL system. The subject is also well covered on the Internet.

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Personally I use an Xming server on Windows and use SSH X11 forwarding as I rarely need access to anything more than a few applications (full remote desktop is basically unnecessary) a method that requires only an SSH connection to work with Linux on Windows.
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« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2021, 11:10:59 AM »
 

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I haven't found a totally satisfying solution yet, despite all your good advice, guys. I've tried SSH-ing with MobaXTerm and it works alright except I still don't know how to share the USB (and internal) drives with my Windows PC over the LAN.
 
When I right-click on the drive icons, I can't find an option to share their content, the way you do in Windows, and that's basically what I'm trying to achieve ultimately; remotely controlling LL from my Windows PC would be the icing on the cake, for sure, because it would allow me to, say, update LL when I have to without actually sitting in front of the LL PC, but push come to shove, all I have to do is get up and walk to the other room.

Accessing the content of the drives on the LL PC is the crux here, and I haven't yet found a way to do that.

I have installed and enabled xrdp and ssh-server via Terminal, I've also given NoMachines a try (worked yesterday, won't give me the time of day today, go figure), but nothing makes it as easy as firing up the old RDP on my HP and accessing the Lenovo if I have to.

To summarize, I'm trying to a) access the drives on the LL PC; and b) remotely-control the LL PC, all in one fell swoop. Can that be done, and if yes, how?
Last Edit: June 19, 2021, 11:13:17 AM by UglyStuff
 

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If you want the gui remote option another option is TeamViewer - you can find it in Lite Software and download on Windows...

As for file sharing...
See the Manual - https://www.linuxliteos.com/manual/network.html#shares

Once you have shares set up; Windows will see those and you can map in Windows... You can share similarly from Windows to LL and mount that path...
- to access the share you can do without SSH/VNC/RDP....

You can set this up over SSH too; instead of "opening as admin" or using leaf/mouse pad... use sudo and either vi or nano...


But if you want to access those "locally" via remote ssh/vnc/rdp to the LL and 'cd' to it....

I use VNC to update or view print jobs... but also ssh too
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Re: Remotely control an LL machine from Windows 10 on LAN
« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2021, 05:03:20 PM »
 

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https://linuxize.com/post/how-to-install-xrdp-on-ubuntu-20-04/

Should work fine. Don't forget the firewall(s) both of them and the ssl cert for xrdp and just use your Windows RDP client to connect.

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Last Edit: June 19, 2021, 05:16:03 PM by trinidad
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