UEFI Build Test

[Jerry]

Thank you firenice03, it's great to know this build installs with both Secure Boot and UEFI enabled.

[m654321]

Anyone wanting to use a as is where is test build of Linux Lite 3.2 with UEFI support can get it here for a limited time - http://repo.linuxliteos.com/uefitests/3.2/

I downloaded this uefi version of LL3.2 and attempted the dual-boot with win10 on my UEFI computer (setup1 in sig). The install stopped at the stage of the grub2 package with the following message coming up on the screen:

"The 'grub-efi-amd64-signed' package failed to install into /target/. Without the GRUB bootloader, the installed system will not boot".

When I re boot it goes straight into win10, with no grubscreen, as expected from the message.
Any ideas? I did follow the Linux Mint tutorial (that Jerry posted for the LL/Win dual-boot) to the letter - I have repeated the process 3 times with the same result each time.  When installing, secure boot is disabled and CSM enabled.  Can't see what I'm doing wrong - any help/advice much appreciated...

Cheers
Mike

[firenice03]

I ran into a Grub error while testing - majority of the time it was due to internet connection loss. On my Kangaroo its wifi only but the default driver would disconnect, I since run a usb hardwire ethernet port with no issues.

Another thing to be aware of disable Fast Boot in Win10 (its in the control panel settings).

*Update Link to disable *
http://www.howtogeek.com/243901/the-pros-and-cons-of-windows-10s-fast-startup-mode/

[m654321]

I ran into a Grub error while testing - majority of the time it was due to internet connection loss. On my Kangaroo its wifi only but the default driver would disconnect, I since run a usb hardwire ethernet port with no issues.

Another thing to be aware of disable Fast Boot in Win10 (its in the control panel settings).

*Update Link to disable *
http://www.howtogeek.com/243901/the-pros-and-cons-of-windows-10s-fast-startup-mode/

Many thanks for your reply firenice03.
When I installed linux-lite-3.2-uefitest1a-64bit.iso, there was no problem with WiFi - I checked and repeated the installation using a wired connection to the router (your kind suggestion) but it made no difference.  As I'm installing in CSM mode (Legacy), fast boot appears to be disabled by default, so unfortunately it's not that one either. 

Much as I would wish otherwise, I still need to have a linux dual-boot with Windows OS, as I'm unable to do everything I want to do in linux.  One example is playing my recorded videos/TV programmes on my laptop through our Samsung TV, so that all the family can comfortably view them together on a large enough screen.  With Windows OS this is a straightforward plug-and-play setup, Windows OS instantly recognising the external monitor and setting the picture resolution to optimum quality and full screen size, the sound playing through the TV. I've wasted a lot of time messing around with this in Linux Lite (as well as with Linux MInt and Ubuntu Studio ) - that's not a complaint just the reality of my inexperience - but without success. In a linux-only system (at least with the three distros I've just mentioned),  the laptop screenview doesn't fit the TV display and the sound plays only through the laptop.  I'm sure there is a way to do this in linux but I don't have the knowledge or any more time to fiddle with this at the present time, due to work and family commitments.

So, somewhat disappointingly and with much regret,  I've had to change from Linux Lite 3.2 to Linux Mint 18 (cinnamon) on my main laptop (i.e. setup1 in sig), in order to set up a Win10/LM18 dual-boot on my UEFI laptop.  I have to say installation of LM for the UEFI dual-boot was straightforward and subsequent operation appears to be very smooth, either with or without secure boot enabled. I didn't experience the problem I reported in post #106 with installing  linux-lite-3.2-uefitest1a-64bit in a UEFI  dual-boot with Win10.  So it would appear that the problem lies with linux-lite-3.2-uefitest1a-64bit compatibility with the laptop mentioned. 

Again, thanks firenice03 for your interest - much appreciated.
Any more thoughts - just keep them coming...

Regards
Mike

[bitsnpcs]

Hello,
have you tried adding the files into Kodi and send to the tv ?

[m654321]

Hello,
have you tried adding the files into Kodi and send to the tv ?

No, I haven't.  Does it have a range of options for external displays (in this case a Samsung TV)? I've never used Kodi - how does it work?

Mike

[bitsnpcs]

Hello Mike,

These are  the settings for display

Kodi should be full screen automatically on a tv.

Regarding Samsung, my cousin uses a Samsung smart tv, he has Kodi on his mobile phone, he connects the phone to his home wifi, then casts the screen directly to the smart tv, it plays full screen HD movies.

[m654321]

Hello Mike,

These are  the settings for display

Kodi should be full screen automatically on a tv.

Regarding Samsung, my cousin uses a Samsung smart tv, he has Kodi on his mobile phone, he connects the phone to his home wifi, then casts the screen directly to the smart tv, it plays full screen HD movies.

Many thanks for your ideas - I'll give them a try - I did eventually get LL to play videos through my Samsung TV this morning using VLC - I might post a hot-tip on this a bit later...
Thanks again bitsnpcs

Mike

[bitsnpcs]

You're welcome Mike 
I look forward to the hot tip on VLC it sounds good.

[firenice03]

@m654321
Mike.. Which partition are you putting the boot installer?
In the "Something else" its the lower portion of the screen you pick where the bootloader/grub is to go..

I believe it needs to go into a GPT UEFI formatted partition; if I recall a few hundred mb in size... or in the same where windows is located..
I can try to check mine, but it may be a few...
 

[m654321]

@m654321
Mike.. Which partition are you putting the boot installer?
In the "Something else" its the lower portion of the screen you pick where the bootloader/grub is to go..

I believe it needs to go into a GPT UEFI formatted partition; if I recall a few hundred mb in size... or in the same where windows is located..
I can try to check mine, but it may be a few...
 

Many thanks for your reply, firenice03. Yes... I take your point, though in 'Something Else' I had already installed the LL bootloader to /dev/sda2 where the Windows EFI partition was (rather than /dev/sda as used in the Legacy install) - I think this was the correct thing to do?  Yes, GPT disk used to allow UEFI/Secure boot install.   Though I appear unable to dualboot LL3.2 UEFItestbuild with Win10, I am able to dualboot Linux Mint 18 with Win10 with UEFI/Secure boot enabled.

[firenice03]

Many thanks for your reply, firenice03. Yes... I take your point, though in 'Something Else' I had already installed the LL bootloader to /dev/sda2 where the Windows EFI partition was (rather than /dev/sda as used in the Legacy install) - I think this was the correct thing to do?  Yes, GPT disk used to allow UEFI/Secure boot install.   Though I appear unable to dualboot LL3.2 UEFItestbuild with Win10, I am able to dualboot Linux Mint 18 with Win10 with UEFI/Secure boot enabled.

hhhmmm - I'll look at mine and see if I can recall anything (I forgot I was going to check).. The only thing I may have done differently is install LL3.2 to another disk (SDCard) vs. the main..

I re-read another post.. you mentioned

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As I'm installing in CSM mode (Legacy); perhaps this?? You shouldn't need Legacy since you're using the UEFI version (although I'd assume it should work)..
You can leave UEFI enabled; Secureboot probably will need disabled to boot from USB (but could try enabled)..

[trinidad]

Hi Mike,

Yes, I have heard that Mint 18+ has incorporated rEFInd into their OS and all seems to be well for UEFI dual boots with Windows 10 on mid-dated hardware (not older than P4 and not newer than early I7 I think this means) Not so much for Ubu LTS without rEFInd, but UEFI issues are beginning to be resolved for Linux in general.

TC

[m654321]

Hi Mike,

Yes, I have heard that Mint 18+ has incorporated rEFInd into their OS and all seems to be well for UEFI dual boots with Windows 10 on mid-dated hardware (not older than P4 and not newer than early I7 I think this means) Not so much for Ubu LTS without rEFInd, but UEFI issues are beginning to be resolved for Linux in general.

TC

From what I've seen, most of the major linux distributions now seem to come with UEFI support (and have done for a while) though Zorin seems to be one of the few that don't.  Hopefully, UEFI/Secure Boot support will start being part of the LL4  distribution releases to assist those with newer PCs to dual-boot more easily with Windows OS, but obviously will leave that one up to Jerry to decide. 

I always smile when I see your initials - TC.  It reminds me of the American cartoon series 'Top Cat' I used to watch on TV many decades ago, which I'm sure you know of...

Mike   

[trinidad]

Maybe I should change them to TOC for tired old cat. Don't feel too Toppish today in the below zero wind chills here. Sitting by the fire.

Trinidad Bryant Cruz