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Title: UEFI Build Test
Post by: Jerry on January 01, 2016, 12:43:09 AM
I'd like a few volunteers to test some of the UEFI builds I've been working on.  If you have a UEFI computer and would like to help test this ISO, please reply to this thread and let me know. This cannot be tested on VirtualBox, it must be installed to actual hardware.

I've added a license file to go with this - https://www.linuxliteos.com/files/EFI-LICENSE.txt (https://www.linuxliteos.com/files/EFI-LICENSE.txt) You'll have to agree with this first, thank you.
 
During this test please report the following:

- Is Secure Boot and or UEFI enabled on your computer
- What install options you choose (check boxes on the installer etc)
- Whether this is a dual, multiple or single boot
- Any errors that occur during the install: please keep an eye on the installer, see where it crashes
- Screenshot any crashes or error messages

Anyone wanting to use as is where is test builds of Linux Lite with UEFI support can get them here - http://repo.linuxliteos.com/uefitests/ (http://repo.linuxliteos.com/uefitests/)

Notes:

- Some Grub menu items are missing/not working
- You should be able to upgrade from within a Series once this is installed
- You will need an internet connection to install this
- ISO is larger than 1.1Gb so it may not work on all BIOS's
- Lite Widget not showing Updates Status
- Please check the rest of this thread before asking any questions

This is no indication that LL will start producing Linux Lite with UEFI support, this is simply an experimental project and perhaps the only chance to get a Linux Lite stable UEFI build.

(http://i.imgur.com/NaHBu34.png)

Thank you in advance, Jerry :)
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: m654321 on January 01, 2016, 01:09:22 AM
This was very welcome news, Jerry.

I'd be more than happy to see if this works on my AsusG750js - I have a spare drive to set it up on.

Cheers & a Very Happy New Year!

Best wishes
Mike
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: Jerry on January 01, 2016, 01:12:48 AM
I've added a license file to go with this, necessary to ensure this stays as a private test - https://www.linuxliteos.com/files/EFI-LICENSE.txt (https://www.linuxliteos.com/files/EFI-LICENSE.txt) You'll have to agree with this first, thank you. You will need to install Filezilla to access the ISO.

Code: [Select]
sudo apt-get install filezilla
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: m654321 on January 01, 2016, 07:20:34 AM
Quote
I've added a license file to go with this, necessary to ensure this stays as a private test - https://www.linuxliteos.com/files/EFI-LICENSE.txt (https://www.linuxliteos.com/files/EFI-LICENSE.txt) You'll have to agree with this first, thank you.

The only caveat is that I wont be able to do this immediately, due to work pressures.  However, I will give it a go during my next block of holiday, which will be towards the end of March, if not before.

Mike
         
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: Jerry on January 01, 2016, 07:22:42 AM
I'd say the test will be well over by then. Cheers anyway.

Folks if you want UEFI, we need volunteers. If I don't get enough, it simply won't happen.
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: gold_finger on January 01, 2016, 08:27:07 AM
Really, really wish I could help out on this but I don't have a UEFI computer.  Sorry.
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: Jerry on January 01, 2016, 08:32:48 AM
Not a problem gold_finger, appreciate the reply :)
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: avj on January 01, 2016, 11:59:12 AM
I wish I could help, but all of my hardware is too old.  It seems like a perfect chance to be part of a major step in bringing Linux Lite to more people who are using the newer versions of windows.
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: technomancer on January 01, 2016, 11:59:49 AM
I have a UEFI computer ASUS GL551JM I can test on.
I have limited knowledge of UEFI, but am willing to learn and
offer my time to test and post results appropriately.
I am familiar with FTP. Ready to test !
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: Jerry on January 01, 2016, 04:13:53 PM
Excellent. In the interests of keeping this as simple as possible, I would recommend you use a spare hard drive for these tests. If you want to use an existing hard drive already in your pc thats ok too, I just don't have the time to go through any hiccups you may encounter with existing data. We just need to concentrate on this UEFI thing only. If this ends up working on half a dozen different pc's or more, that's conformation enough for me. Cheers :)
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: gold_finger on January 01, 2016, 05:02:05 PM
@ technomancer and anyone else who may try UEFI install,

Although I don't have a UEFI computer myself, I've guided many, many people through that type of install.  Below are a few pointers.  If you run into problems, post back and I may be able to help.

Like Jerry said, if you have a spare drive use that so no risk of wiping out your main drive.  Boot the LL dvd/usb and open a terminal to make sure it got booted in UEFI mode by entering this command:
Code: [Select]
ls /sys/firmwareIf you see "efi" listed in the output, you're booted correctly in UEFI mode.  If not, you're booted in Legacy mode.  Boot again and try to find a boot option specifying UEFI/EFI for the dvd/usb.  (The dvd/usb will install in same mode that it got booted in, so you need to make sure it's booted in UEFI mode before installing.  Otherwise, it will install and work in Legacy mode and you will probably not realize that is what happened.)

Once boot mode is confirmed, run installer.  If you pick first option to erase and use the whole disk, the installer should automatically create the necessary partitions: a FAT32 "EFI System Partition", an "Ext4" root partition and a swap partition.  Try that option first to see if all works well.

If you feel adventurous and want to run another test to create partitions manually and add a home partition, go ahead and do that, but don't forget to create a small (550MB), FAT32 partition near beginning of drive.  Set mount point to "/boot/efi" and make the "Device for boot loader installation" point to that partition instead of the default "/dev/sda".

If all went well with tests and you want to try dual-boot with Windows, clone Windows to spare drive (keeping original untouched), then follow this tutorial:  http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=163126 (http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=163126)

If don't have spare drive make sure you have a means of restoring Windows (if that's what is on the computer) before you run test install of LL.  There are tutorials on the Windows forums for creating a new install/restore USB.  Search there and create one if you don't already have this done.
Windows 7 Forums (http://www.sevenforums.com/)
Windows 8 Forums (http://www.eightforums.com/)
Windows 10 Forums (http://www.tenforums.com/)


P.s.
If install seems to go well but computer won't boot into it, go into your UEFI/Bios settings and make sure it is set to UEFI mode booting.  (Might not be a bad idea to disable "Secure Boot" also, just in case that is causing the problem.)
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: Coastie on January 01, 2016, 06:36:54 PM
I may be off topic but I still don't understand this problem. I installed LL 2.6 on this new computer with the help of ASUS. I did not understand how to change the boot order since it does not have the good old BIOS so it would boot from a DVD (or USB) before the hard drive. Once they talked me through changing the boot order, LL installed with no problems. Would a UEFI build change the boot order?  :-\
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: technomancer on January 01, 2016, 07:29:46 PM
I have a spare SATA HDD 250GB, and will install fresh everytime. I understand this is only related to testing UEFI.
All i need now is a copy of the build. I agree to the terms.
Thank you gold_finger for the tips !

Excellent. In the interests of keeping this as simple as possible, I would recommend you use a spare hard drive for these tests. If you want to use an existing hard drive already in your pc thats ok too, I just don't have the time to go through any hiccups you may encounter with existing data. We just need to concentrate on this UEFI thing only. If this ends up working on half a dozen different pc's or more, that's conformation enough for me. Cheers :)
@ technomancer and anyone else who may try UEFI install,

Although I don't have a UEFI computer myself, I've guided many, many people through that type of install.  Below are a few pointers.  If you run into problems, post back and I may be able to help.

Like Jerry said, if you have a spare drive use that so no risk of wiping out your main drive.  Boot the LL dvd/usb and open a terminal to make sure it got booted in UEFI mode by entering this command:
Code: [Select]
ls /sys/firmwareIf you see "efi" listed in the output, you're booted correctly in UEFI mode.  If not, you're booted in Legacy mode.  Boot again and try to find a boot option specifying UEFI/EFI for the dvd/usb.  (The dvd/usb will install in same mode that it got booted in, so you need to make sure it's booted in UEFI mode before installing.  Otherwise, it will install and work in Legacy mode and you will probably not realize that is what happened.)

Once boot mode is confirmed, run installer.  If you pick first option to erase and use the whole disk, the installer should automatically create the necessary partitions: a FAT32 "EFI System Partition", an "Ext4" root partition and a swap partition.  Try that option first to see if all works well.

If you feel adventurous and want to run another test to create partitions manually and add a home partition, go ahead and do that, but don't forget to create a small (550MB), FAT32 partition near beginning of drive.  Set mount point to "/boot/efi" and make the "Device for boot loader installation" point to that partition instead of the default "/dev/sda".

If all went well with tests and you want to try dual-boot with Windows, clone Windows to spare drive (keeping original untouched), then follow this tutorial:  http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=163126 (http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=163126)

If don't have spare drive make sure you have a means of restoring Windows (if that's what is on the computer) before you run test install of LL.  There are tutorials on the Windows forums for creating a new install/restore USB.  Search there and create one if you don't already have this done.
Windows 7 Forums (http://www.sevenforums.com/)
Windows 8 Forums (http://www.eightforums.com/)
Windows 10 Forums (http://www.tenforums.com/)


P.s.
If install seems to go well but computer won't boot into it, go into your UEFI/Bios settings and make sure it is set to UEFI mode booting.  (Might not be a bad idea to disable "Secure Boot" also, just in case that is causing the problem.)
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: gold_finger on January 01, 2016, 10:59:01 PM
I may be off topic but I still don't understand this problem. I installed LL 2.6 on this new computer with the help of ASUS. I did not understand how to change the boot order since it does not have the good old BIOS so it would boot from a DVD (or USB) before the hard drive. Once they talked me through changing the boot order, LL installed with no problems. Would a UEFI build change the boot order?  :-\

In a word -- No.


Some basics:

After powering on the computer, firmware built into the motherboard handles the initial boot process.  It performs basic tests of components to make sure all is well, then passes on responsibility to complete the boot process to operating system boot loaders on the hard drive.  On older computers that firmware was called BIOS (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bios) = Basic Input/Output System.  Most new computers now use firmware called UEFI (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uefi) = Unified Extensible Firmware Interface.  UEFI has expanded capabilities over the older BIOS firmware.

Hard drives can be formatted to use either MBR (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_boot_record)/(msdos) partitions, or GPT (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table) partitions.  MBR partitioned drives can only have 4 primary partitions, or 3 primary partitions and one extended partition that can then house multiple logical partitions to overcome the 4-partition limit.  The first 512 bytes on an MBR drive contain the Master Boot Record (MBR) and the partition table for the drive. The MBR holds initial boot loader code for installed operating system(s).  Most BIOS-based computers use MBR drives and after initial P.O.S.T. (Power On Self Test), the firmware points to the MBR of the hard drive to boot the installed operating system(s).  (Only one operation system can have initial boot code in the MBR.  The initial boot code there points to second stage boot code located elsewhere on the drive to complete the boot process and/or offer choices to boot multiple operating systems if others are installed.)

In contrast, most new computers with UEFI firmware use GPT partitioned drives.  GPT drives don't have a 4-partition limit and have other advantages over MBR drives.  Also, boot loader code is placed on a special "EFI System Partition" (ESP) instead of on the MBR and UEFI firmware points to that partition to finish booting an operation system after initial system checks are done.  The ESP can hold boot loader files for multiple operating system.  Typically the UEFI firmware will provide the user with a way to specify which operating system to use as the "default" system when booting the computer.

Not all UEFI firmware is implemented the same way -- it varies from one manufacturer to the next.  Read your computer's user manual and/or boot into the UEFI settings menu and have a look around at the different options available.  Eg.  If you have Windows on the computer and later install a Linux distro, sometimes the firmware will automatically make the last installed system (Linux) the default OS to boot into.  Others may keep Windows as the default and not show a Linux choice until you manually change that in the settings.


Now, getting back to what you stated about installing LL after talking to Asus.  I'm going to make a guess that you installed LL as the only OS on the computer and wiped-out Windows.  Is that correct?

The reason I say that is because I highly doubt that they would have known how to guide you through a UEFI dual-boot install with LL and Windows.

My guess is that you installed LL in Legacy mode, not UEFI mode.  Assuming that Windows was installed originally in UEFI mode, that would mean that the hard drive was using GPT partitions.  If you installed LL in Legacy mode, dual-booting would not work without you having to manually change boot modes depending on which OS you were trying to boot.  Since you didn't state having to do that, I'm assuming that you only have LL on the computer.

You can confirm that LL was in fact installed in Legacy mode (not UEFI mode) by running this command in a terminal:
Code: [Select]
sudo parted --list
Assuming the line "Partition Table =" says "gpt", you will likely see a small (1-16MB), unformatted partition labeled "bios_grub", (or "bios_boot") as part of the output.  The presence of that partition would confirm that you have a Legacy mode install.  (That is not a problem and does not affect the operation of LL.  I'm just pointing out that you probably don't have a UEFI mode install.  In all likelihood, the Asus people had you change the UEFI settings to use CSM/Legacy instead of UEFI.)

If "Partition Table = msdos", then you also have a Legacy mode install of LL.

P.s.
If you are dual-booting with Windows, then my guess is that both OS's are installed in Legacy mode.
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: Coastie on January 01, 2016, 11:54:50 PM
In a word -- No. ...

If "Partition Table = msdos", then you also have a Legacy mode install of LL. ...

Thanks for the explanation, gold_finger.

Model: ATA TOSHIBA DT01ACA2 (scsi)
Disk /dev/sda: 2000GB
Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/4096B
Partition Table: msdos

Number  Start       End        Size        Type         File system     Flags
 1           1049kB  1988GB  1988GB  primary     ext4                boot
 2           1988GB  2000GB  12.0GB  extended
 5           1988GB  2000GB  12.0GB  logical       linux-swap(v1)

Yes, I installed LL as the only OS on the computer and wiped-out Windows. So if you want the "advantages" of the UEFI, you need to have a UEFI a build of LL. If you are satisfied with the legacy mode, the current build is fine even it you want more than one operating system on your computer?  :-\
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: Jerry on January 02, 2016, 02:02:57 AM
The first build is going up to FTP as I type this.

@technomancer, ignore any cosmetic differences at this stage that you're not used to seeing. Grub and many parts of the system need updating, but I'm not concerned with that at this stage. The first build needs to tell us that it will boot and install in UEFI, if the first few builds don't work, there's no point spending any time modifying LL to be up to date. What is new is that the Help Manual shortcut is now on the Desktop, a lot of people are missing this valuable resource, now it's 'in your face' :)

Install takes longer than usual because this time around, regional settings should stick after your install has completed. It also has to install and load all the EFI packages. So an internet connection is now mandatory.

I'll pm you with the FTP details when the upload has finished. Many thanks again :)
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: technomancer on January 02, 2016, 10:48:55 AM
The first build is going up to FTP as I type this.

@technomancer, ignore any cosmetic differences at this stage that you're not used to seeing. Grub and many parts of the system need updating, but I'm not concerned with that at this stage. The first build needs to tell us that it will boot and install in UEFI, if the first few builds don't work, there's no point spending any time modifying LL to be up to date. What is new is that the Help Manual shortcut is now on the Desktop, a lot of people are missing this valuable resource, now it's 'in your face' :)

Install takes longer than usual because this time around, regional settings should stick after your install has completed. It also has to install and load all the EFI packages. So an internet connection is now mandatory.

I'll pm you with the FTP details when the upload has finished. Many thanks again :)

@Jerry- I will get started on it today. Thank you for the opportunity to help out.
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: j1r1 on January 02, 2016, 02:02:29 PM
Hi Jerry,
I have some comps with UEFI and spare HDs. I agree wit the license statement, please send me the access data.

BTW, all the best in the New Year!
Jiri
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: technomancer on January 02, 2016, 03:22:54 PM
@ Jerry
First test completed- sent you a message on results.

Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: Jocklad on January 02, 2016, 03:40:22 PM
Would liked to have helped with this but do not have any UEFI machines.

Jocklad
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: technomancer on January 02, 2016, 05:04:11 PM
@ Jerry
First test completed- sent you a message on results.

@ Jerry
Second test completed- sent you a message on results.
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: Jerry on January 02, 2016, 06:56:38 PM
@Jiri - PM sent, thank you for helping :)

@technomancer, your reports are excellent! Can you please post them in this thread (just copy and paste the pm's you sent me please), it will set the standard for how we want this information reported. Well done :)
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: firenice03 on January 02, 2016, 07:02:48 PM
I'll check my junk  ;)...
I hope to find something... Been debating something newer, but not sure I'll have by time..

Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: technomancer on January 02, 2016, 07:28:01 PM
@Jiri - PM sent, thank you for helping :)

@technomancer, your reports are excellent! Can you please post them in this thread (just copy and paste the pm's you sent me please), it will set the standard for how we want this information reported. Well done :)

Thank you very much Jerry.  I will post them below. I made a text document i revise after each install, then copy and paste here. The document has continuity as i progress.

##################################################################################################
2nd test results-

During this test we need you to report the following:

- What install options you choose (check boxes on the installer etc)
 *-installed no updates/codecs.
 * full disk encryption(LVM) set password, home folder encryption(it takes much longer to install)
 * Installs without errors.
 -Whole drive automatic partitioning. UEFI enabled, CSM disabled (can post BIOS screenshot if desired)
 -Installed from DVD, computer picked up automatically DVD UEFI booting. Booted to "live" then clicked installer.
 -installed with HDD in AHCI mode


- Whether this is a dual boot test or single boot (installing Linux Lite UEFI only on your computer)
 * Single boot

- Any errors that occur during the install: please keep an eye on the installer, see where it crashes
 *After clicking restart, the DVD ejects. There is no prompt to hit "Enter" after DVD ejects so it looks like the installer hangs. (Pressing "Enter" may not be a "known" with new users to linux.)
 *I did an identical reinstall and let it sit after ejecting the DVD to see if it would time out without hitting restart-It did not reboot after waiting 10 minutes so i pressed "Enter" and it restarted immediately.

- Install using another keyboard selection, eg. English UK keyboard
 * US defaults

- Install in another language, eg. German or French etc.
 *ENG US

- Screenshot any crashes or error messages
 *After install completes, I click "reboot".
  Then upon reboot the following happens- Splash screen with progress bar staying at a miniscule mark and stops.
  I waited about 1 minute.Boot-up hangs until "Enter" is pressed multiple times, and stops after each press until an error appears-
(http://s5.postimg.org/eb1b99xv7/image_4035.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/eb1b99xv7/)
-
 *I let the re-boot just sit after install and see if it would boot after waiting 20 minutes- It did NOT unless I pressed "Enter". Same error occurs as stated above.

####################################################################################################
1st test results-

During this test we need you to report the following:

- What install options you choose (check boxes on the installer etc)
 *-none, installed no updates/codecs.
 -Whole drive automatic partitioning. UEFI enabled, CSM disabled (can post BIOS screenshot if desired)
 -Installed from DVD, computer picked up automaticly DVD UEFI booting. Booted to "install" option, not live.
 -installed with HDD in AHCI mode

- Whether this is a dual boot test or single boot (installing Linux Lite UEFI only on your computer)
 * Single boot

- Any errors that occur during the install: please keep an eye on the installer, see where it crashes
 *none

- Install using another keyboard selection, eg. English UK keyboard
 * US defaults

- Install in another language, eg. German or French etc.
 *ENG US

- Screenshot any crashes or error messages
 *none to report

#########These are my results documentation for testing LinuxLite2.6,UEFI #####technomancer##############
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: Jerry on January 02, 2016, 07:30:57 PM
@technomancer, LVM and home partition encryption has been covered in previous release announcements. Other than that, looking good so far. Could you perform an install with Secure Boot enabled? And then another install with a different language and corresponding keyboard. Cheers.
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: technomancer on January 02, 2016, 07:43:03 PM
@ Jerry
I will do those installs as soon as i get a chance, tomorrow for sure.
Any languages in particular ?
Cheers !
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: Jerry on January 02, 2016, 07:51:15 PM
No language in particular, you may already speak another. Remember, the prompts will not be in English, so choose one you can get by on.
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: Jerry on January 02, 2016, 07:52:38 PM
The language should also stick after first boot, can you please inform me of this too? Cheers :)
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: technomancer on January 02, 2016, 08:00:10 PM
The language should also stick after first boot, can you please inform me of this too? Cheers :)
Sure thing !
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: j1r1 on January 03, 2016, 06:05:15 AM
Hi Jerry,
first results follow.
I used for testing my comp built on Asus motherboard P8P67LE (about three and half years old, latest BIOS from 2013).
(http://i.imgur.com/jHCWvsl.jpg)
I created DVD and USB flash bootable media. I faced an elementary problem - I was not able to boot in EFI mode. In BIOS is just one setting to enable EFI boot:
(http://i.imgur.com/nqjcqIT.jpg)(http://imgur.com/E7UzKsq)

When pressing F8 during system start, it gives this menu:
(http://i.imgur.com/WfnHNoL.jpg)
i.e.DVD boot does not offer UEFI boot, USB boot offers it. When selecting the USB flash boot, BusyBox fails nearly immediately with this: ****** corrected - see below******
(http://i.imgur.com/pCHASq9.jpg)
When selecting the DVD boot, it seems to work fine but the result is not booting in UEFI (at least if the gold_finger"s guidance is correct) since it shows:
(http://i.imgur.com/9aoGVw4.jpg)

I guess the problem is on the computer bios side. Next try will do with Dell laptop.
= = = = = = = = = = = = == = = = =
Correction: I prepared the USB bootable flash with UNetbootin as usually... which is incorrect (correct is just to copy all the files from .iso to  the USB flash memory). After fixing this issue USB UEFI boot works normally. Will continue with testing this.
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: Jerry on January 03, 2016, 06:21:52 AM
Thanks Jiri, I'll look into that. Excellent reporting :)
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: j1r1 on January 03, 2016, 07:35:17 AM
Continuation - my Asus test results:

 *- Installed no updates/codecs.
 * no encryption
 * Whole drive automatic partitioning. UEFI enabled, Secure Boot option not available in BIOS
 *Installed from USB flash, UEFI USB booting selected manually from boot menu (F8). Tried both "live" then clicked installer and "installation" directly.
(http://i.imgur.com/VrgiNNZ.jpg)
 * Installed with SSD in AHCI mode
 * Single boot

- Any errors that occur during the install: please keep an eye on the installer, see where it crashes
US defaults and US version with Czech keyboard installs OK. After reboot the CZ keyboard remains available in selection panel but US keyboard is selected (LL2.6 does the same). No errors observed. No extra manipulation with USB/keyboard during reboot required.

Installation of Czech and German versions (with corresponding keyboards) tried, both failed at late stage ("Installing system"):

(http://i.imgur.com/YKrOEK5.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/4bw6mEO.jpg)

System quit to live desktop, reboot from disk does not work.

Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: j1r1 on January 03, 2016, 08:00:16 AM
Extended test:
First installed non-UEFI Windows7 Home Premium to one half of SSD.
Then tried to install alongside UEFI LinuxLite. Although the Windows partitions are visible from Live desktop, the alongside installation of LL is not offered at all - just "Erase Disk" option. In "Something else" option the Windows partitions are not shown and all disk is declared as free space.
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: Herbie on January 03, 2016, 12:50:51 PM
I would like to test this.
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: j1r1 on January 03, 2016, 01:24:59 PM
Second tested machine is Dell Latitude E6430 (laptop). Bios version A16.
UEFI boot works both with DVD and USB flash, but for booting of USB flash the Secure Boot must be disabled (otherwise immediately reports "selected boot device failed").
In shutdown before reboot it ejects the DVD but does not prompt to press Enter (waiting for it obviously).
Tested installation of other languages - Czech and German, both failed the same way as in previous tests.
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: Jerry on January 03, 2016, 07:43:49 PM
Thanks Jiri, looks like the language crash is consistent and needs some work.

@Herbie, if you agree to the license in the first post, I can send you the details.
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: technomancer on January 03, 2016, 08:12:55 PM
##################################################################################################
4th install results

-install with a different language and corresponding keyboard.

Install proceeded with Test #1 parameters  and Secure boot enabled -  NOTSuccessful in Espanol/Spanish
Installer has error window come up, then hangs at black screen. I had to force POPO(power off power on)
##################################################################################################
3rd test results

-Could you perform an install with Secure Boot enabled?

Install proceeded with Test #1 parameters and Secure boot enabled- Successful.
##################################################################################################
2nd test results-

During this test we need you to report the following:

- What install options you choose (check boxes on the installer etc)
 *-installed no updates/codecs.
 * full disk encryption(LVM) set password, home folder encryption(it takes much longer to install)
 * Installs without errors.
 -Whole drive automatic partitioning. UEFI enabled, CSM disabled (can post BIOS screenshot if desired)
 -Installed from DVD, computer picked up automatically DVD UEFI booting. Booted to "live" then clicked installer.
 -installed with HDD in AHCI mode


- Whether this is a dual boot test or single boot (installing Linux Lite UEFI only on your computer)
 * Single boot

- Any errors that occur during the install: please keep an eye on the installer, see where it crashes
 *After clicking restart, the DVD ejects. There is no prompt to hit "Enter" after DVD ejects so it looks like the installer hangs. (Pressing "Enter" may not be a "known" with new users to linux.)
 *I did an identical reinstall and let it sit after ejecting the DVD to see if it would time out without hitting restart-It did not reboot after waiting 10 minutes so i pressed "Enter" and it restarted immediately.

- Install using another keyboard selection, eg. English UK keyboard
 * US defaults

- Install in another language, eg. German or French etc.
 *ENG US

- Screenshot any crashes or error messages
 *After install completes, I click "reboot".
  Then upon reboot the following happens- Splash screen with progress bar staying at a miniscule mark and stops.
  I waited about 1 minute.Boot-up hangs until "Enter" is pressed multiple times, and stops after each press until an error appears-
(http://s5.postimg.org/eb1b99xv7/image_4035.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/eb1b99xv7/)
-
 *I let the re-boot just sit after install and see if it would boot after waiting 20 minutes- It did NOT unless I pressed "Enter". Same error occurs as stated above.

####################################################################################################
1st test results-

During this test we need you to report the following:

- What install options you choose (check boxes on the installer etc)
 *-none, installed no updates/codecs.
 -Whole drive automatic partitioning. UEFI enabled, CSM disabled (can post BIOS screenshot if desired)
 -Installed from DVD, computer picked up automaticly DVD UEFI booting. Booted to "install" option, not live.
 -installed with HDD in AHCI mode

- Whether this is a dual boot test or single boot (installing Linux Lite UEFI only on your computer)
 * Single boot

- Any errors that occur during the install: please keep an eye on the installer, see where it crashes
 *none

- Install using another keyboard selection, eg. English UK keyboard
 * US defaults

- Install in another language, eg. German or French etc.
 *ENG US

- Screenshot any crashes or error messages
 *none to report

#########This is my results documentation for testing LinuxLite2.6,UEFI #####technomancer##############
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: gold_finger on January 04, 2016, 01:10:51 AM
Quote from: Coastie
Yes, I installed LL as the only OS on the computer and wiped-out Windows. So if you want the "advantages" of the UEFI, you need to have a UEFI a build of LL. If you are satisfied with the legacy mode, the current build is fine even it you want more than one operating system on your computer?  :-\

@Coastie,

As far as daily operation of your computer goes, it makes no difference whether you've installed in Legacy or UEFI mode.  The firmware (UEFI or Bios) only comes into play for the first few seconds after powering on the computer.  After that, the operating system takes over and works the same no matter which mode you initially booted in.  You can install other OS's if you want -- just install them in Legacy mode too so that dual-booting will work properly.  It's only when you have OS's installed in different modes that you will have problems with dual-booting.  Perfect example of that is below.

If you've got further questions, Coastie, start a new thread please.  I think Jerry would rather this thread stick to posting results of tests.


Extended test:
First installed non-UEFI Windows7 Home Premium to one half of SSD.
Then tried to install alongside UEFI LinuxLite. Although the Windows partitions are visible from Live desktop, the alongside installation of LL is not offered at all - just "Erase Disk" option. In "Something else" option the Windows partitions are not shown and all disk is declared as free space.

These are common occurrences when attempting to do a "mixed-mode" install -- one OS in Legacy mode, the other in UEFI mode.  In this particular case, since Windows was installed first (in Legacy mode), the drive was automatically set to use MBR partitions.  A UEFI mode install (of Linux or Windows) requires the use of GPT partititons, so installer won't offer choice to install "alongside" if other OS is not already installed in same mode.  The drive will also need to be converted to using GPT partitions which might be the reason why installer shows the disk as empty.  (There are a few other possible explanations for this behaviour, but not worth going into now.) 
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: Jerry on January 04, 2016, 06:20:11 AM
Yes please new thread. Although I enjoy the information being shared here, we need to keep this thread clear for UEFI testing feedback only, Thank you :)
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: Jerry on January 04, 2016, 06:22:54 AM
You guys are doing a great job here with these tests, I really appreciate the time you are taking to do this :) It's proving to be extremely valuable. Next few days I'm going to work on the language issue. If I can get that ironed out, I'll release a second ISO to test.
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: j1r1 on January 04, 2016, 07:27:04 AM
Jerry,
I appreciate the work you do and I am really happy to contribute.
Fell free to contact me in case of need.
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: jalcom on January 04, 2016, 08:31:19 PM
hey Jerry, I am in... I have a new Acer Aspire R3-131T UEFI. I think is a good idea to test with this new little machine.

jalcom


I'd like a few volunteers to test a new UEFI build I've been working on. The file will be hosted via private access. If you have a UEFI computer and would like to help test this ISO, please reply to this thread and let me know. This cannot be tested on VirtualBox, it must be installed to actual hardware :)

I've added a license file to go with this, necessary to ensure this stays as a private test - https://www.linuxliteos.com/files/EFI-LICENSE.txt (https://www.linuxliteos.com/files/EFI-LICENSE.txt) You'll have to agree with this first, thank you. You will need to install Filezilla to access the ISO.

Code: [Select]
sudo apt-get install filezilla
During this test we need you to report the following:

- What install options you choose (check boxes on the installer etc)
- Whether this is a dual boot test or single boot (installing Linux Lite UEFI only on your computer)
- Any errors that occur during the install: please keep an eye on the installer, see where it crashes
- Install using another keyboard selection, eg. English UK keyboard
- Install in another language, eg. German or French etc.
- Screenshot any crashes or error messages

Thank you in advance, Jerry :)
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: jalcom on January 04, 2016, 08:33:12 PM
Jerry,

I am in with the UEFI Testing, I have a new ACER ASPIRE R3-131T Laptop with UEFI. Just give me the ISO and I will come back to you with my comments.

Cheers mate

Jalcom
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: Jerry on January 04, 2016, 08:44:29 PM
@Jalcom pm sent, thank you.
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: Jerry on January 05, 2016, 01:13:36 AM
The language issue is proving to be a huge challenge, I feel my brain slowly melting after each fix attempt :( Will keep you all posted.
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: Jerry on January 05, 2016, 01:16:43 AM
Installer log crash details - /var/log/installer/debug: (Italian language chosen)

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Ubiquity 2.18.8.11
Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "overlay-scrollbar"

(ubiquity:3973): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_radio_button_set_group: assertion '!g_slist_find (group, radio_button)' failed

(ubiquity:3973): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_radio_button_set_group: assertion '!g_slist_find (group, radio_button)' failed

(ubiquity:3973): IBUS-WARNING **: The owner of /home/linuxlite/.config/ibus/bus is not root!
update_release_notes_label()
update_release_notes_label()
update_release_notes_label()
locale.setlocale failed: unsupported locale setting (LANG=it_IT.UTF-8)
perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
   LANGUAGE = "it_IT.UTF-8",
   LC_ALL = (unset),
   LANG = "it_IT.UTF-8"
    are supported and installed on your system.
perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory
No such schema 'com.canonical.indicator.session'
No such schema 'com.canonical.indicator.session'
No such schema 'com.canonical.indicator.session'
No such schema 'com.canonical.indicator.session'
perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
   LANGUAGE = "it_IT.UTF-8",
   LC_ALL = (unset),
   LANG = "it_IT.UTF-8"
    are supported and installed on your system.
perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory
perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
   LANGUAGE = "it_IT.UTF-8",
   LC_ALL = (unset),
   LANG = "it_IT.UTF-8"
    are supported and installed on your system.
perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory
/usr/lib/ubiquity/plugins/ubi-timezone.py:208: Warning: Source ID 1717 was not found when attempting to remove it
  GLib.source_remove(self.timeout_id)
/usr/lib/ubiquity/plugins/ubi-timezone.py:208: Warning: Source ID 1754 was not found when attempting to remove it
  GLib.source_remove(self.timeout_id)
/usr/lib/ubiquity/plugins/ubi-console-setup.py:72: Warning: Source ID 1828 was not found when attempting to remove it
  GLib.source_remove(self.keyboard_layout_timeout_id)
/usr/lib/ubiquity/plugins/ubi-console-setup.py:74: Warning: Source ID 1831 was not found when attempting to remove it
  GLib.source_remove(self.keyboard_variant_timeout_id)
No such schema 'com.canonical.indicator.session'
No such schema 'com.canonical.indicator.session'
No such schema 'com.canonical.indicator.session'
No such schema 'com.canonical.indicator.session'
No such schema 'com.canonical.indicator.session'
No such schema 'com.canonical.indicator.session'
No such schema 'com.canonical.indicator.session'
No such schema 'com.canonical.indicator.session'
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: misko_2083 on January 05, 2016, 01:38:03 PM
Installer log crash details - /var/log/installer/debug: (Italian language chosen)

Code: [Select]
Ubiquity 2.18.8.11
Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "overlay-scrollbar"

(ubiquity:3973): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_radio_button_set_group: assertion '!g_slist_find (group, radio_button)' failed

(ubiquity:3973): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_radio_button_set_group: assertion '!g_slist_find (group, radio_button)' failed

(ubiquity:3973): IBUS-WARNING **: The owner of /home/linuxlite/.config/ibus/bus is not root!
update_release_notes_label()
update_release_notes_label()
update_release_notes_label()
locale.setlocale failed: unsupported locale setting (LANG=it_IT.UTF-8)
perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
   LANGUAGE = "it_IT.UTF-8",
   LC_ALL = (unset),
   LANG = "it_IT.UTF-8"
    are supported and installed on your system.
perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory
No such schema 'com.canonical.indicator.session'
No such schema 'com.canonical.indicator.session'
No such schema 'com.canonical.indicator.session'
No such schema 'com.canonical.indicator.session'
perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
   LANGUAGE = "it_IT.UTF-8",
   LC_ALL = (unset),
   LANG = "it_IT.UTF-8"
    are supported and installed on your system.
perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory
perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
   LANGUAGE = "it_IT.UTF-8",
   LC_ALL = (unset),
   LANG = "it_IT.UTF-8"
    are supported and installed on your system.
perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory
/usr/lib/ubiquity/plugins/ubi-timezone.py:208: Warning: Source ID 1717 was not found when attempting to remove it
  GLib.source_remove(self.timeout_id)
/usr/lib/ubiquity/plugins/ubi-timezone.py:208: Warning: Source ID 1754 was not found when attempting to remove it
  GLib.source_remove(self.timeout_id)
/usr/lib/ubiquity/plugins/ubi-console-setup.py:72: Warning: Source ID 1828 was not found when attempting to remove it
  GLib.source_remove(self.keyboard_layout_timeout_id)
/usr/lib/ubiquity/plugins/ubi-console-setup.py:74: Warning: Source ID 1831 was not found when attempting to remove it
  GLib.source_remove(self.keyboard_variant_timeout_id)
No such schema 'com.canonical.indicator.session'
No such schema 'com.canonical.indicator.session'
No such schema 'com.canonical.indicator.session'
No such schema 'com.canonical.indicator.session'
No such schema 'com.canonical.indicator.session'
No such schema 'com.canonical.indicator.session'
No such schema 'com.canonical.indicator.session'
No such schema 'com.canonical.indicator.session'
Is ibus-gtk installed?
Code: [Select]
apt-cache policy ibus-gtk
Locale is missing.
I would try to add the locale before installing.
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sudo locale-gen "it_IT.UTF-8"and
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sudo dpkg-reconfigure localesAfter that I would run the install.
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: Jerry on January 05, 2016, 08:16:05 PM
ibus-gtk is installed. As far as the locale goes, we can't have people running a terminal command before they run the installer. It just has to work. For some reason, the installer isn't generating the locale as it's supposed to.
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: Jerry on January 05, 2016, 09:12:23 PM
I'm still working through the language issue, I must have built and tested over a dozen ISO's in the last 2 days :(
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: avj on January 05, 2016, 09:30:47 PM
I don't know if this will help or not but I found a bug report "IBUS-WARNING **: The owner of ~/.config/ibus/bus is not root!" related to gedit, in comment #12 it states:
Code: [Select]
The reason for this bug is that when you start gedit or so IM module from IBus got loaded. As you do "sudo", the user of IM module would be "root".

However, the ibus-daemon is started by the normal user in most cases, which would create ~/.config/ibus/bus if it doesn't exists.

IIRC, this is the limitation of current D-Bus technology that two processes having different user (uid) cannot communicate.
The warning is just the superfacial representation of it.

this is the link to the report:   https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ibus/+bug/1125944

Again don't know if it will help, but I figured it couldn't hurt.  :)
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: Jerry on January 05, 2016, 10:05:51 PM
Thanks avj. ibus is not the issue here, the above error regarding ibus is common place in linux distributions and not worth agonizing over. It never hurts to point things out though, sometimes in the haze of development, the glaringly obvious can be easily overlooked. :)

If I can't get this language issue sorted out, I'm currently leaning towards releasing the 64bit UEFI build as a 'Beta' in February, with the caveat that the install must be performed in US English. In some ways this is actually no different to how people from different languages currently install and use Linux Lite in terms of the language sticking upon first boot.

Then when we hit 3.0 in June, all should be well as we'll have a fresh new way of building LL with what I hope will not include this issue.
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: joeslinux on January 08, 2016, 09:36:36 AM
I'd like a few volunteers to test a new UEFI build I've been working on. The file will be hosted via private access. If you have a UEFI computer and would like to help test this ISO, please reply to this thread and let me know. This cannot be tested on VirtualBox, it must be installed to actual hardware :)

As it happens I have a spare PC I just built specifically to do bare metal Linux installs:
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/joestechnology/saved/#view=hjyNnQ

I'd be happy to help test and I can offer a full video capture of my tests.
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: Herbie on January 09, 2016, 07:46:29 AM
@Jerry. Yes I agree, to the licence, will await instructions. :)
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: Jerry on January 09, 2016, 12:19:17 PM
Herbie, joeslinux, details sent. Thank you :)
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: Jerry on January 09, 2016, 12:20:11 PM
Jalcom, do you have any results yet? Cheers.
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: Herbie on January 10, 2016, 04:16:33 PM
 What install options you choose (check boxes on the installer etc)
Updates & 3rd party selected. Selected, something else, created separate home partition.
- Whether this is a dual boot test or single boot (installing Linux Lite UEFI only on your computer)
Triple boot: Win 10 & Mint on ssd, LinuxLite on HDD.
- Any errors that occur during the install: please keep an eye on the installer, see where it crashes
No errors.
- Install using another keyboard selection, eg. English UK keyboard
English UK keyboard. Reverted to US, upon restart.
- Install in another language, eg. German or French etc.
English UK
- Screenshot any crashes or error messages
Seems to be all ok, apart from a brief message, upon startup, in top right of screen, about virtualbox.
System hangs on shutdown, I need to do a hard shutdown. This must be an upstream issue, as it also occurs on Linux Mint. I have not installed any additional drivers yet.
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: Jerry on January 10, 2016, 07:37:20 PM
Thanks Herbie :)
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: firenice03 on January 15, 2016, 10:40:07 PM
I'll check my junk  ;)...
I hope to find something... Been debating something newer, but not sure I'll have by time..

Well I did pick up a little something new  ;D
It's a mobile desktop and has EFI and Secure Boot options; currently running I can see what you're doing Win10
If you're still testing I'm more than happy to give it a go... Curious of a few things myself..
If you want/need specs I can post back..
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: Colin23erk on January 18, 2016, 08:16:48 AM
I am interested in trying a UEFI iso of LinuxLite  . I have a HP Stream 11 32GB 64bit .  netbook  that I was about to wipe to do a clean install of Win 10 . When I have wiped the eMMC disk I would like to try Linux Lite as it is my preferred OS .
I made enquirers  about a UEFI version in early November but you had issues about Secure Boot and Microsoft wanting a licence fee

Colin
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: firenice03 on January 22, 2016, 12:18:54 AM
Ok so I've given it a few go's and I receive an error at the Grub portion of the install...

For Info...
- What install options you choose (check boxes on the installer etc)
Something else
- Whether this is a dual boot test or single boot (installing Linux Lite UEFI only on your computer)
Dual boot, LL on a separate partition and disk (micro SD)
- Any errors that occur during the install: please keep an eye on the installer, see where it crashes
Installing Grub2 package - - install fails
- Install using another keyboard selection, eg. English UK keyboard
Thus far defaults English
- Install in another language, eg. German or French etc.
English
- Screenshot any crashes or error messages
See below

I've created 3 partitions on the disk... Screenshots after the error
- The EFI partition tried both EFI (cannot select for loader) and Bios Grub (selected for loader)
Grub error on both
- A swap partition
- A root "/" partition

LL files/OS appear to install ("/" has typical LL file structure) - Grub portion fails...

(http://i.imgur.com/rcNwvZL.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/hEEluUS.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/V9n6Jst.png)

System spec should it help...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883722001
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: Jerry on January 22, 2016, 02:28:46 AM
Thank you firenice03 :)
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: gold_finger on January 22, 2016, 04:38:14 AM
I've created 3 partitions on the disk... Screenshots after the error
- The EFI partition tried both EFI (cannot select for loader) and Bios Grub (selected for loader)
Grub error on both
- A swap partition
- A root "/" partition

LL files/OS appear to install ("/" has typical LL file structure) - Grub portion fails...

firenice03,

In case you weren't aware, you need to set a mount point for the "EFI System Partition" during install -- I think that might be why grub failed to install.  On partition selection page after choosing "Something else", highlight the 550MB FAT32 partition, click "Change" button, then:
Then you should be able to select "/dev/mmcblk1pt1" as "Device for boot loader installation" near bottom of window and grub should install properly.


Incidentally, (just for information purposes), attempting to install grub to that partition as "bios_grub" probably failed for one of several possible reasons (most likely one being listed first below):
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: Jerry on January 22, 2016, 05:05:28 AM
firenice03, please give what gold_finger suggested a go.
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: firenice03 on January 22, 2016, 07:54:06 AM
I've created 3 partitions on the disk... Screenshots after the error
- The EFI partition tried both EFI (cannot select for loader) and Bios Grub (selected for loader)
Grub error on both
- A swap partition
- A root "/" partition

LL files/OS appear to install ("/" has typical LL file structure) - Grub portion fails...

firenice03,

In case you weren't aware, you need to set a mount point for the "EFI System Partition" during install -- I think that might be why grub failed to install.  On partition selection page after choosing "Something else", highlight the 550MB FAT32 partition, click "Change" button, then:
  • "Use as" = EFI boot partition, (or similar wording).  I believe selecting that will automatically make installer know that the mount point for the partition is "/boot/efi"; but if you do see a separate box for "Mount point" after filling in the "Use as" box, fill-in as seen below.
  • "Mount point" = /boot/efi  (this step may or may not show -- see above)
  • Keep size as-is
  • Hit "OK"
Then you should be able to select "/dev/mmcblk1pt1" as "Device for boot loader installation" near bottom of window and grub should install properly.


Incidentally, (just for information purposes), attempting to install grub to that partition as "bios_grub" probably failed for one of several possible reasons (most likely one being listed first below):
  • If you're live dvd/usb is booted in UEFI/EFI mode, it won't use a "bios_grub" partition, even if you try to point to it.  That partition is only used for Legacy/Bios mode installs to a GPT disk.
  • If you were booted in Legacy/Bios mode for the install (doubtful in your case), that partition needs to be "unformatted", (not FAT32), and the "bios_grub" flag needs to be set on it.
  • In Legacy/Bios mode install, "Device for boot loader installation" should be directed to the MBR of the drive, not to the "bios_grub" partition.  (Eg.  to "/dev/mmcblk1" in your screenshot, not "/dev/mmcblk1pt1".)

Thanks gold-finger.. I'll give it a few more go's = I won't be able to get back to it till this evening..

I tried installing as both EFI and Bios_Grub from the options...
- If I recall when choosing the EFI option, it didn't allow me to enter a mount point (/boot/efi) and I believe "/dev/mmcblk1pt1" wasn't a choice for "Device for boot loader installation"
The screenshots were after the error and restarting the installer ...

I tried various ways; even a clean wipe, formatting the efi partition in Windows assuring a gpt/efi partition was wrote to the disk..

I'll capture screenshots of the configuration as I move through the installer...

Thanks again!!
 

Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: gold_finger on January 22, 2016, 12:50:44 PM
You need to make sure the dvd/usb gets booted in UEFI/EFI mode first, otherwise UEFI install will fail.


Boot the dvd/usb, open a terminal and run this command:
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ls /sys/firmware

If you see "efi" listed in the output, then you're booted in UEFI mode and can go ahead with install attempt.  If not, then you need to reboot and look for an option that boots the dvd/usb in UEFI mode.
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: firenice03 on January 22, 2016, 01:59:01 PM
You need to make sure the dvd/usb gets booted in UEFI/EFI mode first, otherwise UEFI install will fail.


Boot the dvd/usb, open a terminal and run this command:
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ls /sys/firmware

If you see "efi" listed in the output, then you're booted in UEFI mode and can go ahead with install attempt.  If not, then you need to reboot and look for an option that boots the dvd/usb in UEFI mode.

Yes I confirmed the output, efi was listed.. I checked BIOS prior to install, efi is the only available option..
I can turn secure boot off (which was done), thus allowing the LiveUSB to boot..

For example - I have the multi-boot live usb, which I added the "LL efi build" iso to it; bios would not recognize that stick as a bootable option. My guess is that there wasn't an efi/gpt partition - FWIW that stick was built with "Yumi".
The stick that works use, was built with "win32diskimage" and only contains the "LL efi build" iso.

I'll grab a few screen shots of the BIOS options - if you think it would be helpful (or for future install documentation).

Thanks

*Update*
The more I think about.. I think the missing mount point "/boot/efi" may be the wrench.. I'm almost certain the mount point wasn't available to manually enter.. Again from memory...

Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: firenice03 on January 22, 2016, 05:27:15 PM
This will be a long post w/ lots of pics...
So tried installing...

EFI=Firmware
Command line output

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ls /sys/firmware
(http://i.imgur.com/kNnDss6.png)


Started off - Wiped drive to let the installer handle
(http://i.imgur.com/xQ2yf6b.png)


Creating EFI 2 pics (note: EXT4=mount point available | EFI=no mount point)
EXT4 was just to compare - EFI was choosen
(http://i.imgur.com/n2L18Zg.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/gMGeg4h.png)


Created swap and root "/" 2 pics
(http://i.imgur.com/Krfw8C9.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/Ikee7Dk.png)


Summary
(http://i.imgur.com/vSVa79Q.png)


Prompt to Write
(http://i.imgur.com/8qFIEAk.png)


Error and Install Crashed 2 pics
(http://i.imgur.com/7snytNf.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/SVGGF6A.png)


Re-ran installer and gparted to compare partitions:
(http://i.imgur.com/YRaTLTH.png)


Other options available to "Use as:"
(http://i.imgur.com/zVg6TkA.png)
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: gold_finger on January 22, 2016, 06:05:27 PM
Looks like you're doing everything correctly, so not sure what is going wrong.

One thing I can't tell from pics is whether you formatted the drive you're installing to as GPT or not.  It must be GPT for UEFI installs.  Enter this command and see what it says for the LL drive:

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sudo parted --list | grep 'Table'
Report back with what is shows for BOTH the Windows and the LL drive please.

I can't remember if you said what type of machine you're installing to or not, but if it's a small tablet type system or maybe even some small netbook it's possible that you're dealing with a 32-bit UEFI instead of the much more common 64-bit UEFI.  If that's the case LL won't install.  It's pretty rare, but there are machines with a 32-bit UEFI and a 32-bit Windows install on them.  Best way to tell what you've got is to boot into Windows and open up system info section of control center (or whatever they call it).  It should tell you what type of Windows is installed.

If it's 32-bit Windows, then forget about trying to install LL -- it won't work.

If it's 64-bit Windows, then I'm not sure what is causing the problem (assuming the drive you're installing to is formatted as GPT).  Maybe try again and this time tick the box to format the LL EFI Boot partition.  (I noticed the box wasn't ticked in your prior screenshot.  Honestly I doubt that will solve it, but who knows?)
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: firenice03 on January 22, 2016, 07:06:58 PM
It looks like true 64.. Win 10.. Here's some screenshots while I boot back to the LiveUSB..

(http://i.imgur.com/lKLtUQ1.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/Mm74aFD.png)

Sorry they're Windoz screens  :-[
I'll check the table in LL too, to confirm...

**Update**
Both disk tables in LL show the 2 as GPT.
Checked installer - for the EFI partition, format is grayed/not selectable...
I'm wiping the USB out and redoing, if perhaps something is corrupt within...
I'll keep y'all posted :)
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: firenice03 on January 22, 2016, 08:59:51 PM
Well think I may have completely over thought this one?? ?? ??  >:(  ::)

Googled the error, looks like a connection to the Internet resolves it.. Sadly, I looked at that every time thinking I'm saving a few minutes on the install and I'll do after..

I should have confirmation here in a few... Upside if it corrects it, its an easy fix and definitely one for the books... 8)




Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: firenice03 on January 22, 2016, 10:32:46 PM
No joy..  Failed at the same, installing Grub2..
Back to the drawing board :)

I'll update if any positive results...
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: Jerry on January 22, 2016, 11:03:53 PM
Thanks for taking the time here firenice03, all information is valuable :)
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: firenice03 on January 23, 2016, 07:11:26 PM
Thanks Jerry!
Been alil under the weather today, but to update with where I'm at..

I wanted to rule out it wasn't a failing USB or the card I was installing to. So I tried installing MINT.. It took on the 1st attempt. Same partitions, only formated root on install.
Next I'll try downloading a freash copy of LL (athough checksum was correct) to see if anything changes.

**Update**
I installed the XFCE version of Mint 17.3, if the info helps..
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: firenice03 on January 25, 2016, 09:23:35 PM
So.. Another attempt at LL this evening... Again failed at same "Grub2 Error"
Re-downloaded, checked the checksum, burned the USB..
Same partitions only formatting root..  Same I did with Mint..
After the error I received the message it installed and I can continue to test... But after  reboot grub loads to a prompt...

There error received...
(http://i.imgur.com/7snytNf.png)

Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: firenice03 on January 27, 2016, 09:13:20 AM
Ok so the beat goes on.. I tried at least 3 times to install last night... Since Mint installed I assumed LL should as well in a similar fashion...

I used a second card thinking maybe I could copy/image Mint's EFI partition from the 1st to the LL EFI partition..
(This was a thought, not sure if possible)
1st attempt at install - straight through, used the installer - failed same way as every other time...
I thought since Grub is broke why not just try reinstall it...

So I looked over the forums here and google..
Mostly all options pointed to mounting root and boot partitions from the LiveUSB and updating/installing grub..

I'm going to list the steps and errors/messages as best I recall - I had screen shots but forgot to move them from the Live environment.. oops - it was late  ::)

Following the direction from:
https://www.linuxliteos.com/forums/installing-linux-lite/help!!!!-deleted-grub-by-mistake/msg14247/#msg14247
 
I tried
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sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt/boot /dev/sdXIt attempted to install grub but the i386 version in which failed with a "blocks" error message. I knew it would fail = wrong architecture, thought maybe it would see which version I needed and install appropriate (it was a shot)

The I attempted various attempts to install "grub-efi-amd64" using apt-get commands..
I was prompted to install (a 3 packages and some dependencies) and would use 'XX'kb space..
Prompted they were not verified (I think) and continued..
Then it appeared as if it was connecting to the repo's but failed as it couldn't connect (although internet was connected)..
Ultimately unmounted all and rebooted... - still as expected it didn't boot.

So I googled a bit more and thought I'd reinstall once more (if anything wiping out what I had attempted).
Install process went the same way except this time it hung on installing 'grub2' (typically it failed within 5 mins) it hung for a solid 20minutes.. Then it carried on, continued through configuring grub/checking for other OS's through to the end.
Rebooted and like magic LL loaded.

Not sure - what or why...
I plan to reinstall again on the original card as well as 'final' card after more testing...
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: firenice03 on January 27, 2016, 08:02:20 PM
So popped in the original card, ran the installer and it worked!!..??..
Not that I'm not thrilled..but no changes? - Formatted root and installed..

- What install options you choose (check boxes on the installer etc)
Did not choose to install updates  -  Was connected to internet
Something else = 3 partitions efi - root - swap

- Whether this is a dual boot test or single boot (installing Linux Lite UEFI only on your computer)
Dual boot w/Win10 on separate disk
- Any errors that occur during the install: please keep an eye on the installer, see where it crashes
No errors this time :)
- Install using another keyboard selection, eg. English UK keyboard
English/English keyboard (defaults)
- Install in another language, eg. German or French etc.
N/A yet
- Screenshot any crashes or error messages
N/A

Couple minor issues I'm seeing:
In LLCC ran updates - updates installed - clicked refresh.. The 'Software Updates' has update listed from 2016-01-02 - Didn't refresh to current (even after closing)
WiFi connection desperately needs a driver update speed between 1-48Mb/s hanging closer to 11...
- Nothing in Install drivers - so I'll need to research (knew this going in) though LiveUSB was a bit better...

With testing efi and 2.8 beta (and be a little groggy - headcold)....
Which LL version is this (efi build)? The file says 2.8 but everything I see in LL is 2.6???
Everything looks EFI, bootmanager etc...

A few outputs:
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dad@LL-Kangaroo:~$ uname -a
Linux LL-Kangaroo 3.13.0-76-generic #120-Ubuntu SMP Mon Jan 18 15:59:10 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

dad@LL-Kangaroo:~$ cat /etc/llver
Linux Lite 2.6

dad@LL-Kangaroo:~$ lsb_release -a
No LSB modules are available.
Distributor ID: Ubuntu
Description: Linux Lite 2.6
Release: 14.04
Codename: trusty

dad@LL-Kangaroo:~$ more /etc/issue.net
Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS

dad@LL-Kangaroo:~$ getconf LONG_BIT
64
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: melb1938 on February 01, 2016, 12:41:30 PM
I would like to volunteer to run your test software. My other computer is a HP 17-117DX Pavilion with Windows 8.1 and UEFI laptop with 8 GB ram 750 GB HD running windows and Linux Mint both running on GPT partitions and Uefi. I have image backups of all my software so am not worried about losing anything. I have borked my system many times and have installed several different Uefi aware Distros on that computer. The HP laptop Uefi has a system (uefi) That returns to windows after every boot and you have to use a work around in order for it to use a linux distro as the default. if interested in what I had to do using grub here is a link to my Blog: https://pctechman.wordpress.com/2014/09/13/dual-boot-windows-8-1-with-linux-grub-boot-order-hp-laptop/ (https://pctechman.wordpress.com/2014/09/13/dual-boot-windows-8-1-with-linux-grub-boot-order-hp-laptop/). I am now running windows 10 with Linux mint cinnamon on it and would like to be able to run LL on it..
Mel B
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: firenice03 on February 07, 2016, 04:13:18 PM
Thought I'd update.. I got a better/faster sd card UHS-1 which does seem speedier...
I can replicate the grub error by not being connected to the internet, especially with this wifi only setup.
Shouldnt be a big deal, though something to be aware of..
Ran the same set up as previous installs.
As far as the EFI setup even with multiple installs no problems thus far.
Note that in the EFI boot menu, it lists as Ubuntu, not Linux Lite.
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: Jerry on February 07, 2016, 07:03:28 PM
firenice03 you need to be connected to the internet for this build. Thank you for your excellent reports.

@melb1938 testing has closed for this build, will send you the details of the new build when it happens, cheers.
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: ALPERDURUKAN on February 08, 2016, 12:58:30 AM
I would like to help testing  :)
Edit: Oh, just saw that the testing has closed. I am now using LL 2.6 with UEFI through some modifications.
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: ohjrson on February 13, 2016, 10:51:21 PM
Hi Jerry
      Over Christmas I got a New Laptop. An Acer brand AMD 64 Pretty much minimal Options. it has no CD and only USB and an SD slot. It is also a quad core. It was fairly cheap and on "Sale" as one of their bare bones laptop.

It does have the UEFI boot (with the option to go Legacy) and is also running windows 10.

I would like to install LL 2.8 on this along side Windows. (As of course there is no cd or dvd or anything to reinstall should you need to, only rescue or back up.) Please keep me informed of the results of this testing as I would like to try it in my new lappy.

If you need my email just let me know.

Thanks. 
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: m654321 on February 16, 2016, 01:50:23 PM
Is the inclusion of UEFI support anticipated at some stage within the LL3.0 series or is that a bit too early?

Mike
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: Jerry on February 16, 2016, 02:42:29 PM
Is the inclusion of UEFI support anticipated at some stage within the LL3.0 series or is that a bit too early?

Mike

Too early.
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: Teddy on February 16, 2016, 03:48:55 PM
UEFI Secure Boot support probably won't be included in LL 3.0. It will need to be added sooner or later, that's for sure, for those who want a no fuss install on a UEFI Secure Boot machine preinstalled with Windows 8 + versions thereafter. On my HP Laptop (Pavilion TouchSmart 11-e015dx) Ubuntu worked with the UEFI boot option via USB. Linux Lite has run this machine for a few years in Legacy BIOS mode (some machines call this mode "CSM"). On some HP machines, the UEFI firmware defaults to UEFI first, and then Legacy if nothing is found, and I have not found an option to override this behaviour (It even says somewhere in the owner's manual, I vaguely remember) I'm not sure how the UEFI support is implemented in regular desktop Ubuntu and a handful of other distros, maybe a specialized kernel provides that support?


More than likely by the time Linux Lite 4 comes around, UEFI support will have been tested rigorously and working.



Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: ohjrson on April 03, 2016, 03:58:45 PM
OK Jerry
Here is my report. After lets say attaining a Dell Poweredge T310 with 2.4 ghz quadcore processors and 8 gs of ram with the ability to hot swap 4 HDD I have successfully installed LL 2.8 into the machine.

Mind you I had to figure out which one HDD I installed it into once I did get it installed onto a hrad drive. I can tell you it was really quite simple once I put some thought into it.

1. I did not keep track of which HDD were #1 #2 etc.. when I pulled them out and reformatted them for use on another machine. So I probably had them in wrong.

2. Everything installed just fine through the live DVD that I burned directly from an ISO...Which the Live DVD worked just great as well on its own before rebooting into the chaos that awaited me...  ( as I mentioned I was not paying attention to the order of the HDDs.)

3. Once I excluded the HDDs one by one and found the HDD that had the installed LL 2.8 in it i'm assuming that since LL 2.8 was the only OS that the UEFI could find it opened and ran the software. (just fine I might add)

4. I did have to exclude the Google Chrome repository in the updates to get the updates to download but once that was done everything worked just like it was supposed to. (Note-Maybe take the google chrome repository completely out of the list.) Nothing else impeded the updates.

That being said I do need some help with installing Windows 7 into a virtual machine on this system as I have never used virtual machine or installed in one before.

So far aside from not having a sound card on this machine everything works ok. THe only thing I have an issue with is the flickering that the mouse does when used. I'm not sure if this is a setting related issue or what but it is getting annoying. The mouse is constantly flickering along with periodic full screen flickers as well... (Any ideas?) I have tried to look under ettings to resolve this but can not seem to find it. I also see that the screen edges are not right either. How can I change the sizes of that... or align them up right. I will include a screen shot on the next post as I am on a different machine right now.

Thanks.


Oh Snap... How do I put pics or screen shots in here again?

Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: LL-user on April 03, 2016, 05:13:03 PM
Hi ohjrson,

You can use:
https://imgur.com/ (https://imgur.com/)
or
http://www.pixhost.org/ (http://www.pixhost.org/)

gold_finger has provided an excellent manual:
https://www.linuxliteos.com/forums/tutorials/forum-interface-how-to-post-pics-links-code/msg2469/#msg2469 (https://www.linuxliteos.com/forums/tutorials/forum-interface-how-to-post-pics-links-code/msg2469/#msg2469)

Hope that helps :)
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: ohjrson on April 03, 2016, 05:50:55 PM
Ahh yes... Many thanks to you LL-User
Here is the link
http://i.imgur.com/ZZKvg63.jpg?1
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: m654321 on April 04, 2016, 05:14:24 AM
Quote
Note that in the EFI boot menu, it lists as Ubuntu, not Linux Lite.

@firenice03 (quoting post #77)
Section E in the following tutorial explains how to edit this back to Linux Lite, though this makes no difference to the functioning of the UEFI build.
https://www.linuxliteos.com/forums/tutorials/tutorial-how-to-set-up-a-winll-dual-boot-with-uefi-fully-enabled/
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: firenice03 on April 04, 2016, 09:17:42 AM
Quote
Note that in the EFI boot menu, it lists as Ubuntu, not Linux Lite.

@firenice03 (quoting post #77)
Section E in the following tutorial explains how to edit this back to Linux Lite, though this makes no difference to the functioning of the UEFI build.
https://www.linuxliteos.com/forums/tutorials/tutorial-how-to-set-up-a-winll-dual-boot-with-uefi-fully-enabled/

Correct... but this was testing the UEFI build, noting what we saw / how it installed.. Should this want to be updated before the final ISO is published to the world  ;D..


This maybe more @Jerry
Has testing for UEFI been concluded or are you still looking for feedback?
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: Jerry on April 04, 2016, 10:58:48 AM
We're all done, thanks folks :)

Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: ohjrson on April 04, 2016, 09:49:35 PM
Ok so all done?
What were the results then?
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: Jerry on April 05, 2016, 01:20:50 AM
Ok so all done?
What were the results then?


The DVD appears to boot and install LL on a very basic level.

Will UEFI be in 3.x series? This is still undecided. In this thread alone, there were a myriad of issues experienced by just a handful of users, this gives me concern over the level of support needed if I include UEFI in the future. It's certainly less hassle and much easier to just tell people to enable legacy BIOS. If some folks insist on a UEFI build, I can just make this test build public, it is still supported for a few more years.
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: ohjrson on April 05, 2016, 10:38:57 PM
Excellent. Where can I get a copy of that ISO? Please? Thanks.
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: Jerry on April 06, 2016, 12:51:35 AM
The testing has finished. As I'm undecided still on UEFI support, I won't be making the iso public. If I did, I've have to give support on an undecided matter.
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: Teddy on April 06, 2016, 02:39:28 AM
UEFI Is a very touchy subject. It would be wise to pospone the boot method. However, LL will have to eventually conform to booting to UEFI with no modifications to the boot options for non tech people. One way around everything is to offer a 64-bit UEFI enabled iso and a regular 64-bit iso, but that will create more confusion for new users.

Typed & Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note 3 [SM-N900T] using the Tapatalk Android app.

Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: m654321 on April 06, 2016, 04:17:40 AM
If LL were to have integrated UEFI support, whose going to pay Microsoft for the license, given that no payment is involved (at present) for the use of LL?
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: avj on April 06, 2016, 09:25:04 AM
I don't believe it is necessary to pay microsoft for anything, as there are techniques to build the necessary certificates.

http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/take-control-your-pc-uefi-secure-boot?page=0,0

http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/take-control-your-pc-uefi-secure-boot?page=0,1
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: hughparker1 on June 11, 2016, 12:46:27 PM
The testing has finished. As I'm undecided still on UEFI support, I won't be making the iso public. If I did, I've have to give support on an undecided matter.
Hi, I have just installed Linux Lite 3 64-bit on my old DELL Vostro 1520 and it running great.  Version 3 is a great product.

I would also like to install it on my new DELL Inspiron 5559 which has Skylake processor and wondered if you had any idea when UEFI will be supported. Is this still quite far away ?
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: Jerry on November 04, 2016, 02:03:56 PM
Anyone wanting to use a as is where is test build of Linux Lite 3.2 with UEFI support can get it here for a limited time - http://repo.linuxliteos.com/uefitests/3.2/

Checksums: (MD5 & SHA256)

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672576ffb351744f66c4c141564685fb linux-lite-3.2-uefitest1a-64bit.iso
dd35454a49cfe711ffb5ea94afb972d0c2c889a76ea05419bd0ab7d21b234dad linux-lite-3.2-uefitest1a-64bit.iso

Notes:

- Some Grub menu items are missing/not working
- You should be able to upgrade from within Series 3.x once this is installed
- You will need an internet connection to install this
- ISO is larger than 1.1Gb so it may not work on all BIOS's
- Lite Widget not showing Updates Status
- Please check the rest of this thread before asking any questions

This is no indication that LL will start producing Linux Lite with UEFI support, this is simply an experimental project and perhaps the only chance to get a Series 3 UEFI build. Build will be up for a couple of weeks, then deleted.

(http://i.imgur.com/NaHBu34.png)
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: firenice03 on November 04, 2016, 02:35:45 PM
I can certainly give it a try; I happen to still be running the UEFI 2.8 version on the Kangaroo...   8)
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: Jerry on November 04, 2016, 02:48:05 PM
Cool :)

Sent from my Phone using Tapatalk

Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: hughparker1 on November 05, 2016, 08:21:59 PM
Anyone wanting to use a as is where is test build of Linux Lite 3.2 with UEFI support can get it here for a limited time - http://repo.linuxliteos.com/uefitests/3.2/
Thanks for the opportunity to try this UEFI build.  I have installed LL3 on several older BIOS laptops and computers and it is a great operating system.  I have been hoping that a UEFI version would be released.

I now installed it on my new UEFI DELL laptop.
Spec is as follows....

Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6500U CPU @ 2.50GHz, 2592 Mhz, 1 Core(s), 2 Logical Processor(s)
Integrated Graphics Processor: Intel(R) HD Graphics 520
Discrete Graphics Processor: AMD Radeon R5 M335

The installation was perfect, not trouble at all. I'm very happy with the result.  Thanks again for a great product. Am I right in thinking it will be able to get any new updates on 3.x going forward?
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: Jerry on November 05, 2016, 08:51:45 PM


Am I right in thinking it will be able to get any new updates on 3.x going forward?

See Note 2 in my post. Cheers.

Sent from my Phone using Tapatalk

Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: firenice03 on November 16, 2016, 07:47:50 PM
Sorry Jerry it took me so long to install... With the little time I had I messed around for too long trying to back up the 2.8 UEFI test, couldn't get Redo Backup to boot on the Kangaroo.. but anyway...

So I installed to the Kangaroo.. UEFI only (no legacy) SecureBoot = Enabled
Dual boot with Win10; LL3.2 installed to MMC card.

I created a USB (in Windows) with a GPT partition (not sure if it was necessary but..) via Win32disk and the LL64bit ISO..
Was able to boot to the USB with secureboot enabled.
Live Environment came right up and dove into the install.

All options were "default" with the exception of "Something Else" (didn't download updates nor 3rd party) - English locales and connected to WiFI (wifi only for this device).

For the something else I reused the partitions I created earlier in the thread for 2.8  I'll screenshot them..
Formating "/" and swap, leaving /home and the fat32 boot..

Install was SMOOTH, straight forward no hiccups. I did notice the WiFi dropped to 1Mb/s during the copy process - I only mention as we encountered the error in 2.8..

I installed the the boot manager to mmcblk1... Which may have been installed to another location as I noticed there is a second ubuntu listed in the boot options. I'll double check after a reboot. **UPDATE* no, I have 2 ubuntu listed LOL - no biggie**

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dad@LL-Kangaroo:~$ cat /etc/llver
Linux Lite 3.2
dad@LL-Kangaroo:~$ uname -a
Linux LL-Kangaroo 4.4.0-45-generic #66-Ubuntu SMP Wed Oct 19 14:12:37 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

I'll keep poking around let me know if you need anything tested.
I've got a 2nd 64 bit (HP) I can try this weekend..


  (http://imgur.com/N9w5VO4l.png)
 (http://i.imgur.com/N9w5VO4.png)

*UPDATE#2*
Ran updates - kernel was updated  
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dad@LL-Kangaroo:~$ uname -a
Linux LL-Kangaroo 4.4.0-47-generic #68-Ubuntu SMP Wed Oct 26 19:39:52 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: firenice03 on November 16, 2016, 10:35:49 PM
So far so good..
What I've noticed..

  (http://imgur.com/0scon6Tl.png) (http://i.imgur.com/0scon6T.png)

So far so good..
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: Jerry on November 17, 2016, 12:42:18 AM
Thank you firenice03, it's great to know this build installs with both Secure Boot and UEFI enabled.
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: m654321 on February 01, 2017, 12:01:12 PM
Anyone wanting to use a as is where is test build of Linux Lite 3.2 with UEFI support can get it here for a limited time - http://repo.linuxliteos.com/uefitests/3.2/ (http://repo.linuxliteos.com/uefitests/3.2/)

I downloaded this uefi version of LL3.2 and attempted the dual-boot with win10 on my UEFI computer (setup1 in sig). The install stopped at the stage of the grub2 package with the following message coming up on the screen:

"The 'grub-efi-amd64-signed' package failed to install into /target/. Without the GRUB bootloader, the installed system will not boot".

When I re boot it goes straight into win10, with no grubscreen, as expected from the message.
Any ideas? I did follow the Linux Mint tutorial (that Jerry posted for the LL/Win dual-boot) to the letter - I have repeated the process 3 times with the same result each time.  When installing, secure boot is disabled and CSM enabled.  Can't see what I'm doing wrong - any help/advice much appreciated...

Cheers
Mike
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: firenice03 on February 01, 2017, 01:05:49 PM
I ran into a Grub error while testing - majority of the time it was due to internet connection loss. On my Kangaroo its wifi only but the default driver would disconnect, I since run a usb hardwire ethernet port with no issues.

Another thing to be aware of disable Fast Boot in Win10 (its in the control panel settings).

*Update Link to disable *
http://www.howtogeek.com/243901/the-pros-and-cons-of-windows-10s-fast-startup-mode/
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: m654321 on February 02, 2017, 04:18:05 AM
I ran into a Grub error while testing - majority of the time it was due to internet connection loss. On my Kangaroo its wifi only but the default driver would disconnect, I since run a usb hardwire ethernet port with no issues.

Another thing to be aware of disable Fast Boot in Win10 (its in the control panel settings).

*Update Link to disable *
http://www.howtogeek.com/243901/the-pros-and-cons-of-windows-10s-fast-startup-mode/ (http://www.howtogeek.com/243901/the-pros-and-cons-of-windows-10s-fast-startup-mode/)
Many thanks for your reply firenice03.
When I installed linux-lite-3.2-uefitest1a-64bit.iso, there was no problem with WiFi - I checked and repeated the installation using a wired connection to the router (your kind suggestion) but it made no difference.  As I'm installing in CSM mode (Legacy), fast boot appears to be disabled by default, so unfortunately it's not that one either. 

Much as I would wish otherwise, I still need to have a linux dual-boot with Windows OS, as I'm unable to do everything I want to do in linux.  One example is playing my recorded videos/TV programmes on my laptop through our Samsung TV, so that all the family can comfortably view them together on a large enough screen.  With Windows OS this is a straightforward plug-and-play setup, Windows OS instantly recognising the external monitor and setting the picture resolution to optimum quality and full screen size, the sound playing through the TV. I've wasted a lot of time messing around with this in Linux Lite (as well as with Linux MInt and Ubuntu Studio ) - that's not a complaint just the reality of my inexperience - but without success. In a linux-only system (at least with the three distros I've just mentioned),  the laptop screenview doesn't fit the TV display and the sound plays only through the laptop.  I'm sure there is a way to do this in linux but I don't have the knowledge or any more time to fiddle with this at the present time, due to work and family commitments.

So, somewhat disappointingly and with much regret,  I've had to change from Linux Lite 3.2 to Linux Mint 18 (cinnamon) on my main laptop (i.e. setup1 in sig), in order to set up a Win10/LM18 dual-boot on my UEFI laptop.  I have to say installation of LM for the UEFI dual-boot was straightforward and subsequent operation appears to be very smooth, either with or without secure boot enabled. I didn't experience the problem I reported in post #106 with installing  linux-lite-3.2-uefitest1a-64bit in a UEFI  dual-boot with Win10.  So it would appear that the problem lies with linux-lite-3.2-uefitest1a-64bit compatibility with the laptop mentioned. 

Again, thanks firenice03 for your interest - much appreciated.
Any more thoughts - just keep them coming...

Regards
Mike
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: bitsnpcs on February 02, 2017, 11:11:54 AM
Hello,
have you tried adding the files into Kodi and send to the tv ?
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: m654321 on February 02, 2017, 11:23:19 AM
Hello,
have you tried adding the files into Kodi and send to the tv ?

No, I haven't.  Does it have a range of options for external displays (in this case a Samsung TV)? I've never used Kodi - how does it work?

Mike
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: bitsnpcs on February 02, 2017, 04:46:42 PM
Hello Mike,

These are  the settings for display (http://kodi.wiki/view/Settings/System/Display)

Kodi should be full screen automatically on a tv.

Regarding Samsung, my cousin uses a Samsung smart tv, he has Kodi on his mobile phone, he connects the phone to his home wifi, then casts the screen directly to the smart tv, it plays full screen HD movies.
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: m654321 on February 03, 2017, 10:04:50 AM
Hello Mike,

These are  the settings for display (http://kodi.wiki/view/Settings/System/Display)

Kodi should be full screen automatically on a tv.

Regarding Samsung, my cousin uses a Samsung smart tv, he has Kodi on his mobile phone, he connects the phone to his home wifi, then casts the screen directly to the smart tv, it plays full screen HD movies.
Many thanks for your ideas - I'll give them a try - I did eventually get LL to play videos through my Samsung TV this morning using VLC - I might post a hot-tip on this a bit later...
Thanks again bitsnpcs

Mike
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: bitsnpcs on February 03, 2017, 12:01:29 PM
You're welcome Mike  :)
I look forward to the hot tip on VLC it sounds good.
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: firenice03 on February 03, 2017, 01:49:00 PM
@m654321
Mike.. Which partition are you putting the boot installer?
In the "Something else" its the lower portion of the screen you pick where the bootloader/grub is to go..

I believe it needs to go into a GPT UEFI formatted partition; if I recall a few hundred mb in size... or in the same where windows is located..
I can try to check mine, but it may be a few...
 
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: m654321 on February 09, 2017, 06:03:15 AM
@m654321
Mike.. Which partition are you putting the boot installer?
In the "Something else" its the lower portion of the screen you pick where the bootloader/grub is to go..

I believe it needs to go into a GPT UEFI formatted partition; if I recall a few hundred mb in size... or in the same where windows is located..
I can try to check mine, but it may be a few...
 
Many thanks for your reply, firenice03. Yes... I take your point, though in 'Something Else' I had already installed the LL bootloader to /dev/sda2 where the Windows EFI partition was (rather than /dev/sda as used in the Legacy install) - I think this was the correct thing to do?  Yes, GPT disk used to allow UEFI/Secure boot install.   Though I appear unable to dualboot LL3.2 UEFItestbuild with Win10, I am able to dualboot Linux Mint 18 with Win10 with UEFI/Secure boot enabled.
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: firenice03 on February 09, 2017, 09:28:28 AM
Many thanks for your reply, firenice03. Yes... I take your point, though in 'Something Else' I had already installed the LL bootloader to /dev/sda2 where the Windows EFI partition was (rather than /dev/sda as used in the Legacy install) - I think this was the correct thing to do?  Yes, GPT disk used to allow UEFI/Secure boot install.   Though I appear unable to dualboot LL3.2 UEFItestbuild with Win10, I am able to dualboot Linux Mint 18 with Win10 with UEFI/Secure boot enabled.
hhhmmm - I'll look at mine and see if I can recall anything (I forgot I was going to check).. The only thing I may have done differently is install LL3.2 to another disk (SDCard) vs. the main..

I re-read another post.. you mentioned
Code: [Select]
As I'm installing in CSM mode (Legacy); perhaps this?? You shouldn't need Legacy since you're using the UEFI version (although I'd assume it should work)..
You can leave UEFI enabled; Secureboot probably will need disabled to boot from USB (but could try enabled)..
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: trinidad on February 09, 2017, 10:00:50 AM
Hi Mike,

Yes, I have heard that Mint 18+ has incorporated rEFInd into their OS and all seems to be well for UEFI dual boots with Windows 10 on mid-dated hardware (not older than P4 and not newer than early I7 I think this means) Not so much for Ubu LTS without rEFInd, but UEFI issues are beginning to be resolved for Linux in general.

TC
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: m654321 on February 09, 2017, 11:04:21 AM
Hi Mike,

Yes, I have heard that Mint 18+ has incorporated rEFInd into their OS and all seems to be well for UEFI dual boots with Windows 10 on mid-dated hardware (not older than P4 and not newer than early I7 I think this means) Not so much for Ubu LTS without rEFInd, but UEFI issues are beginning to be resolved for Linux in general.

TC

From what I've seen, most of the major linux distributions now seem to come with UEFI support (and have done for a while) though Zorin seems to be one of the few that don't.  Hopefully, UEFI/Secure Boot support will start being part of the LL4  distribution releases to assist those with newer PCs to dual-boot more easily with Windows OS, but obviously will leave that one up to Jerry to decide. 

I always smile when I see your initials - TC.  It reminds me of the American cartoon series 'Top Cat' I used to watch on TV many decades ago, which I'm sure you know of... :)

Mike   
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: trinidad on February 09, 2017, 11:31:47 AM
Maybe I should change them to TOC for tired old cat. Don't feel too Toppish today in the below zero wind chills here. Sitting by the fire.

Trinidad Bryant Cruz

Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: SleepyD on February 23, 2017, 01:12:49 AM
I'm glad to see you are working on UEFI compatibility Jerry.  :)

I first installed the beta without an internet connection.  It installed without a problem.  Linux Lite was not an option in Grub when I rebooted. 

I tried the install again while connected to the internet.  I received the error below.  :(

"The 'grub-efi-amd64-signed' package failed to install into /target/. Without the GRUB bootloader, the installed system will not boot".

I have 6 other Ubuntu based distros on this PC that installed and run without a problem.  They are Ubuntu 16.04, Peppermint OS 7 respin, Bodhi Linux 4.1.0, Ubuntu Mate 16.10, Zorin OS 12 beta and Black Lab Linux. 

I restored Grub by booting into Peppermint OS 7 on a flash drive and running Boot-Repair for Grub2.
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: m654321 on February 23, 2017, 02:23:45 AM
I'm glad to see you are working on UEFI compatibility Jerry.  :)

I tried the install again while connected to the internet.  I received the error below.  :(

"The 'grub-efi-amd64-signed' package failed to install into /target/. Without the GRUB bootloader, the installed system will not boot".

I have 6 other Ubuntu based distros on this PC that installed and run without a problem.  They are Ubuntu 16.04, Peppermint OS 7 respin, Bodhi Linux 4.1.0, Ubuntu Mate 16.10, Zorin OS 12 beta and Black Lab Linux. 

I restored Grub by booting into Peppermint OS 7 on a flash drive and running Boot-Repair for Grub2.

@SleepyD
...interesting that you experienced the same problem that I reported in post #106 of this thread, while installing the LL3.2 uefi testbuild, when connected to the internet.

So, if I am not connected to the internet will the  'grub-efi-amd64-signed' package install okay?
Is the internet connection the source of the problem? 
In the end, did you get the testbuild to install correctly - I'd be grateful if you could give a few more
details, as I would like the LL3.2 testbuild installed instead of Linux MInt 18, for the dualboot with win10 on my uefi laptop.

Cheers
Mike
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: SleepyD on March 04, 2017, 01:07:24 AM
Mike,

Sorry I haven't been able to get back to you sooner.

The installation completed without an error when I wasn't connected to the internet.  Unfortunately, Linux Lite was not listed in Grub.  I don't know if I could have done something to fix that.  Grub was updated from the install since my Peppermint OS 7 Grub screen was gone.

I received the error when I ran the installation connected to the internet.  I was able to boot into Linux Lite without a problem after I fixed Grub with Boot-Repair.  I wasn't able install Linux Lite software, Install Updates or run Synaptic.  I received different error messages when I tried all those.

I booted into Linux Lite tonight.  I opened Terminal and ran sudo apt update.  I then ran sudo apt upgrade.  I rebooted when it was done.

I am now able to install software via the Lite Lite Software installer and Synaptic.  I ran Install Updates without a problem.  It did not find any updates.  It could not search for updates before.

Could anybody tell me how to get the great Linux Lite boot splash?  It didn't install for some reason.  It looks much better now it's not so bright.  I saw it when I booted Linux Lite from the flash drive.
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: SleepyD on March 05, 2017, 02:42:51 AM
Ok, it was a while in between me first installing the UEFI test build after reading the forum post.  I will follow directions now.

- Is Secure Boot and or UEFI enabled on your computer

Secure Boot is not enabled, UEFI is enabled.

- What install options you choose (check boxes on the installer etc)

I just performed a standard install.  The only thing different is I clicked Something Else for partitioning.  I created a Root partition only.  I have a multi boot box so I already had a Swap partition that is shared amongst the distros.

- Whether this is a dual, multiple or single boot

I have a multi boot box with 7 different versions of Linux on it.

- Any errors that occur during the install: please keep an eye on the installer, see where it crashes

Installed Linux Lite twice.  The first I did it without an internet connection.  The install completed successfully but Linux Lite was not listed in Grub when I rebooted.

I installed Linux Lite the second time with the internet connection.  The install stopped at the stage of the grub2 package with the following message coming up on the screen:
"The 'grub-efi-amd64-signed' package failed to install into /target/. Without the GRUB bootloader, the installed system will not boot".
  I rebooted the PC and came upon the Grub Rescue screen.  I had to use Boot-Repair via a USB flash drive.  Grub was restored and Linux Lite was an option in Grub.  I booted into Linux Lite. 

- Screenshot any crashes or error messages

I wasn't able install Linux Lite software, Install Updates or run Synaptic.  I received different error messages when I tried all those.  I received the errors below.  I am having trouble for some reason getting the error screen shots link to post.  http://imgur.com/gallery/GD1eJ

-Solution

 I opened Terminal and ran sudo apt update.  I then ran sudo apt upgrade.  I rebooted when it was done.

Jerry, do you have any updates on how the UEFI version is going?
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: Jerry on March 05, 2017, 03:08:39 AM
Thank you for testing. If you Google the error message, you'll see there are any number of causes and solutions. This is just one of the reasons I detest this horrendous technology and am against it. There are no plans for any more UEFI builds this Series. Cheers.

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Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: SleepyD on March 05, 2017, 09:02:10 PM
Sorry to hear that Jerry.  :(  I'm glad I have Linux Lite on here now.  Using the cheat to install it without UEFI compatibility caused a problem on my system.  I had trouble wiping a partition to try a new version of Linux.  I had to wipe the drive and start over again.  I only use UEFI distros now.  Hopefully you can get it worked out in the next series.  I put two people on Linux and would have liked to use Linux Lite but couldn't because it's  not compatible with UEFI PCs.  You have an amazing distro.  It's not just Ubuntu with a different skin.  Thanks for the great distro.
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: bitsnpcs on March 06, 2017, 10:26:36 AM
I am using UEFI pc, not using UEFI, with Linux Lite 3.2.
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: m654321 on March 30, 2017, 02:30:22 AM
I am using UEFI pc, not using UEFI, with Linux Lite 3.2.

To have got this to work in CSM/Legacy mode on a UEFI PC, did you use an MSDOS ext4 formatted HDD? Or did you use some other formatting/drive combination for the UEFI-LLtestbuild?
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: Jerry on November 02, 2018, 09:10:45 AM
There is a test build of Linux Lite 4.2 with UEFI/Secure Boot support, and you can get it from here - http://repo.linuxliteos.com/uefitests/4.2/ (http://repo.linuxliteos.com/uefitests/4.2/)

Checksums: (MD5 & SHA256)

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9355c9fd685eb0d4a30310f43cf82304  linux-lite-4.2-uefi-64bit.iso
4d7a062045a0e066cda30577c807aa08583a73b2cb64d4393438c8886094d8a1  linux-lite-4.2-uefi-64bit.iso

Notes:

- OEM Manufacturers - run oem-config-prepare after first install.

I would like to hear from folks who can test this install with both UEFI & Secure Boot enabled on any machine (no VM tests please).

Disclaimer:

This is no indication that LL will start producing Linux Lite with UEFI support, this is simply an experimental project and perhaps the only chance to get a Series 4 UEFI build. This build is supported by the community. The community is welcome and indeed encouraged to support each other with this build.

(https://i.imgur.com/94P09nN.png)

Credit to BodhiBuilder https://sourceforge.net/projects/bodhibuilder/ (https://sourceforge.net/projects/bodhibuilder/) for providing the software, which we slightly modified to work with our operating system.
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: firenice03 on November 02, 2018, 01:32:50 PM
There is a test build of Linux Lite 4.2 with UEFI/Secure Boot support, .....

I would like to hear from folks who can test this install with both UEFI & Secure Boot enabled on any machine (no VM tests please).

I can certainly try to give this a test on the Kangaroo...
- Been meaning to upgrade the boys to 4.2 might as well do a second :)
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: Jerry on November 02, 2018, 08:57:16 PM
Great, thank you.

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Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: firenice03 on November 04, 2018, 08:46:19 PM
So as I did with past UEFI tests:  same set up/hardware as previous actually
Kangaroo is UEFI only (no legacy) SecureBoot = Enabled
Dual boot with Win10; LL4.2 installed to external MMC (SD) card.

I created a USB (in Windows) from a separate system via Win32disk and the LL4.2_64bit UEFI ISO.. I booted the USB with secureboot enabled and into the Live Environment.
I checked disks, removed old LL3.x partitions all together.

Started the Install from desktop - using the newly creates partition.
All options were "default" with the exception of "Something Else" (didn't download updates nor 3rd party) - English locales and skipped the connection to WiFI (wifi only for this device).
I installed the the boot manager to mmcblk1, the same where LL is installed.

Install was simple, straightforward and quick as usual.
After Install = Checked for updates which inform I'm up to date.
Code: [Select]
uname -r
       4.15.0-38-generic
cat /etc/llver
       Linux Lite 4.2

Need to go through my usual tweaks for this system (wifi stability) I'll poke around more, check boot process time - haven't removed the VBOX stuff but 1st boot didn't seem out of the norm...
*Update I have since removed VBox - is faster .. ~30sec boot time.

There may have been an error on boot about "failed mem for rom" that blinked up on the splash but I'll update after a reboot (I started this post)..
*Update yes "Failed to allocate mem for rom" - briefly

So far so good and yet another good looking rendition!!!

I'll post/update if you want or need any screenshots or output let me know :)

Kudo @Jerry and team!!
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: Jerry on November 04, 2018, 10:31:16 PM
Great information, many thanks @firenice03 :)
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: firenice03 on November 04, 2018, 10:42:31 PM

@Jerry Not a problem glad to help  ;D
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: Jerry on November 06, 2018, 04:20:47 AM
Bug found. /etc/apt/sources.list. folder is missing all the 3rd party repo including LL and other files. Will look into it.
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: Jerry on November 06, 2018, 04:32:03 AM
Fix attached, those that are using this UEFI build NEED this archive.

1. Open /etc/apt as root
2. Copy apt.zip to /etc/apt
3. Double click on apt.zip and extract, overwrite all when prompted.
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: Jerry on November 06, 2018, 05:54:49 AM
I've re-upped and tested a new ISO online. Original post updated.
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: Paul74 on November 06, 2018, 10:52:38 AM
Hello,

Just to bring my very little contribution...

I downloaded LL 4.2 UEFI 64-bit on USB key and try it today on the new PC (Win10) of my son, and it's working fine !

I didn't try to install on the HDD as my son is using Win10 for his job.

 
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: Jerry on November 06, 2018, 12:09:28 PM
Thanks Paul74.

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Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: firenice03 on November 06, 2018, 01:22:53 PM
Fix attached, those that are using this UEFI build NEED this archive.

1. Open /etc/apt as root
2. Copy apt.zip to /etc/apt
3. Double click on apt.zip and extract, overwrite all when prompted.
@Jerry
Probably why it kept saying I was up-to-date :)..
I can run the above and test... And if you like I can re-install with new ISO..
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: Jerry on November 06, 2018, 08:37:42 PM
If you don't mind @firenice03 the new ISO, as I've deleted the other one :)
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: firenice03 on November 06, 2018, 09:08:10 PM
If you don't mind @firenice03 the new ISO, as I've deleted the other one :)

Sure thing..
I happen to run updates - it prompted there were 28, which installed and rebooted.. I"ll download the new ISO and see if I can install tonight but may it be tomorrow afternoon..
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: Jerry on November 07, 2018, 12:32:24 AM
Thank you :)

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Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: firenice03 on November 07, 2018, 10:14:47 PM
Same set up mirroring the previous install. - Kangaroo is UEFI only (no legacy) SecureBoot = Enabled
Dual boot with Win10; LL4.2 installed to external MMC (SD) card.

Again, I created a USB (in Windows) from a separate system via Win32disk and the LL4.2_64bit UEFI ISO.. I booted the USB with secureboot enabled and into the Live Environment.
I checked disks, removed previous LL4.2 partition.

Started the Install from desktop - using the newly created partition.
All options were "default" with the exception of "Something Else" (didn't download updates nor 3rd party) - English locales and skipped the connection to WiFI .
I installed the the boot manager to mmcblk1, the same where LL is installed.

Just as the 1st time. Install was simple, straightforward and quick . The LiveUSB was the same as I used previously (reformatted) seemed to take just a bit longer longer to load.

After Install = Checked for updates 35 where ready, installed and rebooted.
Same outputs..
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uname -r
       4.15.0-38-generic
cat /etc/llver
       Linux Lite 4.2

Haven't removed the VBOX stuff but 1st boot didn't seem out of the norm... Timed at <1 1/2 minutes.

Same error on boot about "failed mem for rom" that blinked up on the splash briefly - doesn't seem to affect..

If you need any output I'll leave as is till the weekend..
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: Jerry on November 07, 2018, 10:46:32 PM
Thanks @firenice03 looks like a repeat of the first ISO install. Can you try updating please and make sure the /etc/apt dir is populated. Cheers.
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: firenice03 on November 07, 2018, 11:01:09 PM
Thanks @firenice03 looks like a repeat of the first ISO install. Can you try updating please and make sure the /etc/apt dir is populated. Cheers.
@Jerry
After install there were 35 updates available which I installed/rebooted..
Reran updates (after a reboot) showing "Currently up to date"

/etc/apt is populated; with the following..
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ls -la /etc/apt/
total 44
drwxr-xr-x   6 root root  4096 Nov  7 16:13 .
drwxr-xr-x 163 root root 12288 Nov  7 21:32 ..
drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Nov  7 21:05 apt.conf.d
drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Apr 14  2016 preferences.d
-rw-r--r--   1 root root   499 Nov  7 16:13 sources.list
drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Jun  4 01:29 sources.list.d
-rw-r--r--   1 root root  3432 Nov  7 21:05 sources.list_ORIG
-rw-r--r--   1 root root  1211 Mar 20  2018 trusted.gpg
drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Jun  4 01:29 trusted.gpg.d

Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: Jerry on November 07, 2018, 11:27:05 PM
Thanks, all looks well now in regards to updating ;)

Can you please do:

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tree /etc/apt
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: firenice03 on November 07, 2018, 11:57:08 PM
Thanks, all looks well now in regards to updating ;)

Can you please do:

Code: [Select]
tree /etc/apt

Sure :)
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tree /etc/apt
/etc/apt
├── apt.conf.d
│   ├── 00aptitude
│   ├── 00trustcdrom
│   ├── 01autoremove
│   ├── 01autoremove-kernels
│   ├── 01-vendor-ubuntu
│   ├── 10periodic
│   ├── 15update-stamp
│   ├── 20archive
│   ├── 20dbus
│   ├── 20packagekit
│   ├── 50command-not-found
│   ├── 70debconf
│   ├── 88libdvdcss-pkg -> /usr/lib/libdvd-pkg/88libdvdcss-pkg
│   ├── 99synaptic
│   ├── 99update-notifier
│   └── local
├── preferences.d
├── sources.list
├── sources.list.d
│   ├── linuxlite.list
│   ├── otto-kesselgulasch-ubuntu-gimp-xenial.list
│   └── teejee2008-ubuntu-ppa-bionic.list
├── sources.list_ORIG
├── trusted.gpg
└── trusted.gpg.d
    ├── otto-kesselgulasch_ubuntu_gimp.gpg
    ├── teejee2008_ubuntu_ppa.gpg
    ├── ubuntu-keyring-2012-archive.gpg
    └── ubuntu-keyring-2012-cdimage.gpg

4 directories, 26 files
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: Jerry on November 08, 2018, 12:19:32 AM
Looks great, ty :)
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: firenice03 on November 08, 2018, 01:54:34 PM
Looks great, ty :)
Not a problem :)
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: WytWun on November 10, 2018, 04:08:13 AM
I've re-upped and tested a new ISO online. Original post updated.

I've been able to mod this revised ISO to add 32bit UEFI boot support and have succeeded in installing the result to a BayTrail Atom based Lenovo Ideapad 100s (11") notebook.  Everything is working fine in the final install except the keyboard and touchpad :(.  The Lite live boot didn't have the keyboard and touchpad working either so I used a USB keyboard and mouse to complete the install.  This is somewhat disappointing as the Xubuntu 18.04 ISO similarly modified comes up in the live boot (haven't tried installing) with both keyboard and touchpad working fine...  I've tried to compare the dmesg from both live boots but I can't see any real discrepancy regarding the keyboard and touchpad which are I2C HID devices on this machine.  The Lite Mouse and Touchpad settings dialog shows the touchpad detected and enabled under the name ENEE3730:0001.

For those with BayTrail and CherryTrail systems requiring 32bit UEFI bootloaders, this is how I modded the Xubuntu and Lite UEFI ISOs:
- I first used the Linuxium isorespin.sh script (http://linuxiumcomau.blogspot.com/2018/05/introducing-isorespinsh-templates.html) to add the 32bit bootloader support to the Xubuntu 18.04 ISO.  I just ran the script without options, selected the ISO and the advanced option to add Grub bootloader support (which covers the 32bit requirement) in a VirtualBox Lite VM on my Windows desktop then used dd to write the resulting ISO to a USB drive connected to the VM.  This process adds 2 copies of bootia32.efi to the ISO: one in /EFI/BOOT and the other in the vfat disk image /boot/grub/efi.img.  The respin script requires xoriso (sp?) to manipulate the ISOs and I estimate a minimum of 7GB usable free space in the working file system.

- I then used Rufus (https://rufus.ie/) on the Windows desktop to write the Lite UEFI ISO to another USB drive using the default ISO Image (file copy) mode so that the unused space on the drive was accessible.

- I then copied /EFI/BOOT/bootia32.efi and /boot/grub/efi.img from the Xubuntu USB drive to the Lite UEFI USB drive (overwriting the existing /boot/grub/efi.img file on the Lite USB).

I booted the modded Xubuntu USB in the system first to confirm the 32bit loader was working, then went on with the Lite mod.  This machine had previously had the Windows 10 install wiped and replaced with a Linuxium modified Xubuntu 16.04 install which required a custom kernel to get the sound and WiFi working (if I recall correctly at least kernel 4.14 is required for full support) so its not a full test of Jerry's UEFI build, but that the install process coped with this and produced a bootable system without requiring any post-install surgery should increase confidence in this build.

The only limitation with the modded Lite install I can think of, other than the keyboard/touchpad not working on this machine, is that any necessary packages for the 32bit grub files aren't added to the apt database so if there are any updates they won't be applied.

Edit (27Dec18): the keyboard & touchpad now work - I had to add "i8042.reset" to the kernel command line as described here (https://askubuntu.com/questions/1041820/touchpad-not-working-on-ubuntu-18-04).

Edit #2 (1Sept19): I found that any update that included a new kernel would result in the keyboard and touchpad not working after the necessary reboot unless I manually use a "sudo update-grub" command after the update is completed but before rebooting.
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: freefreeno on November 25, 2018, 01:49:46 AM
inxi -F
System:    Host: josh-Lenovo-YOGA-710-14IKB Kernel: 4.15.0-39-generic x86_64
           bits: 64
           Desktop: Xfce 4.12.3 Distro: Linux Lite 4.2
Machine:   Device: un-determined System: LENOVO product: 80V4 v: Lenovo YOGA 710-14IKB serial: N/A
           Mobo: LENOVO model: LNVNB161216 v: SDK0J40709 WIN serial: N/A
           UEFI: LENOVO v: 2XCN38WW(V2.12) date: 07/10/2018
Battery    BAT1: charge: 47.5 Wh 98.2% condition: 48.4/53.0 Wh (91%)
CPU:       Dual core Intel Core i5-7200U (-MT-MCP-) cache: 3072 KB
           clock speeds: max: 3100 MHz 1: 706 MHz 2: 704 MHz 3: 700 MHz
           4: 705 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Intel HD Graphics 620
           Display Server: x11 (X.Org 1.19.6 )
           drivers: modesetting (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
           Resolution: 1920x1080@60.05hz
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 620 (Kaby Lake GT2)
           version: 4.5 Mesa 18.2.4 - padoka PPA
Audio:     Card Intel Sunrise Point-LP HD Audio driver: snd_hda_intel
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.15.0-39-generic
Network:   Card: Intel Wireless 8260 driver: iwlwifi
           IF: wlp1s0 state: up mac: 44:85:00:fe:90:a2
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 506.1GB (1.3% used)
           ID-1: USB /dev/sda model: Generic size: 256.1GB
           ID-2: /dev/sdb model: Samsung_SSD_860 size: 250.1GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 80G used: 5.9G (8%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sdb2
           ID-2: /home size: 130G used: 289M (1%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sdb3
RAID:      No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 32.0C mobo: N/A
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 197 Uptime: 2:09 Memory: 1655.1/7820.5MB
           Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.56
 josh  ~  
############################################
sensors
coretemp-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
Package id 0:  +39.0C  (high = +100.0C, crit = +100.0C)
Core 0:        +39.0C  (high = +100.0C, crit = +100.0C)
Core 1:        +38.0C  (high = +100.0C, crit = +100.0C)

pch_skylake-virtual-0
Adapter: Virtual device
temp1:        +35.5C 

iwlwifi-virtual-0
Adapter: Virtual device
temp1:        +32.0C 

I am running LL 4.2 in uefi with secure boot off and it installed fine first time around. What makes this interesting is that I am on a Yoga laptop and it is notorius for being a butthole about installing anything because it has a 32 bit uefi and it's a 64 bit PC and for some distro's that is just enough to make you spend a half of day figuring out that you would be better off to just to disable uefi all together and go with legacy but back to the point I was gonna install today anyway and I just went ahead and tried the uefi version and like I said it installed without any problems. I do got one question. Can I enable secure boot now or better to just leave secure off????I had already installed LL 4.0 and 4.2 but I was having a problem with fans running slowly all the time and never shutting down so I went on a distro hopping spree and came back today and thats when I decided to try the uefi. It really doesn't matter to me about the uefi but I do know that some people will not install without uefi support( I know weird right but anyways). Ya'll have a good and keep up the good work. One last thing do we not have a way to disable or change compistor on this distro???
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: Jerry on November 26, 2018, 12:52:10 PM
Should be ok to enable Secure Boot, you can leave it enabled during installation anyway.

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Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: loneram on December 23, 2018, 07:36:38 PM
I just installed the UEFI test version on my Asus x541na laptop with UEFI and secure boot enabled with no problems thus far. So far it is one of only a handful of os's that will boot up and run on this machine. Thanks a million for the effort. Its nice to be using LL again  :).
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: Jerry on December 23, 2018, 08:18:13 PM
I just installed the UEFI test version on my Asus x541na laptop with UEFI and secure boot enabled with no problems thus far. So far it is one of only a handful of os's that will boot up and run on this machine. Thanks a million for the effort. Its nice to be using LL again  :).


Great to hear.
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: WytWun on December 27, 2018, 08:01:54 AM
I've been able to mod this revised ISO to add 32bit UEFI boot support and have succeeded in installing the result to a BayTrail Atom based Lenovo Ideapad 100s (11") notebook.  Everything is working fine in the final install except the keyboard and touchpad :(.

I've been able to resolve the keyboard & touchpad not working on this Lenovo 100s - I had to add "i8042.reset" to the kernel command line as described here (https://askubuntu.com/questions/1041820/touchpad-not-working-on-ubuntu-18-04).  Original post also updated with solution.
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: Jerry on December 27, 2018, 08:04:05 AM
Nice one WW.

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Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: SleepyD on January 27, 2019, 10:20:08 PM
Hi Jerry.  Thank you so much for trying a UEFI build again.  :D   It worked magnificently.  I am using using UEFI with Secure Boot disabled.  It installed without a problem and updated upon first boot without a problem.   I love Linux Lite 4.2.  It's the best version so far.  As always, it's one of the best Linux distros around. 
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: Jerry on January 27, 2019, 11:21:18 PM
Thanks @SleepyD I try to produce at least one per Series, keeps the haters quiet when they say ''LL doesn't do UEFI" :) You can also install with Secure Boot on for future reference.
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: SleepyD on January 28, 2019, 02:21:32 AM
This time I even have the Linux Lite Grub screen.  Sweet!  I couldn't get that with the Linux Lite 3.0 UEFI Build Test.  Is there supposed to be a Linux Lite Plymouth screen?  I just get a blank dark screen with the spinning circle.  A customized Linux Lite Plymouth screen would be great.
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: Jerry on January 28, 2019, 02:23:34 AM
The spinning wheel is the default plymouth in both builds, it's the norm.
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: Cao2cao1 on February 04, 2019, 08:50:47 PM
Thanks! This works as described in 32bit UEFI with Secure Boot on 64bit hardware.  Its on a Dell Inspiron 14 3000-3473 with a soldered 32G eMMC memory module. 
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: Jerry on February 04, 2019, 08:55:23 PM
Thanks! This works as described in 32bit UEFI with Secure Boot on 64bit hardware.  Its on a Dell Inspiron 14 3000-3473 with a soldered 32G eMMC memory module. 

Awesome! Thanks for your feedback.
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: m654321 on March 02, 2019, 06:23:34 AM
Successfully achieved an install of LL4.2 UEFItestbuild on a Lenovo G580 i3-3110M.
Running updates, following the install went fine, after first carrying out the /etc/apt fix, outlined by Jerry in #135.  This is the first time I try any version of the LL4 series - it looks great - very well done & many thanks to Jerry & The Team  8)

Just one question: What about signing for Secure Boot?
During the initial install, I chose not to download updates / firmware at the same time. By choosing this option, i.e. install general updates & firmware updates after installation, I noticed that the Secure Boot signing option was greyed out.  Unsure here, about this signing procedure and how to do it. I've understood that if it's not done at least some software may not work - is that correct?

Your feedback is much appreciated, as ever
Mike
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: flexman on April 15, 2019, 06:07:29 PM
Finally... I didn't see UEFI release
Spend so many hours to try install regular Linux Lite, but no luck. Got stuck with MBR/grub install every time.
Now I did it with UEFI Build Linux Lite, just few clicks and vualya!!!
Love it!!!
Dell Prescision M4800 with horrible AMD Fire Pro MXXXX vga, but everything is working.
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: Jerry on April 16, 2019, 02:16:55 AM
@flexman excellent :)
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: Artim on April 16, 2019, 04:04:18 AM

Just one question: What about signing for Secure Boot?
During the initial install, I chose not to download updates / firmware at the same time. By choosing this option, i.e. install general updates & firmware updates after installation, I noticed that the Secure Boot signing option was greyed out.  Unsure here, about this signing procedure and how to do it. I've understood that if it's not done at least some software may not work - is that correct?

Downloading updates while installing has always been troublesome for me, so I just don't do it.  I don't have a UEFI machine so it's not a problem, but for those who have to have it, it might be the only option.  Perhaps one of the devs has a better answer!
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: Liz Allyn on June 18, 2019, 01:00:57 PM
Just a note to say thank you for the UEFI build. I had a heck of a time with a refurbished hp desktop until I found your Linux Lite version. Installation went perfect on the existing HDD. Goodbye Windows10!
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: Jerry on June 19, 2019, 05:03:12 AM
Just a note to say thank you for the UEFI build. I had a heck of a time with a refurbished hp desktop until I found your Linux Lite version. Installation went perfect on the existing HDD. Goodbye Windows10!

You're welcome :)
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: newtusmaximus on June 26, 2019, 06:20:02 PM
UEFI  LL 4.2 64bit  onto a USB  drive with persistency?  How  to please?.
Have balenaetcher and LL 4.2 uefi 64 bit test iso 
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: Jerry on June 26, 2019, 07:22:42 PM
Already covered here - https://www.linuxliteos.com/forums/release-announcements/install-to-usb-out-of-space/ and here - https://www.linuxliteos.com/forums/installing-linux-lite/how-to-make-a-live-usb-with-persistence-for-linux-lite/ mkusb. Please search forums first before posting. Cheers.
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: newtusmaximus on June 27, 2019, 07:53:33 AM
UEFI test LL4.2 64 bit USB  non persistent running smoothly on Dell XP18  Intel i7 8GB RAM. Wireless keyboard and mouse and wifi..
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: Bo?a Tekman on July 05, 2019, 01:33:52 PM
Hi,

First of all thanks for this great distro and community. After year of xubuntu using -of course after trying lots of distros- this great linux lite has been my first choice. Because i need to use triple boot hackintosh thinkpad (i use mojave, win 10 and linux lite on same ssd with clover bootloader), i need to use my linux in uefi. So, i ve tried this test build. It is nearly amazing. Only problem i have experienced with this had been that after some time, xfce desktop manager stops to work. I cannot click on desktop stuff with right or left click. I dont know what is causing this. Another thing i ve experienced if you wanna download xfce-goodies as asll xfce lovers, it is better to download packages individually. Not whole xfce4-goodies, because whisker menu on this distro is conflicting with the one inside of xfce goodies. Thanks for your great work again. I will be ordering some badges for support and i hope you will continue to develop uefi isos. Uefi may be not wise choice under some circumstances, but 2019 it can be only choice if you have to work with triple boot etc. Have a great weekend.
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: Jerry on July 05, 2019, 04:43:23 PM
You're welcome @Bo?a Tekman What Thinkpad year/model are you running? Also tail dmesg to see if there's any clues as to why your desktop sometimes freezes.
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: Bo?a Tekman on September 02, 2019, 09:34:34 AM
You're welcome @Bo?a Tekman What Thinkpad year/model are you running? Also tail dmesg to see if there's any clues as to why your desktop sometimes freezes.

Thanks Jerry. I handled. Can i kindly ask this uefi build can bee upgraded to 4.6?
Title: Re: UEFI Build Test
Post by: Jerry on September 02, 2019, 09:50:30 AM
You're welcome @Bo?a Tekman What Thinkpad year/model are you running? Also tail dmesg to see if there's any clues as to why your desktop sometimes freezes.

Thanks Jerry. I handled. Can i kindly ask this uefi build can bee upgraded to 4.6?
Absolutely.

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