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Title: Software Replacement for Systemback?
Post by: elelme on June 12, 2017, 04:05:57 PM
The maintainer of Systemback is too busy, it seems. Hopefully someone will proffer a suitable replacement before the next major update of Linux Lite, or before systemback is gone. Thanks to those who suggested alternatives.
Title: Re: Software Replacement for Systemback?
Post by: Artim on October 02, 2017, 08:07:21 PM
Timeshift sounds promising:  http://www.linuxandubuntu.com/home/timeshift-a-system-restore-utility-tool-review
Title: Re: Software Replacement for Systemback?
Post by: Jerry on October 02, 2017, 10:19:00 PM
I would recommend everyone have a good look at the link @RandomBoy provided above and become familiar with it. This software is high on the replacement list for Systemback in Series 4.x
Title: Re: Software Replacement for Systemback?
Post by: banko on October 03, 2017, 02:21:05 AM
Thanks,@RandomBoy  looks good.
Title: Re: Software Replacement for Systemback?
Post by: Jocklad on October 03, 2017, 07:09:09 AM
Installed from the Terminal to LL 3.6x64.

A nice gui.

Looking good.

Thanks Randomboy  :)


.................................................


Created a Snapshop and then did a restore.......worked perfectly.


The restore was done in seconds........very fast.  :)
Title: Re: Software Replacement for Systemback?
Post by: TMG1961 on October 03, 2017, 07:43:14 AM
Installed Timeshift. But got a problem. It keeps telling me that my usb stick and harddrive both dont have a linux partition. But they both do. Not sure what the problem is but its not working for me :(


Found problem. The usb stick is faulty, after removing it from laptop all worked fine. The stick has found a new home in the bin.
Now going to look for a new external hard drive later today.
Title: Re: Software Replacement for Systemback?
Post by: torreydale on October 03, 2017, 11:31:56 AM
When we had the forum vote on restore point options, Timeshift did come in 2nd place...because I and one other person voted for it.  The other 12 votes went to Systemback (https://www.linuxliteos.com/forums/suggestions-and-feedback/restore-linux-lite-systemback-or-timeshift/msg15584/#msg15584). 


I'll miss the Live System Creation option of Systemback, but if we have to abandon it, I'll adjust.
Title: Re: Software Replacement for Systemback?
Post by: Moltke on October 03, 2017, 08:55:19 PM
What about back in time? Have a nice gui, haven't tried it yet though but as soon as I do I will report back to you. Here's the link check it out https://github.com/bit-team/backintime
Title: Re: Software Replacement for Systemback?
Post by: bluzeo on October 06, 2017, 11:16:39 AM
What about duplicity??? For an. Alternative?


God Not dead.
Title: Re: Software Replacement for Systemback?
Post by: Moltke on October 16, 2017, 05:54:50 PM
I don't know if this qualifies as an alternative to systemback, but I just reinstalled LL and used Aptik (http://www.teejeetech.in/p/aptik.html) to restore all of my settings and most of my data; pretty fast and very easy to use. The feature I like the most is the fact that I can save to an external drive, which if you ask me makes more sense than saving to the same drive the backed up OS is in. I'm not able to do this with systemback, maybe I'm missing something not sure, is it possible? I also tried Timeshift but it takes way too much space on the HDD, I know data can be excluded but I'd prefer not to mess with that but rather that the backup program handles it by itself. Back in time looked nice but I found it kind of confusing; always complaining about something I can't remember now. I also tried Grsync (http://www.opbyte.it/grsync/), a rsync GUI which also features the ability to save to an external drive and you can run a simulation before the real deal, so you can check everything will be fine before proceeding with the backup process. Grsync wast fast and easy to set up, even though I kind of missed something and the backup didn't go as I expected :(. I will try it again after reading and/or watching any tutorials I find. In brief, I really liked Aptik ease of use and performance, I'd say is quite a very good alternative when it comes to backing up your data.  :)   
Title: Re: Software Replacement for Systemback?
Post by: torreydale on October 17, 2017, 08:58:10 AM
@Moltke ,
Systemback is a tool for restore points and Live System creation, not a data backup program, per se.  Linux Lite already comes with the backup program, Deja Dup, herein rebranded simply as the Backups program (Menu -> Accessories -> Backups).
Title: Re: Software Replacement for Systemback?
Post by: Moltke on October 17, 2017, 10:21:01 AM
@Moltke ,
Systemback is a tool for restore points and Live System creation, not a data backup program, per se.  Linux Lite already comes with the backup program, Deja Dup, herein rebranded simply as the Backups program (Menu -> Accessories -> Backups).

Hi @torreydale
I know what systemback is and what it does, that's why I said that I didn't know if Aptik could qualify as an alternative since both programas are quite different. What I meant is that I'm not able to make systemback to save to my external drive, is it possible?
Title: Re: Software Replacement for Systemback?
Post by: torreydale on October 17, 2017, 10:32:54 AM

@Moltke ,
How is your external drive formatted?  Is it FAT or NTFS?  I believe Systemback prefers to work with ext4 formatted partitions.
Title: Re: Software Replacement for Systemback?
Post by: Moltke on October 17, 2017, 05:16:22 PM

@Moltke ,
How is your external drive formatted?  Is it FAT or NTFS?  I believe Systemback prefers to work with ext4 formatted partitions.
Hi @torreydale
Is NTFS. Hmmm ok, I imagined something like  that's what keeping me from saving to my external drive. Well, like I said Aptik did a good job backing up  my settings as well as most of my home directory data; I reinstalled all of my apps through it, except for those I'd installed via a .deb file. I also restored all the PPAs I'd included in my sources.list. I really liked this little app; fast, easy and really lightweight! If I were to describe it in one word I'd say is foolproof, at least it was for me ::). Grsync looks really nice too though, I'm looking forward to learn more on using it cause when I first tried it I think I missed some step/setting and the result wasn't as I expected. But apart from that I liked the way it works. :)   
Title: Re: Software Replacement for Systemback?
Post by: Jerry on November 14, 2017, 09:46:15 PM
FYI, Mint just bundled Timeshift in their latest Beta. Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't believe they ever shipped a full system recovery tool before? Interesting indeed.
Title: Re: Software Replacement for Systemback?
Post by: Moltke on November 14, 2017, 10:17:45 PM
FYI, Mint just bundled Timeshift in their latest Beta. Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't believe they ever shipped a full system recovery tool before? Interesting indeed.

Yes, you're right @Jerry Linux Mint 18.3 codename "Sylvia" now features a new back up tool "Mint Backup" (https://github.com/linuxmint/mintbackup) as well as timeshift.
Title: Re: Software Replacement for Systemback?
Post by: DenW on November 15, 2017, 05:56:49 PM
Joe Collins has just posted an interesting video dealing with Mint update and in particular the last half deals with using Timeshift: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPpJUUKYbiQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPpJUUKYbiQ)
 Also Mint has revised their own backup program to just backup the Home directory to work in addition to Timeshift.  Jerry has expressed his view that Deja-dup (which uses Duplicity and compresses/encrypts backups) has the easiest interface for that function, but there are also BackinTime and Lucky  Backup (which both use Grsync so individual files can be easily retrieved).
These discussions have been had before but a decision will be required before LL4.0 next year.  Any more thoughts?