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Re: Lite Updates Notify
« Reply #15 on: April 11, 2017, 10:49:51 PM »
 

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I wish it behaved more like Linux Mint did it.  :)

It placed an icon in the desktop bar at the bottom of the screen. if there were no updates, it would display an icon with a check mark in it. If there were updates, the icon had an exclamation point in it. And it should remain sticky and always viewable.

I don't know how often Mint checks for updates, you would have to inspect the code, it may even be more than every hour, like every 2 or 3 hours. Having a constantly viewable icon is purely psychological in that it reassures people that an application is there and 'doing things'. Our application still does things, the main difference is that it doesn't show until it needs to, ensuring you are not distracted unless it is absolutely necessary. Simple, fast and free ;) (with minimal distraction)
 


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« Reply #16 on: April 12, 2017, 09:15:08 AM »
 

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@Jerry, either way this is not a problem for me. I have gotten accustom to checking daily for updates on my own and don't need it. I am just thinking about this because Lite Updates Notify will be helpful to newbies to Linux and will not be a benefit that other distros have to tempt newbies from using Linux Lite.

The hourly option like you say is probably the best and maybe the default option if does cause a problem for computers with only a small amount of RAM. Hourly may have been the default option but I don't remember now.


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« Reply #17 on: May 07, 2017, 01:22:09 PM »
 

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I wish it behaved more like Linux Mint did it.  :)

It placed an icon in the desktop bar at the bottom of the screen. if there were no updates, it would display an icon with a check mark in it. If there were updates, the icon had an exclamation point in it. And it should remain sticky and always viewable.

@humdinger70 how about something like this?  :)























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« Reply #18 on: May 07, 2017, 11:17:45 PM »
 

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I wish it behaved more like Linux Mint did it.  :)

It placed an icon in the desktop bar at the bottom of the screen. if there were no updates, it would display an icon with a check mark in it. If there were updates, the icon had an exclamation point in it. And it should remain sticky and always viewable.

I have some mixed emotions about this.  When I was newer to Linux, Mint confused me on the updates issue.  I had no idea what I should select or not select to update.  The numbering system was offputting, etc.  Coming from Windows, I was just used to updating everything.  To know what library (or in the case of Windows, what DLL) to update or ignore was too much for me.  I wouldn't expect non-techie friends or family to know either.  It's always been easier to just tell them to be consistent with running the Install Updates utility.  And now that the 3.x series installs security updates to the kernel, I only have to add that they remove the old kernels every month or so using Lite Tweaks.  Training them on update levels 1-5 is going to be a turnoff for them and me.  If we go this route to appease those already familiar with Linux Mint, I say it should remain the advanced option, and the default option remain what we have now.
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Re: Lite Updates Notify
« Reply #19 on: May 07, 2017, 11:22:41 PM »
 

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We're not porting Mint Updates, period. This is something Ralphy chooses to do in his spare time, on his own website.
We have a point and click option that works, and is easy to use without any user interaction that could end up in bad decisions being made.

 

Re: Lite Updates Notify
« Reply #20 on: May 07, 2017, 11:57:53 PM »
 

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@torreydale, what @Jerry said  :D

Linux Lite has a simple point and click option that works. That's what goes in our distro and that's what our guidelines requires. I'm doing this on my spare time as a hobby and not because we expect to replace our own solution. Nothing to worry about :)
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« Reply #21 on: May 08, 2017, 12:05:15 AM »
 

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... We have a point and click option that works, and is easy to use without any user interaction that could end up in bad decisions being made.

Thanks, @Jerry , for keeping it simple! The mint update system is confusing to me. I rather trust you and whoever else decides what update are needed. I don't even want to mess with kernel updates until they come with the regular updates.
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@Coastie,

For the record, kernel security updates do come with the regular updates in the 3.x series. 
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« Reply #23 on: May 08, 2017, 03:24:40 AM »
 

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Thanks Jerry and Ralphy for keeping the update system as it is.
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Re: Lite Updates Notify
« Reply #24 on: May 08, 2017, 03:31:45 AM »
 

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« Reply #25 on: May 08, 2017, 12:48:41 PM »
 

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Never mind. I keep getting this message:

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Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
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Re: Lite Updates Notify
« Reply #26 on: May 08, 2017, 08:16:38 PM »
 

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I'd like to see what you had in reply #17 above. But I'm not going to insist on it.
 

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Nothing important. I was just agreeing with torredale about the kernel updating was what I posted before. The forum was not cooperating   :(

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« Reply #28 on: May 09, 2017, 10:12:01 AM »
 

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I wish it behaved more like Linux Mint did it.  :)

It placed an icon in the desktop bar at the bottom of the screen. if there were no updates, it would display an icon with a check mark in it. If there were updates, the icon had an exclamation point in it. And it should remain sticky and always viewable.

@humdinger70 I've pushed mintupdate-lite to my server.



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Re: Lite Updates Notify
« Reply #29 on: October 03, 2017, 02:53:56 AM »
 

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New feature coming - report number of kernels installed and recommend removal to free up space:

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