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Title: Lite Info - Beta Testing
Post by: Jerry on February 12, 2016, 03:36:25 AM
A few weeks ago, I made an announcement on our social media pages that we were working on a new innovation.
Well I'm really excited to announce the first 'beta' version of our newest addition to our software.

Introducing Lite Info.

The purpose of the Linux Info, is to give people an idea of different computer configurations from within a Linux Lite Series. The Linux Lite Hardware Database displays Make and Model, CPU, Graphics, Audio, Network and Storage technical specifications. This provides a snapshot of the kind of computers people are able to use with Linux Lite.

This replaces the existing Hardware Database webpage.

New page: https://www.linuxliteos.com/hardware.php (https://www.linuxliteos.com/hardware.php)

Our software uses inxi to collect hardware information, which is then uploaded to the Linux Lite Hardware Database.
We hired a developer thanks to your ongoing contributions to handle all the web programming side of things. We're at the stage we're we'd like to release this for public testing.

Here's the process:

1. Run the tool via, Menu, System, Share Hardware Configuration.
2. Follow the prompts, takes about 20 seconds or less.
3. At the end of the prompts, you'll be offered to load the Hardware web page. Your submission will take between 15 - 60 mins to appear on the page, (depending on the number of submissions in the upload queue).

This provides much more accurate information and completely automates the entire process from beginning to end.

For this to be a success before going public with the final, we need testers. If we can get the kind of participation in this test that we did in the UEFI test, this would help to ensure the success of this application.

Download 32bit: https://www.linuxliteos.com/files/liteinfo_1.0-0020-linuxlite-i386.deb (https://www.linuxliteos.com/files/liteinfo_1.0-0020-linuxlite-i386.deb)
Download 64bit: https://www.linuxliteos.com/files/liteinfo_1.0-0020-linuxlite-amd64.deb (https://www.linuxliteos.com/files/liteinfo_1.0-0020-linuxlite-amd64.deb)

(http://i.imgur.com/00qskyA.png)

Thank you :)
Title: Re: Lite Info - Beta Testing
Post by: LL-user on February 12, 2016, 05:33:48 AM
Hi Jerry,

1. I can't see RAM information. Isn't "memory" on the intro page of the software tool referring to that? I consider it a lot more helpful than hard drive size.

2. The usage of the hard drive(s) shouldn't be collected and published. Doesn't feel right in regard to privacy. And has nothing to do with hardware compatibility.

Hope that people find this kind of database useful and all the effort you guys have put in pays off. :)
Title: Re: Lite Info - Beta Testing
Post by: TMG1961 on February 12, 2016, 05:35:09 AM
Did install it and did run the program. Made a misstake at the end where you need to choose the webbrowser you want the page to be loaded in, resulting in getting an error that the browser could not be found. So you will get several uploads from me..sorry about that.


Agree upon the Ram info.
The usage of the harddrive isnt a problem..cant see what that has to do with privacy. Notting privat being posted, just how much of the harddrive is used. Not an issue for me here.
Title: Re: Lite Info - Beta Testing
Post by: Jocklad on February 12, 2016, 06:59:15 AM
Done.

Hope it helps.   :) :)

Jocklad
Title: Re: Lite Info - Beta Testing
Post by: Wirezfree on February 12, 2016, 07:28:15 AM
Very Nice,
Well I run it on 2 PC's to start with, hopefully useful.
(Couple of Intel Atoms)

Would be good if it could incorporate a "Bootchart"
so people could compare results for similar Hardware.
Title: Re: Lite Info - Beta Testing
Post by: Jerry on February 12, 2016, 07:48:28 AM
Thanks for participating folks, great feedback :)

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Title: Re: Lite Info - Beta Testing
Post by: Glenn on February 12, 2016, 08:14:12 AM
One's done, Worked fine without a single issue. I'll do a few more later. Hope it helps.
Title: Re: Lite Info - Beta Testing
Post by: avj on February 12, 2016, 10:02:13 AM
Hardware info uploaded.  :)

Code: [Select]
Linux Lite 2.x Series: User Submitted on 02/12/2016 07:35
System:
Kernel: 3.13.0-24-generic i686 (32 bit) Desktop: Xfce 4.11.8 Distro: Ubuntu 14.04 trusty
Machine:
System: Acer product: AOA150 version: 1
Mobo: Acer model: N/A Bios: Acer version: v0.3310 date: 10/06/2008
CPU(s):
Single core Intel Atom CPU N270 (-HT-) clocked at 1066.00 MHz
Graphics:
Card: Intel Mobile 945GSE Express Integrated Graphics Controller
X.Org: 1.15.1 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: [email protected], [email protected]
GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 945GME x86/MMX/SSE2 GLX Version: 1.4 Mesa 10.1.3
Audio:
Card: Intel NM10/ICH7 Family High Definition Audio Controller driver: snd_hda_intel
Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture ver: k3.13.0-24-generic
Network:
Card-1: Realtek RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller driver: r8169
Card-2: Qualcomm Atheros AR242x / AR542x Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) driver: ath5k
Drives:
HDD Total Size: 160.0GB (6.4% used) 1: id: /dev/sda model: WDC_WD1600BEVT size: 160.0GB
Optical: No optical drives detected.

I think RAM info would be useful as well, in the case of people looking to put LL on older hardware.
Title: Re: Lite Info - Beta Testing
Post by: Tad Cooper on February 12, 2016, 11:13:10 AM
Done.

Glad to help
Title: Re: Lite Info - Beta Testing
Post by: UltraCookie on February 12, 2016, 12:00:44 PM
I did the Do :D

But it got my clock speed wrong. It says dual core at 1399 MHz but it's a dual cure at 2600MHz.
Title: Re: Lite Info - Beta Testing
Post by: Jerry on February 12, 2016, 12:27:58 PM
This is great folks :) There are no privacy issues here. Every section was gone over and tested thoroughly before we launched this as a public beta.

I'll see what I can do about the ram thing. This has been the most challenging software to date. The more we add to it, the more it costs and we have to draw the line at some point for cost vs time spent.

We're unlikely to fine tune this beyond what it already does. The beta test focuses on app bugs in all areas of the code.

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Title: Re: Lite Info - Beta Testing
Post by: Jerry on February 12, 2016, 12:30:20 PM
CPU will display the current clock speed at the time of processing. I'll look into whether inxi can show the actual chip speed.

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Title: Re: Lite Info - Beta Testing
Post by: Jerry on February 12, 2016, 02:20:04 PM
Whomever submitted this entry:

Linux Lite 2.x Series: User Submitted on 02/12/2016 09:45

Code: [Select]
Machine:
System: ��������������������������������� product: ��������������������������������� version: ���������������������������������
Mobo: Intel model: NUC5i5RYB version: H40999-503
Bios: Intel version: RYBDWi35.86A.0246.2015.0309.1355 date: 03/09/2015

Could you please let me know. Thank you.
Title: Re: Lite Info - Beta Testing
Post by: technomancer on February 12, 2016, 02:36:55 PM
This is great folks :) There are no privacy issues here. Every section was gone over and tested thoroughly before we launched this as a public beta.

I'll see what I can do about the ram thing. This has been the most challenging software to date. The more we add to it, the more it costs and we have to draw the line at some point for cost vs time spent.

We're unlikely to fine tune this beyond what it already does. The beta test focuses on app bugs in all areas of the code.

Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk

Jerry, wouldn't Conky be a simple solution to that issue ?(memory display) Some customizations would be required (how/where to display)but this issue would be resolved.
Title: Re: Lite Info - Beta Testing
Post by: Jerry on February 12, 2016, 02:41:46 PM
It's not that simple sorry. It would require a complete rewrite of most of the code. Memory is only available in recent versions of inxi. The extra cost here is the other consideration for this.

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Title: Re: Lite Info - Beta Testing
Post by: technomancer on February 12, 2016, 02:46:10 PM
It's not that simple sorry. It would require a complete rewrite of most of the code. Memory is only available in recent versions of inxi. The extra cost here is the other consideration for this.

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Ok, i understand.
Title: Re: Lite Info - Beta Testing
Post by: firenice03 on February 12, 2016, 10:48:12 PM
And uploaded both 64 and 32 bit...

:)
Title: Re: Lite Info - Beta Testing
Post by: Wirezfree on February 13, 2016, 05:19:17 AM
Upgraded 3 pc's to 2.8, and then added info for:
N2807(Barebones Micro PC), E3845(Barebones Micro PC) and i54200U(HP TS14 Lappy)
Title: Re: Lite Info - Beta Testing
Post by: Jerry on February 13, 2016, 05:28:10 AM
This is great! We have an amazing community here :)

Software on both sides seems to be doing its job.

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Title: Re: Lite Info - Beta Testing
Post by: justme2 on February 13, 2016, 06:39:19 AM
Uploaded data for two 'low spec' machines, both of which run LL2.8 very successfully.
1: ASUS eeePC 901 running LL on a 32GB class 10 SDHC card

2: ASUS eeePC 701SD running LL on 8GB SSD with 16GB SDHC for data storage.

There must be thousands of these models lying dormant which can be given new life. They were originally sold with a version of linux (can't remember which), a very poor and unreliable build due to the fact that the update method quickly filled the  SSD and the PC became unusable. That does not happen with LinuxLite.

 :) :) :)
Title: Re: Lite Info - Beta Testing
Post by: Coastie on February 13, 2016, 04:51:20 PM
Took two tries but it finally posted but finally show up on web page.

CPU~Quad core AMD A10-6700 APU with Radeon HD Graphics (-MCP-) clocked at 1800.000 Mhz Kernel~3.13.0-24-generic i686 Up~5:10 Mem~1272.1/11323.7MB HDD~2500.5GB(3.0% used) Procs~189 Client~Shell inxi~1.9.17 
Title: Re: Lite Info - Beta Testing
Post by: Jerry on February 13, 2016, 11:28:41 PM
@Coastie, why did it take two tries?
Title: Re: Lite Info - Beta Testing
Post by: Coastie on February 14, 2016, 12:29:07 AM
@Jerry, when I first uploaded info it was in afternoon Eastern Standard Time US. After about 2 hours or so, it had not showed up on the webpage so I tried again close to 17:00 EST US. I checked again and it had been posted. The posted time shows: User Submitted on 02/13/2016 14:45. If that is my time it could be my first upload and it could just be a consequence that it posted right after I uploaded it again because 14:45 could be the time I first uploaded. :-\
Title: Re: Lite Info - Beta Testing
Post by: Jerry on February 14, 2016, 12:37:33 AM
All files that get uploaded go into a queue. You only need to submit once, it will show eventually depending on queue size. Check the next day if you need to. :)
Title: Re: Lite Info - Beta Testing
Post by: zygmunto on February 14, 2016, 02:06:28 AM
Done.
Title: Re: Lite Info - Beta Testing
Post by: Jerry on February 15, 2016, 01:14:33 AM
We have 39 submissions to date. This I think, is enough to confirm that the software produces the desired results. A huge thank you to everyone who participated in this! I'll set this to be the default Hardware Database page and post links to the .deb files on the web page. This will be bundled into LL 3.0 :)
Title: Re: Lite Info - Beta Testing
Post by: Jerry on February 17, 2016, 06:52:09 PM
59 submissions now :) I've asked the web dev for a quote on two new features:

- make the db searchable
- show the total count of machines submitted

The cost is a little high compared to the total cost for the original code, so I'll see if I can negotiate with him.
Title: Re: Lite Info - Beta Testing
Post by: Jerry on February 17, 2016, 08:06:13 PM
A huge thank you to Wirezfree for donating to this development. For the record (and I hope I don't embarrass him with this) Wirezfree is now the number 1 contributor in terms of total amount donated to Linux Lite. Please everyone, thank him for this!

(http://www.makeupandbeautyblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/great-job-award-200.jpg)
Title: Re: Lite Info - Beta Testing
Post by: firenice03 on February 17, 2016, 10:15:47 PM
Congrats and Thanks Wirezfree !!!
And a very knowledgeable forum contributer as well  8)
Title: Re: Lite Info - Beta Testing
Post by: Jerry on February 18, 2016, 02:13:55 AM
The power of donations strikes again!

We've added 2 new features to the Hardware Database. The Database is now searchable, you can use any search term or terms. We also added a Total number of computers uploaded statistic. https://www.linuxliteos.com/hardware.php (https://www.linuxliteos.com/hardware.php)

(http://i.imgur.com/v2yriI0.png)

(http://imgur.com/LP0URKP.png)
Title: Re: Lite Info - Beta Testing
Post by: Monkeyman on February 18, 2016, 07:43:58 AM
The result gives me everyone elses info but not mine.  Last result shows today @ 0355.  (It's now 0742.)  I'll try again later.  Maybe it just takes a while to load?
Title: Re: Lite Info - Beta Testing
Post by: rokytnji on February 18, 2016, 09:14:30 AM
Thanks wirezfree for all the love you give this distro. You pay it forward like a stand up dude in my book.
Title: Re: Lite Info - Beta Testing
Post by: avj on February 18, 2016, 10:05:36 AM
Very nice, the search feature looks to be a very useful addition to the database.

Thank you Wirezfree for all you do on the forum, and for Linux Lite.  :)
Title: Re: Lite Info - Beta Testing
Post by: newtusmaximus on February 18, 2016, 11:04:48 AM
Seems to be working fine - 1 desktop and three laptops added = HP, Tosh, Fujitsu Siemens x2

Ideal solution to a data  collecting   problem .  Output  ideal for prospective linux newbies.  Tks to all  :)
Title: Re: Lite Info - Beta Testing
Post by: Wirezfree on February 18, 2016, 03:49:44 PM
Thanks for Thanks... :)   :-[
I would rather donate to LL, and feel part of community,
than give my money to some faceless giant...
Title: Re: Lite Info - Beta Testing
Post by: j1r1 on February 18, 2016, 04:42:01 PM
Four comps added today, one additional will do tomorrow.
Title: Re: Lite Info - Beta Testing
Post by: Wirezfree on February 20, 2016, 08:29:19 AM
Added 3 more PC's after doing the 2.6 > 2.8 update, inc a friends NUCi7
Title: Re: Lite Info - Beta Testing
Post by: Jerry on February 20, 2016, 08:30:49 AM
Thanks folks. The LLHDB is looking great thanks to your contributions.

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Title: Re: Lite Info - Beta Testing
Post by: nublix on February 20, 2016, 11:09:37 AM
Just added mine too -but a question.

Does the program inxi remain on our computers indefinitely and keep updating the dbase in case we make any hardware changes?
Title: Re: Lite Info - Beta Testing
Post by: Jerry on February 20, 2016, 11:16:45 AM
Just added mine too -but a question.

Does the program inxi remain on our computers indefinitely and keep updating the dbase in case we make any hardware changes?

If you remove inxi, you remove the Lite Info. Lite Info only sends information when you tell it to. Nothing works without your interaction.
Title: Re: Lite Info - Beta Testing
Post by: nublix on February 20, 2016, 11:37:23 AM

If you remove inxi, you remove the Lite Info. Lite Info only sends information when you tell it to. Nothing works without your interaction.


I see. . . I guess it's not a bad thing if we keep sharing the info if we update our hardware. Though in my case, this rather old computer is on its last legs (it was running XP) so very little upgrade can be done to it.

Thanks to Lite, it has gotten a true makeover  :).
Title: Re: Lite Info - Beta Testing
Post by: Jerry on February 20, 2016, 11:39:46 AM
It might feel to some as an insignificant contribution but let me assure you all, this matters to people who seek answers.
Title: Re: Lite Info - Beta Testing
Post by: Wirezfree on March 20, 2016, 06:08:56 AM
Just added a new device,
The HP Stream 11,
Everything shows but not the Drives/Partitions info.
(http://i.imgur.com/QvfcPbt.png)
from inxi -F I get:
Code: [Select]
System:    Host: stream11 Kernel: 4.5.0-linuxlite x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop: Xfce 4.11.8 Distro: Ubuntu 14.04 trusty
Machine:   System: HP (portable) product: HP Stream Notebook version: Type1ProductConfigId
           Mobo: HP model: 815E version: 32.25 Bios: Insyde version: F.12 date: 01/05/2016
CPU:       Dual core Intel Celeron CPU N3050 (-MCP-) cache: 1024 KB flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx)
           Clock Speeds: 1: 479.937 MHz 2: 480.00 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Intel Device 22b1 X.Org: 1.17.1 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: [email protected]
           GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Cherryview GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 10.5.9
Audio:     Card: Intel Device 2284 driver: snd_hda_intel Sound: ALSA ver: k4.5.0-linuxlite
Network:   Card: Broadcom BCM43142 802.11b/g/n driver: wl
           IF: wlan1 state: up mac: 60:6d:c7:ee:c3:35
Partition: ID: / size: 9.8G used: 4.4G (48%) fs: ext4 ID: /home size: 9.8G used: 2.5G (27%) fs: ext4
           ID: swap-1 size: 4.29GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap
RAID:      No RAID devices detected - /proc/mdstat and md_mod kernel raid module present
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 34.0C mobo: N/A
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 225 Uptime: 53 min Memory: 1110.4/1860.5MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 1.9.17
Maybe something to do with it being a funky eMMC.??