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Development => Linux Lite Software Development => Topic started by: Jerry on September 23, 2014, 04:33:21 AM

Title: Lite Backup - Suggestions welcomed LOCKED LL now uses Deja Dup
Post by: Jerry on September 23, 2014, 04:33:21 AM
The next addition to the Lite software family will be Lite Backup.

Most of the back up solutions available for linux that I have tried either have a steep learning curve, confusing interface or they miss files and folders during the process.
Lite Backup looks to simplify the way we perform backups buy focusing on file types as opposed to entire directories. If you're new to linux and you can't remember where all your pictures are, Lite Backup will search your computer and combine them all into one backup. There will also be a restore process included.

This is likely to be the most complex of our packages to create, so it will be a while before it is available to use.

We welcome your suggestions and ideas. The following screenshot is just a mock up, there is no working code yet. Once I have completed the first working backup type, the code will be made public.

(http://i.imgur.com/6Ll6wD5.png)
Title: Re: Lite Backup - Suggestions welcomed
Post by: anon222 on September 23, 2014, 04:46:16 AM
I like this.  :) It will be a great addition to LL.
It would be nice if there was an option to select individual files for backup. Maybe file selection dialog can be used for this.
Title: Re: Lite Backup - Suggestions welcomed
Post by: Jerry on September 23, 2014, 04:54:04 AM
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I like this.  :) It will be a great addition to LL.
It would be nice if there was an option to select individual files for backup. Maybe file selection dialog can be used for this.

We could certainly do that :)
Title: Re: Lite Backup - Suggestions welcomed
Post by: Monkeyman on September 23, 2014, 07:25:41 AM
Where's the "Two Thumbs Up!" button?
Title: Re: Lite Backup - Suggestions welcomed
Post by: sonic on September 23, 2014, 09:35:06 AM
May I ask what will be the "backup"? I mean just a copy from the source we choose to a destination that we also choose?
Title: Re: Lite Backup - Suggestions welcomed
Post by: Jerry on September 23, 2014, 08:06:38 PM
May I ask what will be the "backup"? I mean just a copy from the source we choose to a destination that we also choose?

Yet to be decided, either a pop up window that lets you choose a device or a default location eg. /home/user/backups, or possibly both.
Title: Re: Lite Backup - Suggestions welcomed
Post by: Scott on September 23, 2014, 08:31:01 PM
One backup item that always seems to get overlooked is browser bookmarks. I have no idea how that could be incorporated but I think it would be a good one.
Title: Re: Lite Backup - Suggestions welcomed
Post by: Jerry on September 23, 2014, 08:49:44 PM
I like that one Scott, thank you.
Title: Re: Lite Backup - Suggestions welcomed
Post by: riser on September 24, 2014, 02:26:40 PM
Valtam,

Please consider the following
- Add Gimp file formats to Pictures list
- Add Excel binary formats (.xlsb, etc.) to Documents list
- Add an option to backup installed application list
- Backup entire FF/Chrome profiles, not just bookmarks (there may be multiple profiles with various addons)
- Add an option to backup Email (thunderbird)

Question: Won't the Home Folder (hidden files) overlap the Documents/etc. folders? (I'm thinking of .mozilla, .chrome, etc.)

riser
Title: Re: Lite Backup - Suggestions welcomed
Post by: Coastie on September 24, 2014, 03:11:00 PM
Lite Backup might be good for someone coming from Windows but may not for someone coming from a different distro or earlier version of Linux Lite to Linux Lite 2.0.

I use Deja Dup. It is the simplest backup that I have found. Using it would enable someone coming from a different distro or earlier version of LL already using Deja Dup to restore a backup into LL 2.0 once Deja Dup is installed in LL 2.0.

(Being paranoid after losing a backup before  :'(, I also save the files individually I need before doing a distro install.)
Title: Re: Lite Backup - Suggestions welcomed
Post by: Jerry on September 24, 2014, 04:28:21 PM
Valtam,

Please consider the following
- Add Gimp file formats to Pictures list
- Add Excel binary formats (.xlsb, etc.) to Documents list
- Add an option to backup installed application list
- Backup entire FF/Chrome profiles, not just bookmarks (there may be multiple profiles with various addons)
- Add an option to backup Email (thunderbird)

Question: Won't the Home Folder (hidden files) overlap the Documents/etc. folders? (I'm thinking of .mozilla, .chrome, etc.)

riser

Thank you for the suggestions riser :)
Title: Re: Lite Backup - Suggestions welcomed
Post by: Monkeyman on September 24, 2014, 10:57:37 PM

Please consider the following

- Add an option to backup installed application list
- Backup entire FF/Chrome profiles, not just bookmarks (there may be multiple profiles with various addons)
- Add an option to backup Email (thunderbird)


When I was a Windows user, I installed Mozbackup.  That would backup/restore everything in both Firefox and Thunderbird.  I backed up both at least once a week.  I haven't tried it with Wine yet (although that's on the agenda for this weekend) but it's an invaluable tool.  Maybe you could sneek a peek at their code and work with that?

What I want for a backup is the ability to copy my entire OS HDD so, if my original OS HDD dies, I can unplug it, plug in the backup and continue like nothing ever happened.
Title: Re: Lite Backup - Suggestions welcomed
Post by: bitsnpcs on September 25, 2014, 12:48:21 AM
A function whereby any folder can be right clicked and selected for backup, including its subfolders and files, maintaining the structure/organisation of the files and folders.

One options could be for Lite Backup with Dropbox (or similar) folder sync, as one of the storage destination choices.
Title: Re: Lite Backup - Suggestions welcomed
Post by: Jerry on September 25, 2014, 06:08:25 AM
A function whereby any folder can be right clicked and selected for backup, including its subfolders and files, maintaining the structure/organisation of the files and folders.

This isn't something the Lite Backup interface allows for, we use check boxes. You could use a Thunar Custom Action for that.

One options could be for Lite Backup with Dropbox (or similar) folder sync, as one of the storage destination choices.


Interesting idea, thank you bitsnpcs.
Title: Re: Lite Backup - Suggestions welcomed
Post by: Jerry on September 25, 2014, 06:10:05 AM
Re. any web browser and email client back up suggestions, these are already covered via the Home folder backup option.
Title: Re: Lite Backup - Suggestions welcomed
Post by: Alex on September 25, 2014, 06:45:42 AM
The proposal looks simple enough for even me to get right - a great idea :)
Title: Re: Lite Backup - Suggestions welcomed
Post by: Jerry on October 19, 2014, 12:18:14 PM
Did a little more work on the Home folder back up option today, long way to go :)

(http://i.imgur.com/Zhz1HRC.png)
Title: Re: Lite Backup - Suggestions welcomed
Post by: anon222 on October 19, 2014, 02:03:31 PM
It looks OK. :)
add \B to the end of the variable so it will display as 63GB
Code: [Select]
$home_size\BThat's simpler than using sed.
Code: [Select]
echo $home_size | sed 's/$/B/'
Title: Re: Lite Backup - Suggestions welcomed
Post by: Scott on October 19, 2014, 03:44:21 PM
@Valtam
Looking good! 8)
Title: Re: Lite Backup - Suggestions welcomed
Post by: Jerry on October 19, 2014, 05:30:59 PM
It looks OK. :)
add \B to the end of the variable so it will display as 63GB
Code: [Select]
$home_size\BThat's simpler than using sed.
Code: [Select]
echo $home_size | sed 's/$/B/'

Fixed :)

@Valtam
Looking good! 8)

Cheers :)
Title: Re: Lite Backup - Suggestions welcomed
Post by: Jerry on October 22, 2014, 07:26:13 AM
Development is under way, let the coffee flow, and the days never end!
Title: Re: Lite Backup - Suggestions welcomed
Post by: Scott on October 22, 2014, 10:47:14 AM
 8) @Valtam
May the espresso and caffeine gods be with you.
Title: Re: Lite Backup - Suggestions welcomed
Post by: Monkeyman on October 22, 2014, 02:36:08 PM
I don't mean to sound impatient since you guys are doing all the work and I'm just sitting here but any idea when this will be complete?

Will this have the option to automatically back up at certain intervals?  (i.e. every Friday @ 2am?)
Title: Re: Lite Backup - Suggestions welcomed
Post by: Jerry on October 22, 2014, 02:38:40 PM
I don't mean to sound impatient since you guys are doing all the work and I'm just sitting here but any idea when this will be complete?

Unknown.

Will this have the option to automatically back up at certain intervals?  (i.e. every Friday @ 2am?)

Not in the first version, perhaps down the line.
Title: Re: Lite Backup - Suggestions welcomed
Post by: Jerry on November 06, 2014, 03:57:28 PM
Development on hold for now.
Title: Re: Lite Backup - Suggestions welcomed
Post by: Wirezfree on November 06, 2014, 06:27:03 PM
What I want for a backup is the ability to copy my entire OS HDD so, if my original OS HDD dies, I can unplug it, plug in the backup and continue like nothing ever happened.

Hi,

You could look at "REDO Backup" for complete offline / bare metal HD & Partition images
http://redobackup.org/ (http://redobackup.org/)

I have been looking at Systemback,
http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/07/install-backup-tool-systemback-1-0-ubuntu-14-04/ (http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/07/install-backup-tool-systemback-1-0-ubuntu-14-04/)

It allows you to create windows like "Restore Points"

It also allows you to create a "Live Image" whilst LL is running.
It then gives you an option to create a "Live Boot" USB stick to re-install from.
I've done the 1st Bit, I've tested it "Live Boots" O.K it does...
I now just need to test the re-install option works.

Dave
Title: Re: Lite Backup - Suggestions welcomed
Post by: N4RPS on November 10, 2014, 05:01:22 AM
Hello!

Thanks for the tip. I'll give this Systemback a shot.

I miss Windows' System Restore feature not being available in Linux. There are times when it really comes in handy...

73 DE N4RPS
Rob