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Re: Linux Lite Kernel
« Reply #282 on: August 01, 2017, 08:44:40 AM »
 

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4.10 will always be around. There are no so called 'support' periods. If 4.10 is working for your particular set up, you won't need support :)

What I mean by support is security updates for kernel.

Security updates will be applied if that particular kernel version requires it.

Currently I have been running the computer on 4.12!  I haven't noticed much of a difference between the 4.10 and 4.12.  I know the monitor, keyboard, and mouse all work but I haven't tested the sound yet.  Jerry I don't know how your managing the kernels for this distro.  But wikipeida says 4.10 EOL (maintained from February 2017 to May 2017)  Are you taking care of security for every Kernel that is in the lite tweaks?   I'm just wondering about how all of this works...  Thanks for making a wonderful distro.
 

Re: Linux Lite Kernel
« Reply #281 on: July 31, 2017, 08:12:13 PM »
 

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4.10 will always be around. There are no so called 'support' periods. If 4.10 is working for your particular set up, you won't need support :)

What I mean by support is security updates for kernel.

Security updates will be applied if that particular kernel version requires it.
 

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« Reply #280 on: July 31, 2017, 06:11:09 PM »
 

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4.10 will always be around. There are no so called 'support' periods. If 4.10 is working for your particular set up, you won't need support :)

What I mean by support is security updates for kernel.
 

Re: Linux Lite Kernel
« Reply #279 on: July 29, 2017, 10:02:58 AM »
 

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4.10 will always be around. There are no so called 'support' periods. If 4.10 is working for your particular set up, you won't need support :)
 

Re: Linux Lite Kernel
« Reply #278 on: July 29, 2017, 09:47:19 AM »
 

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I've been running linux lite on the intel DG965OT mainboard.  I think it is almost a year now!  Under all the kernels I have tried, I experienced shutdown issues. I'm not going to go into to many details about it because I have already in older posts. I noticed that Linux Mint is now using 4.10 with Mint 18.2. After upgrading the kernel to 4.10 on that other machine, I decided to try it on Linux Lite.  Ever since I upgraded to 4.10 this mainboard  DG965OT seems to be shutdown better.  How long is linux lite going to support 4.10?

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System:    Host: gregory-DG965OT Kernel: 4.10.0 x86_64 (64 bit gcc: 5.4.0) Desktop: Xfce 4.12.3 (Gtk 2.24.28)
           Distro: Ubuntu 16.04 xenial
Machine:   System: MapleTronics product: DG965OT v: VIIV
           Mobo: Intel model: DG965OT v: AAD63733-205
           Bios: Intel v: MQ96510J.86A.1754.2008.1117.0002 date: 11/17/2008
CPU:       Dual core Intel Core2 6400 (-MCP-) cache: 2048 KB flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 ssse3 vmx) bmips: 8523
           clock speeds: max: 2128 MHz 1: 1596 MHz 2: 1596 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Intel 82G965 Integrated Graphics Controller bus-ID: 00:02.0
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           GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 965G GLX Version: 2.1 Mesa 12.0.6 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio:     Card Intel 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1b.0
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.10.0
Network:   Card: Intel 82566DC Gigabit Network Connection driver: e1000e v: 3.2.6-k port: 20e0 bus-ID: 00:19.0
           IF: enp0s25 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 515.8GB (6.5% used) ID-1: /dev/sda model: ST500DM002 size: 500.1GB
           ID-2: USB /dev/sdb model: Cruzer_Glide size: 15.7GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 455G used: 28G (7%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1
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RAID:      No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 37.0C mobo: N/A
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Info:      Processes: 202 Uptime: 6 min Memory: 628.2/3877.5MB Init: systemd runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 5.4.0
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Re: Linux Lite Kernel
« Reply #277 on: July 03, 2017, 02:47:49 AM »
 

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4.12 Linux Lite Kernel is now available for 32 & 64bit machines.

Open a terminal and do:

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sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install linux-headers-linuxlite-4.12.0 linux-image-linuxlite-4.12.0 linux-firmware-image-linuxlite-4.12.0 -y
NOTE: If you have the nVidia proprietary graphics drivers installed, this kernel may break functionality with nVidia. If you have the nVidia proprietary graphics drivers installed and you still decide to go ahead with this kernel install, you should be competent in repairing your graphics drivers. If you aren't, DO NOT install this kernel.

Our installer no longer throws innocuous errors (other than for VirtualBox), if you do get errors in your terminal, please post them in this thread.

IMPORTANT: Only install this kernel if you need it or if you are adept at getting out of trouble from a TTY.
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Re: Linux Lite Kernel
« Reply #276 on: May 02, 2017, 08:18:03 AM »
 

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Linux Lite Kernel 4.9 for i386 fixed, tested and uploaded :)
 

Re: Linux Lite Kernel
« Reply #275 on: May 02, 2017, 12:43:32 AM »
 

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Re: Linux Lite Kernel
« Reply #274 on: May 02, 2017, 12:25:47 AM »
 

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4.11 Linux Lite Kernel is now available for 32 & 64bit machines.

This is the first Linux Lite Kernel that includes our Firmware package 'linux-firmware-image-linuxlite' (a.k.a linux-image-extra). Thank you to @light_user for this suggestion.

Open a terminal and do:

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sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install linux-headers-linuxlite-4.11.0 linux-image-linuxlite-4.11.0 linux-firmware-image-linuxlite-4.11.0 -y
NOTE: If you have the nVidia proprietary graphics drivers installed, this kernel may break functionality with nVidia. If you have the nVidia proprietary graphics drivers installed and you still decide to go ahead with this kernel install, you should be competent in repairing your graphics drivers. If you aren't, DO NOT install this kernel.

Ignore any errors in the terminal.

IMPORTANT: Only install this kernel if you need it or if you are adept at getting out of trouble from a TTY.


Ran the 4.11 kernel update on the 32-bit mini.. Install process was smooth, no errors to report. All appears to stable..  :D :D

For those debating on older hardware (Noticed on Dell Mini)
I did find the littlest of things - in both 4.10 and 4.11 on a laptop touch pad I couldn't click and drag windows around (terminal/Firefox/etc), using an external (USB) mouse this was not an issue.
*Most likely due to my hardware being old and not the kernel*

I'll try to hit the Kangaroo in the next couple days..

 
Thanks Jerry!!
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Re: Linux Lite Kernel
« Reply #273 on: May 01, 2017, 11:35:38 PM »
 

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Re: Linux Lite Kernel
« Reply #272 on: May 01, 2017, 07:30:34 PM »
 

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@Coastie 

Most likely an incremental - - Lite tweaks classifies Kernel Removal as cautious.. As there is always a potential.. I think you are fine in doing so keeping in mind..
There are 3 or 4 entries per kernel version.. Ensure you are removing those associated with each other and are removing older kernels..

I don't believe the in use kernel is selectable.. But know which kernel you're running prior. This can be done with the following command...
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uname -r
Obviously don't remove your current - unless having problems with it. Which you would most likely of booted into an old kernel if you were having problems...

As such, I like to keep the previous kernel or 2 just on the in case (all 3 or 4 entries of each)..

Example: I have 4.4.0-70, 4.4.0-75 and 4.4.0-77.. I also have 4.10.0 installed so I would remove 4.4.0-70 being the oldest knowing all has worked fine since then.
I would defiantly keep 4.4.0-77 should I find 4.10 doesn't fit my needs and I need to revert my kernel back...
And 4.4.0-75 could go either way being the middle child  ;) as such I may let it hang around a bit more  ;D

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« Reply #271 on: May 01, 2017, 07:09:01 PM »
 

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Will a "new" kernel version be available via Updates -- I would say for now most likely not -- although there are tools that can install kernels as well as remove  (Lite Tweaks - kernel removal)..
Again this is something that one would need to understand what their getting into, how it may affect their machine and how to get out of; not necessarily "safe"...

As for "fixes" those typically are patched via Updates incrementally an example:Kernel 4.4.0 -> 4.4.28 -> 4.4.53 etc.... (looking at lite tweaks one can see the various installed kernels)

Thanks, @firenice03.

I just did an update and got a kernel update. I guess from what you wrote it was an incremental update. I have been removing the old kernels or increments by Lite Teaks after rebooting and running my computer for maybe a day. Is that safe or would it be better to just leave the old kernels or updates installed?  :-\


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Re: Linux Lite Kernel
« Reply #270 on: May 01, 2017, 11:49:00 AM »
 

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... Newer kernels drop drivers etc. This stops the kernel ballooning over time.

I understand now that is an advantage to installing new kernels. I think they also fix bugs in kernels, like the mad cow. As I posted before "Will it be available by Lite Update when it won't be a problem?"

@Coastie
I hope this may help enlighten...

Will a "new" kernel version be available via Updates -- I would say for now most likely not -- although there are tools that can install kernels as well as remove  (Lite Tweaks - kernel removal)..
Again this is something that one would need to understand what their getting into, how it may affect their machine and how to get out of; not necessarily "safe"...

As for "fixes" those typically are patched via Updates incrementally an example:Kernel 4.4.0 -> 4.4.28 -> 4.4.53 etc.... (looking at lite tweaks one can see the various installed kernels)
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Re: Linux Lite Kernel
« Reply #269 on: May 01, 2017, 10:29:32 AM »
 

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« Reply #268 on: May 01, 2017, 10:16:11 AM »
 

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... Newer kernels drop drivers etc. This stops the kernel ballooning over time.

I understand now that is an advantage to installing new kernels. I think they also fix bugs in kernels, like the mad cow. As I posted before "Will it be available by Lite Update when it won't be a problem?"


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