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Development => Linux Lite Software Development => Topic started by: Jerry on October 28, 2014, 05:43:10 PM
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Hi Valtam,
That is Good News... But excuse my ignorance on releases.
I'm on LL 2.0 which is based on Ubuntu 14.04
I see Ubuntu 14.10 coming along, is that LL 2.2 is based on.?
Does this then mean If I want LTS I stay with 2.0,
or go for 2.2 for rolling releases.?
or have I got it wrong.?
Thanks... Dave
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Grub Update?
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Hi Valtam,
That is Good News... But excuse my ignorance on releases.
I'm on LL 2.0 which is based on Ubuntu 14.04
I see Ubuntu 14.10 coming along, is that LL 2.2 is based on.?
Does this then mean If I want LTS I stay with 2.0,
or go for 2.2 for rolling releases.?
or have I got it wrong.?
Thanks... Dave
https://www.linuxliteos.com/linuxlite.html
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Hi Valtam,
That is Good News... But excuse my ignorance on releases.
I'm on LL 2.0 which is based on Ubuntu 14.04
I see Ubuntu 14.10 coming along, is that LL 2.2 is based on.?
Does this then mean If I want LTS I stay with 2.0,
or go for 2.2 for rolling releases.?
or have I got it wrong.?
Thanks... Dave
https://www.linuxliteos.com/linuxlite.html
O.K, Clicking on the Ubuntu link shows the 14.04 LTS, 14.10 rolling,
so the question is?, is LL2.2 is based on 14.04 or 14.10, and therefore rolling.
Sorry to labour this...
Dave
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Hi Valtam,
That is Good News... But excuse my ignorance on releases.
I'm on LL 2.0 which is based on Ubuntu 14.04
I see Ubuntu 14.10 coming along, is that LL 2.2 is based on.?
Does this then mean If I want LTS I stay with 2.0,
or go for 2.2 for rolling releases.?
or have I got it wrong.?
Thanks... Dave
https://www.linuxliteos.com/linuxlite.html
O.K, Clicking on the Ubuntu link shows the 14.04 LTS, 14.10 rolling,
so the question is?, is LL2.2 is based on 14.04 or 14.10, and therefore rolling.
Sorry to labour this...
Dave
Linux Lite is based on the Ubuntu LTS series of releases.
14.10 is not LTS.
Ubuntu 14.10
Utopic Unicorn
Born
October 2014 Dies
April 2015
Only a 6 month support release.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSW3VAF7YP8&feature=youtu.be
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@Wirezfree
Hi Dave,
Linux Lite is always based on Ubuntu LTS releases. So the next LL release, LL 2.2, will also be be be based on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS.
Does that make sense?
~Scott
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Valtam,
The welcome menu looks great! The "install-updates, do this first" is a nice touch and the slide-show seems very polished. Great work, looking forward to the release.
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Valtam,
The welcome menu looks great! The "install-updates, do this first" is a nice touch and the slide-show seems very polished. Great work, looking forward to the release.
Cheers Scott, I'm really liking this build :)
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I am using Linux Lite 2.0, why would I want to install 2.2?
I would have to install again all additional applications, set up my appearance preferences again, etc. I thought I would not have to reinstall again for 5 years since LL is based on Ubuntu LTS. ???
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I have a similar question as Coastie but I'll ask in a Windows type question because that's what I understand. Is upgrading from LL 2.0 to LL 2.2 more like installing a service pack to Windows 7 or more like going to Windows 8?
I'm all for upgrading except for losing my Firefox bookmarks. It literally took hours to copy them (individually) from my Windows laptop to my LL desktop as I had to look at the url on the laptop then type it on the desktop. Temporarily transferring my folders/files from my OS HDD to another while I install an update isn't a big deal (just time consuming).
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Hello Monkeyman,
it would be "like" going from 7 to 8, as it is a full install of the Operating system.
A service pack would be "similar" to Menu>install updates in Linux Lite.
The difference is Menu>install updates updates the OS and the programs/packages with stable updates, whereas the service patch in windows only updates the OS , the programs then need to be updated one at a time, or set to autoupdate and they will hog systems resources and bandwidth with their too often checks.Especially so just after rebooting, slowing down the time before the desktop is reliably usable.
Another difference is LL doesn't need restarting after each one of those updates it makes. So again it saves the user time, and is more efficient in use.
To save bookmarks I open Leafpad, click a favourite in Firefox then copy/paste its url from the address bar in to Leafpad, click the next favourite url and repeat, save the Leafpad file to a usb flash drive.
Then on the next computer I use, or reinstall to, I open Leafpad copy/paste the url to the address bar, visit site, add to favourites in the usual way.
I then close the Leafpad and save it on the usb flash drive, so in future reducing the number of steps required by 50%, as I have the url stored.
Every time I add a new favourite I copy the url into the leafpad file ;-)
Every time I delete a favourite I delete it from the Leafpad file.
So the Leafpad file is always up to date/ backup and accurate, should a hardware malfunction occur. (or in windows should the OS have fell apart).
One other thing I do is I make individual text files for each program name and save on usb flash drive where I needed to make a fix, or change it to my liking, so when reinstalling it makes it easy to set those programs back to how they were.
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To save bookmarks...
That's a good idea but I probably have 150-200 bookmarks. It'll take a LONG time to do it that way but I guess there's no other way for now. I'll be glad when there's a Mozbackup version that works in Linux.
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Back up bookmarks in Firefox, Bookmarks, Show all bookmarks, Import and backup, Export Bookmarks to html.
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Re. do I need to upgrade comments. If it ain't broke... :)
I ran 1.0.4 for nearly a year before switching to 2.0.
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@Wirezfree
Hi Dave,
Linux Lite is always based on Ubuntu LTS releases. So the next LL release, LL 2.2, will also be be be based on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS.
Does that make sense?
~Scott
Hi Scott,
Thanks, now it's clear 2.x is based Ubuntu 14.04
Having spent many hours on installing programs, configuration, network set-up, share mapping PC's/NAS etc. ect.
Not sure I relish the idea of starting from scratch on 3 PC's...
Dave
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That's a good idea but I probably have 150-200 bookmarks. It'll take a LONG time to do it that way but I guess there's no other way for now. I'll be glad when there's a Mozbackup version that works in Linux.
Backing up bookmarks is easy. Two ways to do it depending on what you like. Will show difference by using two different scenarios. (NOTE: You should be able to do this from/between Windows and Linux without issue. Backup menu in Firefox on Windows may be slightly different from what is described below but should work the same.)
Scenario #1:
You have two computers and don't necessarily want both to have exactly the same bookmarks. Machine #1 has bookmarks 1 thru 10; Machine two has bookmarks 11-20. You decide that you want Machine #1 to stay as it is, but you want to add the bookmarks from Machine #1 to Machine #2 so it has all of the bookmarks from both.
In Firefox on Machine #1, go to Bookmarks -> Show All Bookmarks -> Import and Backup -> Export Bookmarks to HTML, then save the .html file to a USB stick.
(http://ibin.co/1fOqtjZsbXXK)
In Firefox on Machine #2, go to Bookmarks -> Show All Bookmarks -> Import and Backup -> Import Bookmarks from HTML, then pick the .html file from the USB stick for importing. I can't remember exactly, but think it will produce a folder like "Imported Bookmarks" under your main Bookmarks folder to add those new bookmarks to what is already there.
Scenario #2:
You want the same exact set of bookmarks on all computers. Machine #1 has the bookmarks that you want to copy to all other machines.
In Firefox on Machine #1, go to Bookmarks -> Show All Bookmarks -> Import and Backup -> Backup, then save the .json file to a USB stick.
(http://ibin.co/1fOr2TaX4NCw)
In Firefox on Machine #2, go to Bookmarks -> Show All Bookmarks -> Import and Backup -> Restore -> Choose File, then navigate to the .json file on the USB stick. This option will replace the bookmarks that are currently on Machine #2 with the ones that are on Machine #1.
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Re. do I need to upgrade comments. If it ain't broke... :)
I ran 1.0.4 for nearly a year before switching to 2.0.
Let me rephrase my question. If I have installed Lite Cleaner, Lite Fix, Linux Lite Welcome, etc. as they have become available, and daily updated my system, is there anything different in Linux Lite 2.2 from what I have now with Linux Lite 2.0? :-\
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@Coastie, there will always be differences between releases. As has been mentioned many times in the past, there is no upgrade path for Linux Lite. Will there be one in the future? I don't know yet. I would like to reiterate, that if you have a working, stable operating system there is no compelling reason to upgrade. Now that we have our own repo, it will be easier in the future to create a package that upgrades you, eg. sudo apt-get install lite-upgrade (or similar).Cheers.
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@Coastie, there will always be differences between releases. As has been mentioned many times in the past, there is no upgrade path for Linux Lite. Will there be one in the future? I don't know yet. I would like to reiterate, that if you have a working, stable operating system there is no compelling reason to upgrade. Now that we have our own repo, it will be easier in the future to create a package that upgrades you, eg. sudo apt-get install lite-upgrade (or similar).Cheers.
Thanks, Valtam. I'll download 2.2 when available to a DVD and try it out to see if there is any need to upgrade to it. Also, I'll watch for reviews to see if the reviewer sees anything I missed. 8)
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Hello!
I seem to be missing something here somewhere, so I'll ask:
What are the enhancements in 2.2 over the current version and are they worth doing a reinstall for once it is released, or is it simply enhancements to the installer (Ubiquity)?
73 DE N4RPS
Rob
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Thanks for asking again, Rob. That was what I wanted to know. :D
Also, what is the change in the installer (Ubiquity)? I did not think the installer could get any easier.
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What are the enhancements in 2.2 over the current version and are they worth doing a reinstall for once it is released, or is it simply enhancements to the installer (Ubiquity)?
More details will be released at the time, safe to say for now that some of the enhancements you already have eg. Lite Cleaner etc
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More details will be released at the time, safe to say for now that some of the enhancements you already have eg. Lite Cleaner etc
That is what I was trying to find out. I may already have 2.2 except for the number. 8) When the details are released I can decide if I need to install 2.2.
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Hello!
Okey-dokey...
The 14.04.2 LTS Kernel, based on 14.10, will be coming out soon. Will it be rolled into LL 2.2?
73 DE N4RPS
Rob
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The 14.04.2 LTS Kernel, based on 14.10, will be coming out soon. Will it be rolled into LL 2.2?
LL 2.2 will rock whichever kernel is current at release time, around 3.13.0-24. If you require a newer kernel for unsupported hardware, you can always pick one from the LL repo.
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Backing up bookmarks is easy.
Dude, you rock!
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Hello!
Understood. I look forward to seeing how it all turns out!
73 DE N4RPS
Rob
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I understand that LL2.0 is based on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS , will LL2.2 will be based on Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS release ! Thanx .