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General => Introductions => Topic started by: NN on May 13, 2018, 12:03:03 AM
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Hello, everybody!
I am sorry for my English as it is not my native language. I have recently switched to Linux from Windows which I used for almost 20 years and I am rather an advanced user in Windows, but in Linux I am still a beginner as I have been using it for only about a year or so. I had tried some lightweight distributions until I found Linux Lite 3.8 as XFCE is my favourite desktop environment, and it really revived my old netbook. This distribution is faster compared to Windows, secure and easy to use, although I have some questions on Linux and LL that have led me to this forum.
Many thanks to the developers of LL for your work and such an excellent distribution! All the best to you!
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Hello NN,
Welcome to the forum :)
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Hello NN,
Welcome to the forum :)
Hello, bitsnpcs, and thank you for your warm welcome. :)
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Welcome aboard NN.
Been following your posts...Good Stuff.
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Welcome NN - I'm sure you will be very happy here with LL and its friendly and knowledgeable community forum.Enjoy the journey 8)
I heard through the media, maybe a year ago that Russia, as a whole country, were officially changing from Microsoft Windows to Linux operating systems.Is that true?
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Welcome aboard NN.
Hello, GregO!
Been following your posts...Good Stuff.
Glad to hear it. Thanks.
Welcome NN
Hi, m654321!
- I'm sure you will be very happy here with LL and its friendly and knowledgeable community forum.Enjoy the journey 8)
Frankly speaking, I'm using a very similar alternative distro to LL now, due to its good Russian locale. Shame on me! Though I know English quite enough, Russian makes me feel at home and very comfortable with 'Russian-speaking' Linux.
I heard through the media, maybe a year ago that Russia, as a whole country, were officially changing from Microsoft Windows to Linux operating systems.Is that true?
You know, Russia is a democratic state, not an authoritarian one, so PC users think for themselves what operating system to use, it is fully up to their own decision. By the way, don't believe everything that is spoken on the radio or on TV, or what is written in 'yellow' press. I always do that. There are computers with preinstalled Windows, with preinstalled Linux and fully 'clean' computers in the shops in Russia - anything to a consumer's taste. When my old netboot breaks for ever, I will buy a notebook with preinstalled Linux. It's my choice. :)
Most likely, you have mixed up something. Read this article (https://habr.com/post/222511/) about how Munich switched to Linux. It is in Russian but you can use an online translator or your browser means, if any, to translate the news from Russian into English. Although, the city has recently turned to Windows again, as far as I know. Find out about this strange story about Linux vs Windows on the Internet. :)
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Welcome
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I'm using a very similar alternative distro to LL now, due to its good Russian locale. Shame on me! Though I know English quite enough, Russian makes me feel at home and very comfortable with 'Russian-speaking' Linux.
Therefore, I'd guess that you're using the distro named 'Rosa' ...
Yes, I heard about Munich's administrators officially changing from Windows to Linux. But, I also heard it for Russian administration (not consumers) too - maybe it was 'fake news', as you inferred ...
However, don't you think it would be a wise thing for Russia (or any country for that matter) to use Linux more, as Windows OS has become a bit of a 'big brother' with all it's security flaws ..?
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Welcome
Hi! Thank you.
Therefore, I'd guess that you're using the distro named 'Rosa' ...
No, wrong guess. :) Good Russian in a Linux distro doesn't always mean 'Rosa' only, or other Russian distros. Take another try. Here is a small hint for you - the clue word is '...buntu-like'. As far as I understand, LL is a fork of it.
What an interesting guessing game we are playing now, by the way! :D
Yes, I heard about Munich's administrators officially changing from Windows to Linux. But, I also heard it for Russian administration (not consumers) too - maybe it was 'fake news', as you inferred ...
Maybe only in some very secret organizations, as using Linux is safe - it is not a spyware OS like Windows 10. By the way, MS servers use Linux but not their native offspring - Windows. It's an irony of fate.
However, don't you think it would be a wise thing for Russia (or any country for that matter) to use Linux more, as Windows OS has become a bit of a 'big brother' with all it's security flaws ..?
Great idea! But Windows vs Linux is not simply a question of choice of an ordinary person. A lot of things depend on lobbying on the consumer market, the policy of manufacturers in IT-technologies, trade policy, government policy, mass media and so on. Money rule the world, if you understand what I mean. Alas, Linux is an innocent child in front of MS giant.
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However, don't you think it would be a wise thing for Russia (or any country for that matter) to use Linux more, as Windows OS has become a bit of a 'big brother' with all it's security flaws ..?
I would have put security flaws in quotes ;) "security flaws".
I use this on W10 - https://www.winprivacy.de/english-home/ (https://www.winprivacy.de/english-home/)
Almost scary how many options there are to make it stop (or try to stop) "calling home". :-S
Cheers!
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@NN
Plenty of work to be done yet. Nothing Russian Linux will likely complete until this completes.
https://lists.debian.org/debian-l10n-russian/
TC
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I'm surprised to be honest there isn't a state backed OS for Russia.
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I'm surprised to be honest there isn't a state backed OS for Russia.
You have confused me, as I cannot decide whether you are asking me seriously or not. I would like to return your question to you: are there any countries in the world where operating systems and distributions are state-supported? Thank you in advance for your reply.
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I would have put security flaws in quotes ;) "security flaws".
Yes. I hear, such programs (blocking information leakage) only serve to console users and dull their vigilance since they do not help at all.
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@Jerry
NeoKylin certainly qualifies in China, but I'm not sure Astra is around anymore in Russia. Wow I just looked it up. Yes Astra is still in existence and gaining in success, and certainly qualifies as at least a state darling if not entirely state sponsored.
I have to admit to a chuckle at this point though, as of course such non-community models only create more security holes, not fewer. Special strings by special people are just hacker bait.
TC
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This article on the Russia Nation-OS applies here, but is not dated. :(
http://thefutureofthings.com/3893-russia-to-develop-a-national-os/ (http://thefutureofthings.com/3893-russia-to-develop-a-national-os/)
But, Astra Linux seams to go in the "general" direction.
As for State-Sanctionned. There was a lot of misinformation about this, specially in 2014 when China banned Windows 8.
They even have a "special" Windows 10 version.
Russia, China and well, amost EVERY country do NOT use Windows for Strategic, Defense and other critical systems.
Same would go that you dont use your own familly sedan on Diplomatic Missions I guess.
But propaganda and free Microsoft bashing is always popular. ;)
Cheers!
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This article on the Russia Nation-OS applies here, but is not dated. :(
Journalists are good at making up sensations to make them sellable, and economics operates on the same principles - to make money. Hence, no profit - no support. Is it profitable for a state government to support an operating system which is intellectual and proprietary property of the owner, not the state? No. That's all that can be said about it.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/93/GPLv3_Logo.svg/200px-GPLv3_Logo.svg.png)
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Yeah true Journalism today is hard to find. At least this article mentions sources, etc. which is above the "internet norm". ;)
Reporters seam more to create the news then "report" it. Internet I guess made it worst with everything instanteneous.
I know it's quite "American" but the show "Newsroom" is so awesome about the "Real" news-information, stroungly recommended.
I don't watch TV or read the "regular Joe" newspapers, too much BS and publicity. "Fake news" is more common than not, mesa thinks! (*shut up Jar Jar*)
Cheers!
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I don't watch TV or read the "regular Joe" newspapers, too much BS and publicity. "Fake news" is more common than not, mesa thinks! (*shut up Jar Jar*)
Me too.
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Ah yes, Planet Earth… otherwise known throughout the galaxy as the Bull s**t Continuum.
Don’t take me to your Leaders!!!
Please don’t reply to this reply, I’m just a visitor on my way to Alpha Centauri.
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No fake news here: http://www.astralinux.com/debian.html
Like I said before when Debian is completely translated in Russian (still not the case) most other Linux OSs will be too.
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No fake news here: http://www.astralinux.com/debian.html
Like I said before when Debian is completely translated in Russian (still not the case) most other Linux OSs will be too.
trinidad, look here: https://losst.ru/luchshie-russkie-distributivy-linux :)
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Dropping this subject for now, but code and UI content are two different things.
TC
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Re: Hello from Russia
Adieu from Russia!
P.S. The thread is closed.
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Re: Hello from Russia
Adieu from Russia!
P.S. The thread is closed.
Hooray! May peace prevail again in the forum. :)
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May peace prevail again in the forum. :)
It sounds like a mourning speech, approximately like this: 'rest in peace, dear forum'.
Do you really mean that? Hmm, don't you FEEL the words?
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It sounds like a mourning speech, approximately like this: 'rest in peace, dear forum'.
Do you really mean that? Hmm, don't you FEEL the words?
prevail
prɪˈveɪl/
verb
verb: prevail; 3rd person present: prevails; past tense: prevailed; past participle: prevailed; gerund or present participle: prevailing
1.
prove more powerful or superior.
"it is hard for logic to prevail over emotion"
synonyms: win, win out, win through, triumph, be victorious, be the victor, gain the victory, carry the day, carry all before one, finish first, come out ahead, come out on top, succeed, prove superior, conquer, overcome, gain/achieve mastery, gain ascendancy
However you interpret the above, no more bickering on the forum!