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General => Introductions => Topic started by: Colin23erk on January 27, 2016, 06:30:10 AM
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After fighting and winning a lot battles with problems relating to Linux-Lite the War still goes on and on so for me its time to admit defeat and go back to Windows . For me LL is not, in spite of all the effort put in by the team, a real alternative to Microsoft to make LL a everyday user user-friendly with everything using a GUI rather than needing to learn and type in lots of data using a CLI
Thanks to Everyone who have tried to help me in my many hours of need . Unfortunately the ones who do respond are generally into Terminal Commands but not having learnt this low level language with its syntax its difficult for me. How do I know what to do if I do not get the correct response. Is it me or has the solution provider missed some important detail that they expect I should know etc
At times I made feel that I am inadequate because I want GUI solutions and I am not prepared to learn the CLI. If I wanted to be a real geek I could use basic binary 1's and O's to input / output as that is all a computer deals with . Anything above that level is designed to make life for us humans easier . I want the highest level which at the moment is GUI . I just want to use a computer to run programs and not bother with the OS once I set up its setting to my liking.
I am devoting too much time getting Computers including Smartphones to work without problems . We were promised that computer would save us time but thats not my view - they take time away ?
At the moment Windows 10 is working for me ok . Its not perfect and there is too much change for the sake of style .
Good Luck to you all and my you achieve your dreams
Colin
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Happy Trailz, Rok
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Sad to see a forum regular like yourself leave.
I feel I have to defend Linux Lite in a few matters here, though. In previous posts, you mentioned you're an old dog and you didn't want to learn new tricks. In my opinion, you spent much time trying to make this new trick of Linux Lite work like your old trick of MS Windows. You had some challenges initially getting Linux Lite to work on your hardware. But after you got it working, with the help of the manual and the folks on this forum, you insisted on having Microsoft Wordpad using Wine, or having Abiword, or OpenOffice instead of using the included LibreOffice. LibreOffice is feature rich, but you don't have to use all of those features. You also insisted on dual booting. Learning these things can be a time pit for someone who doesn't want to learn new tricks.
I have helped transition folks from Windows to Linux Lite in your age bracket and I would, as their friend or relative, discourage them from all that. I am an IT professional, and I avoid those potential time pits for myself. I have commented on this forum that Linux Lite has become somewhat boring for me, or a better way to put it is, it's very stable. I just run updates daily, run backups occasionally, create a new Systemback restore point occasionally, and that's it. Most of my time troubleshooting Linux Lite issues is on this forum or helping someone I know make the switch.
During the day, I've put food on the table and gas in the tank solving issues related to Microsoft. I don't want to do that with my own personal computer during the evenings. So stable/boring is where it's at. I'm saddened that you felt your experience was such that it required you leaving the distro. My experience has been otherwise. I wish yours had been, too.
By the way, on your other post, a way to repair Linux Lite is to keep current restore points using Systemback, and revert to them as needed.
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Have to agree with torreydale.
I have Linuxlite running on three machines,two desktops and a laptop.
The laptop is running 2.8 beta.
All running without issue.
After much distro hopping I have found linuxlite to be very stable and reliable.
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@Colin23erk,
Sorry to hear this, I've no idea where you are in the UK.
I will send you a PM, If close enough maybe I can help.
Whilst not a Wizard, I have my PC's running fine & dandy.
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@Colin23erk, sorry to see you leave. I'm sure you'll enjoy windoze far more now that you've been around Linux Lite. :)
Just as an aside to all you techies out there ... I still get terribly frustrated with the "assumed knowledge" syndrome that most of you work with. I don't have an assumed knowledge! I didn't wean from the breast onto computers innards or binary code! I'm just an older lady who dabbles at a computer screen looking for GUI programs and thank my lucky stars that I find something stable and workable, and very practicable. So the next time you offer links and terminal commands think of this and see if you can't come up with something else to help out us oldies instead.
Lynne ... :)
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Thanks Lynne
Colin
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I used to feel just the same. I ran back to windows many times. As a matter of fact I have run back to windows for almost 7 years now and I'm an old dog as well. I know very little of the command line just basic stuff like
sudo apt-get update / upgrade / install
ifconfig
ls pwd and others
However I have this hunger within me to not have windows as my only option. I look at what we have compared to years ago what linux used to be and I'm amazed at the tenacity of the developers of this linux idea. Everyone works so hard to build these os's and give it all for free. I mean like wow THANK YOU to all that make this stuff real.
I even donated this time and I am 100% all Linux now. So no dual boot on my 2 computers. I would also go as far to say that I'm better at problem solving now. Live n learn I guess.
I would feel very terrible complaining about something that is offered as a free alternative to what we call windows. I mean is it not time to take off the damn training wheels and start using a computer like it used to be.
In my opinion LL holds your hand just enough, not to get in your way. I like that.
Jerry I appreciate all the work you do! Keep up the good work.
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Jerry I appreciate all the work you do! Keep up the good work.
Thanks, but I have to say we have a great team here who selflessly give their time to help those in need. At the end of the day you can't force anyone to use linux, the best you can do is point out the unethical behavior of corporates like Microsoft and hope that people place security and ethics over convenience. In reality that very rarely happens in todays world. We have a long, long way to go, but I will never stop the fight. Cheers LinuxNoob :)
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Problems come from nowhere and are inconvenient .
Questions are easy to ask .
Good solutions are Rare .
Comment and suggestions good and bad , helpful or off subject come (like for me with problems) in abundance
Sometimes after lots of hard effort the lack of progress leads to frustration
So we throw the Baby out with the Bathwater
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Sad see some go. Bye Colin
hope you come back to it
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Just a point of clarification. Your profile says you have 256 mb RAM . Is that correct? If so you are getting windows 10 to work on your setup.
I am far from sure that I could get Windows 10 to work on my tosh sat pro A10, even with 1 GB RAM.
The family has two Fujitsu Siemes Si 1520 each with 2 GB RAM - One struggles with Windows 7, the other identical machine "flies" with LL 2.6 - No comparison. Setting up the UK keyboard for LL did need some trial and error though - otherwise worked "out of the box" and VERY stable. Also HDD space usage for LL OS is about half that for Windows 7 !!!
As a silver surfer myself I found the investment in learning different ways was well worth it, especially to get free from the OS/hardware upgrade commercial gravy train so extending the working life of perfectly performing older hardware ( myself included :) )
I had previously tried other versions of linux, but found these either to be too feature rich so that they were slow on my hardware, or too complicated to set up for a complete newbie.
Fortunately I found LL, and it has been a complete success - sole OS now as a SOHO heavy user where reliability/stability is paramount; the forum also providing moral support through the/my transition.
LL certainly deserves more recognition and advocacy. With Windows Vista passed its cell by date and Windows 7 soon to follow, Windows users need to be aware that an alternative OS and support base is available to them.
My only wish is that a reliable speech to text dictation package could be found for LL
my 2ps worth.
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Just a point of clarification. Your profile says you have 256 mb RAM . Is that correct? If so you are getting windows 10 to work on your setup.
Just a guess. But that is probably video card ram.
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Sorry to see ya go. I have been using Linux Lite for 3 years now and I simply love it. My 71 year old Dad has too and just loves it also. But if a person is unwilling to learn the way the system works then I can see the problem already. I just hope that whatever you use that you will not let that keep you away from us here that enjoy your friendship. Maybe one of these days you will want to try again as an enthusiasts on a machine that you can just play with. I wish you all the best with whatever works for you. =]
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Not prepared to learn by heart "Commands ant their syntax " most of which I will never need
Unhappy that I am not proficient enough to use them as they are NOT forgiving ie Command not recognized" if one " "space is missed
I have more than sufficient problems already
Colin
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Colin
Sorry to see you go, however I want to throw in my two bob's worth. I'm in my 63rd year and started learning about computers about 15 years ago. I'd never heard of Linux until about 7-8 years ago when an associate at work mentioned it to me after he heard me complaining about Windows (again). He introduced me to Ubuntu, which at the time was the most popular distro.
I remember starting with 10.04 and absolutely loved it. Ubuntu then switched over to the Unity desktop, which I was not keen on and about 15 months ago, discovered Linux Lite. The terminal commands initially scared the life out of me but over time, I gained the confidence to use them as recommended on the forums. That's as far as I go with them and it's easy to copy and paste from the instructions given.
My point is don't entirely give up on Linux. If you know anybody who has an ageing laptop and doesn't want it, have a tinker with it to give you greater confidence. I've come to admire the passion of Linux people and their willingness to help. Sure, some may come across as "techies" who do assume a level of expertise but they're in the minority.
I do hope you will reconsider Linux - for security, speed and reliability, in my humble opinion no other operating system gets close - that's the big plus.
Paul
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Just a point of clarification. Your profile says you have 256 mb RAM . Is that correct? If so you are getting windows 10 to work on your setup.
Just a guess. But that is probably video card ram.
I think he'll need more ram for W10.....
Added: I agree with Pauloz, grab an old computer try it on that and treat it as a hobby when ever you get bored of windows.
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Sorry to see you go, Colin. I can understand your complaint to some extent. The new versions of Slimjet are not installing on LL, and the recourse is to install them raw using the tar.xz. I think I could pull that off, but I have no idea how it will affect the existing and working older install of Slimjet, or how it would affect the system. So for now I'm sticking with the older Slimjet and hoping for a .deb fix on their end.
But that is fairly unusual. Most everything here runs smoothly, and it is quite rare that I have to use the CLI. I'm definitely more proficient on Windows at this point, including its CLI, but I am learning Linux, and with periodic system images and data backups behind me, the pace and the risk have been manageable. I think LL is pretty much in a sweet spot for Windows transitioners that way.
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Quote from: rokytnji on January 29, 2016, 07:41:13 AM
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Just a point of clarification. Your profile says you have 256 mb RAM . Is that correct? If so you are getting windows 10 to work on your setup.
Just a guess. But that is probably video card ram.
Sorry your putting 2+2 together = win10 is the wrong conclusion ----- Old information + new Netbook = Win10 preinstalled
Thanks for all you inputs - some conciliatory , some hostile that I criticized their god ( Linux Lite ) , some insulting me , some encouraging me to carry on.
On that note I think its time to close this Post Down
Colin
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Not prepared to learn by heart "Commands ant their syntax " ...
I do not use the command line either unless I just copy and past something into the terminal. If I wanted to do that, I would have stuck with DOS. ;D This has never been a problem for me using Linux Lite.
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Quote from: rokytnji on January 29, 2016, 07:41:13 AM
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Just a point of clarification. Your profile says you have 256 mb RAM . Is that correct? If so you are getting windows 10 to work on your setup.
Just a guess. But that is probably video card ram.
Sorry your putting 2+2 together = win10 is the wrong conclusion ----- Old information + new Netbook = Win10 preinstalled
Thanks for all you inputs - some conciliatory , some hostile that I criticized their god ( Linux Lite ) , some insulting me , some encouraging me to carry on.
On that note I think its time to close this Post Down
Colin
Wish you all the best.
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Locked upon request of OP.