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Title: Wine Worpad
Post by: Colin23erk on August 12, 2015, 03:48:44 PM
Using  Terminal I get
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colin@colin-NC110:~$ wine wordpad
fixme:ntdll:NtLockFile I/O completion on lock not implemented yet
colin@colin-NC110:~$


Word Pad eventually opens OK but ---Will this cause any problems later eg Printing and Saving .


Is using the Terminal the only way to open Wine Wordpad - there is NotePad in the  > wine  > Programs > Accessories > Notepad but not Wordpad 

Title: Re: Wine Worpad
Post by: OldGuy on August 12, 2015, 03:57:39 PM
A much simpler solution is to use the text editor in LL, Leafpad.  Not sure what you gain running a Windows text editor under Linux...
Title: Re: Wine Worpad
Post by: torreydale on August 12, 2015, 04:32:29 PM
I'm totally aware that the reason behind your post might be rooted in your curiosity to just see if you could get Wordpad to work in Wine.  If that's the case, I get it.  And if you do get it to work, I'll be paying attention.  But in case that's not your motive, I'll add the following:

To me, Leafpad is more similar to Notepad than Wordpad.  I have not tried to install Wordpad in Wine or know if there is even an option for it.  If you want a lightweight word processor Linux option to Wordpad, and for some reason you didn't want to use LibreOffice Writer, you might want to consider Abiword.  From my experience, the apps built for Linux have much better performance. 

Lastly, if you can open Wordpad in a terminal, then that's not the only way to open it.  You could Create a Launcher/Shortcut for it.

Title: Re: Wine Worpad
Post by: shengchieh on August 12, 2015, 11:03:32 PM
If you don't like leafpad (I don't because it's too basic), install another text editor.  Use synaptic package manager (menu -> install.remove software) and search for text editor.

Some text editors are

http://projects.gnome.org/gedit/ (non-commercial; GEdit)
http://www.jedit.org/ (non-commercial; jEdit)
http://kate-editor.org/ (non-commercial; Kate)
http://kate-editor.org/kwrite (non-commercial; KWrite; uses Kate components)
http://tarot.freeshell.org/leafpad/ (non-commercial; Leafpad)
http://www.nano-editor.org/ (non-commercial; Nano)
http://www.nedit.org/ (non-commercial; NEdit)
http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=10966 (non-commercial; CUTE)
http://scribes.sourceforge.net/ (non-commercial; Scribe)
http://www.sublimetext.com/ (non-commercial; Sublime Text; programming)
http://www.scintilla.org/SciTE.html (non-commercial; SCIntilla/SciTE.html; programming)
http://www.fckeditor.net/ (non-commercial; FCKeditor [internet])
http://mooedit.sourceforge.net/index.html (non-commercial; medit; programming)

Sheng-Chieh


Title: Re: Wine Worpad
Post by: torreydale on August 13, 2015, 01:04:32 AM
Based on Colin's post, it didn't seem to me like he was looking for a text editor.  Furthermore, he's a forum regular, so one could presume that he's familiar with text editor options.  I could be wrong, but my guess is he either likes the challenge of getting Microsoft Wordpad to work in Linux using Wine, or he's looking for a scaled down version of a word processor like Microsoft Wordpad.

@Colin23erk,
I have the answer!  Check this out.
(http://i.imgur.com/hYS0Rng.png)

I got this by doing the following:  Menu->Wine->Browse C:drive.  I opened the windows folder.  Then the system32 folder.  I searched for wordpad.exe.  I clicked on it.  And then it was done.

To make it even sweeter, I created a shortcut as a test.  Just right click on the wordpad.exe file and choose Send To->Desktop (Create Link)

Piece of cake.


Title: Re: Wine Worpad
Post by: JmaCWQ on August 13, 2015, 01:36:39 AM
Wordpad comes with WINE & the right click > Open With option to open files with it stays there once you've done it once.
I find sometimes it will open files the others won't.
For everything else I use Geany - http://www.geany.org/
Title: Re: Wine Worpad
Post by: Colin23erk on August 15, 2015, 05:51:33 AM
Hi everyone
Thanks for the inputs especially


Based on Colin's post, it didn't seem to me like he was looking for a text editor.  Furthermore, he's a forum regular, so one could presume that he's familiar with text editor options.  I could be wrong, but my guess is he either likes the challenge of getting Microsoft Wordpad to work in Linux using Wine, or he's looking for a scaled down version of a word processor like Microsoft Wordpad.

@Colin23erk,
I have the answer!  Check this out.
(http://i.imgur.com/hYS0Rng.png)

I got this by doing the following:  Menu->Wine->Browse C:drive.  I opened the windows folder.  Then the system32 folder.  I searched for wordpad.exe.  I clicked on it.  And then it was done.

To make it even sweeter, I created a shortcut as a test.  Just right click on the wordpad.exe file and choose Send To->Desktop (Create Link)

Piece of cake.



I followed this and it worked great.


I found that it was showing in Menu > Others > Wordpad  but for some reason it will not launch from there ?


You guessed correctly that I wanted a scaled down word processor.
In Windows I used "Jarte" which I found suited my needs . It is supposed to working Linux using Wine but I cannot input any text. That is why I tried to see if Wordpad worked as Jarte was built on Wordpad .

At my age (71) I like to keep things as simple as I can that suffice for my needs . Having lots of bells and whistles that need a large learning curve is a waste of effort if they are never to be used . I have found that RTF files serve  me well and can be read with most programs . I prefer to use a program that RTF is its native format so I do not need to export / etc to get RTF files

[/size][size=78%]Colin [/size]



Title: Re: Wine Worpad
Post by: shaggytwodope on August 15, 2015, 06:23:19 AM
Hi everyone
Thanks for the inputs especially


Based on Colin's post, it didn't seem to me like he was looking for a text editor.  Furthermore, he's a forum regular, so one could presume that he's familiar with text editor options.  I could be wrong, but my guess is he either likes the challenge of getting Microsoft Wordpad to work in Linux using Wine, or he's looking for a scaled down version of a word processor like Microsoft Wordpad.

@Colin23erk,
I have the answer!  Check this out.
(http://i.imgur.com/hYS0Rng.png)

I got this by doing the following:  Menu->Wine->Browse C:drive.  I opened the windows folder.  Then the system32 folder.  I searched for wordpad.exe.  I clicked on it.  And then it was done.

To make it even sweeter, I created a shortcut as a test.  Just right click on the wordpad.exe file and choose Send To->Desktop (Create Link)

Piece of cake.



I followed this and it worked great.


I found that it was showing in Menu > Others > Wordpad  but for some reason it will not launch from there ?


You guessed correctly that I wanted a scaled down word processor.
In Windows I used "Jarte" which I found suited my needs . It is supposed to working Linux using Wine but I cannot input any text. That is why I tried to see if Wordpad worked as Jarte was built on Wordpad .

At my age (71) I like to keep things as simple as I can that suffice for my needs . Having lots of bells and whistles that need a large learning curve is a waste of effort if they are never to be used . I have found that RTF files serve  me well and can be read with most programs . I prefer to use a program that RTF is its native format so I do not need to export / etc to get RTF files

[/size][size=78%]Colin [/size]





I can respect your want to use a fileformat. But not sure if wine would ever fit me. But I know for a fact abiword handles rtf format. Both opening and saving. Consider using that over stuff in wine, while it may run.. its almost always far from ideal.
Title: Re: Wine Worpad
Post by: torreydale on August 17, 2015, 02:13:05 PM
@Colin23erk,

I understand.  If performance becomes an issue with Wordpad, the native word processor (LibreOffice Writer) can be customized to suite your needs.  I think you'll find it feature rich enough for the power users, but lightweight enough for you.  And we're here to help with and shorten any learning curves you encounter.

For example, if you do the following, rich text format (rtf) will become the default format for all documents you create in LibreOffice Writer.

1) Go to Menu->Office->New Document.  LibreOffice Writer will open.
2) Click on Tools, and then Options.
3) In the window that opens, you'll see an arrow next to Load/Save.  Click on that, and then select General.
4) In the section "Default File Format and ODF Settings," select Text document for your Document type and Rich Text for the Always save as option.
5) Then click OK.

From then on, by default, each document you create using LibreOffice Writer will automatically be saved in rich text format.

If there are still too many bells and whistles with LibreOffice Writer, do consider Abiword.  A screenshot can be seen here: http://www.abiword.org/screenshots/AbiWord-2.0-Gnome.png.  It is lightweight and scaled down, and should out-perform Microsoft Wordpad using Wine.

Title: Re: Wine Worpad
Post by: Colin23erk on August 18, 2015, 12:05:03 PM
Hello


Thanks for your input


I had tried AbiWord  but was unhappy with its Default Save option to its own AWT
Checking on Google It appears that it can be changed but only using the Terminal.


http://www.abisource.com/wiki/FAQ/Always_save_as_Word




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Q: How can I make AbiWord save my files in MS Word (*.doc) format by default?[/size][/color][/size]Ubuntu GNU/Linux(tested on Ubuntu 9.04)Go to Applications -> Accessories -> and open a Terminal[/q]
[/font][/size]
  • run this command (requires your own password):
  • sudo gedit /usr/share/abiword-2.6/system.profile Change this content:
  • <SystemDefaults /> Adding this line:
  • <SystemDefaults DefaultSaveFormat=".doc" /> Save and close the text editor, and close the terminal.
  • Note for developers: Is desirable to add a field on the preferences GUI, to make possible the user selects any format in a list as default.[/l]



    Because of the need to be very exact with terminal commands I am not confident about using it .Seeing as the command was supplied I copied and pasted it and got the following result .

    colin@colin-NC110:~$ sudo gedit /usr/share/abiword-2.6/system.profile

    [sudo] password for colin: [/font]
    sudo: gedit: command not found[/font]
    colin@colin-NC110:~$ [/font]

    [/font][/font][/size]
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    As often happens I am left with a further problem to solve my original problem that  I expected  would be solved in AbiWord GUIColin

    [/font]
Title: Re: Wine Worpad
Post by: torreydale on August 18, 2015, 12:29:49 PM
Sorry about that.  I haven't installed Abiword personally.  Surprising that's the case with changing the default Save As in Abiword.  I guess that's the potential downside to something that's scaled down.

I suspect you will get lots of help here with the LibreOffice Suite of office products since it's the default package.  What I wrote yesterday will change your default Save As options if you're interested.

Title: Re: Wine Worpad
Post by: paul1149 on August 18, 2015, 09:22:10 PM
Hi Colin,

That Abiword change is pretty easy to do via a text editor. First right-click and open up the containing folder 'usr/share/abiword' as Administrator. Once in the folder right-click System Profile and open in a text editor. Then paste in the desired default saving format as per that page you linked to (I used .rtf), and Save. Done.


Thank God for Wine, but its integration is not seamless, and it particularly suffers in the area of font smoothing. For those reasons I use it as a fallback only when necessary.
Title: Re: Wine Worpad
Post by: rokytnji on August 19, 2015, 11:57:01 AM
I use TED and forgetta about it. It handles rtf files right out of the box and is a lightweight install also.

Images (https://www.google.com/search?q=ted+word+processor&num=50&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0CCsQsARqFQoTCNDPjcHAtccCFY8IkgodO2AF_Q&biw=1024&bih=449)

Site (http://www.nllgg.nl/Ted/)

It's in your package manager.  But as always. To each their own.
Title: Re: Wine Worpad
Post by: Colin23erk on August 19, 2015, 02:22:44 PM
Thankspaul1149


I tried what you suggested
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That Abiword change is pretty easy to do via a text editor. First right-click and open up the containing folder 'usr/share/abiword' as Administrator. Once in the folder right-click System Profile and open in a text editor. Then paste in the desired default saving format as per that page you linked to (I used .rtf), and Save. Done.
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I used
 
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DefaultSaveFormat=".rtf"

 managed to accidentally  delete the final " and found it will not work without it !!!!!!!


All OK now
Thanks again


Colin
Title: Re: Wine Worpad
Post by: paul1149 on August 19, 2015, 02:30:42 PM
Awesome, Colin. You're very welcome! I think Abi will give you more options than Wordpad.
Title: Re: Wine Worpad
Post by: darrell derrick on August 21, 2015, 11:12:26 PM
Do these things such as Wine, Vm , Vbox, require having windoze installed on the same HDD , such as in Dual Boot config ?thanks,, daryl
Title: Re: Wine Worpad
Post by: torreydale on August 22, 2015, 12:02:23 AM
Wine is a compatibility layer capable of running Windows applications on several operating systems, such as Linux, Mac OSX, & BSD.   It can be installed via Lite Software (Menu, System, Lite Software).  https://www.winehq.org/about/

VM is a virtual machine, a software computer.

Vbox is short for Virtualbox.  It is used to create software based computers, ie. virtual computers.  It can also be installed via Lite Software.  You can install Virtualbox onto Linux Lite, and install other operating systems into a virtual machine within Virtualbox.
https://www.linuxliteos.com/forums/tutorials/how-to-install-test-and-use-linux-lite-in-oracle-virtualbox/msg2019/#msg2019
Title: Re: Wine Worpad
Post by: paul1149 on August 22, 2015, 02:07:46 PM
Wine itself has no licensing issues that I know of. Running Windows itself in a virtual machines, though, does. I'm not sure if using the oem Windows license attached to the original hardware will work when Windows is in a VM.
Title: Re: Wine Worpad
Post by: N4RPS on October 16, 2015, 04:23:51 AM
Hello!

Actually, the WordPad that comes with Windows 7 is quite a powerful little program. It reads and saves documents in many formats, including Office's .docx format...

73 DE N4RPS
Rob
Title: Re: Wine Worpad
Post by: torreydale on October 16, 2015, 08:47:04 AM
To N4RPS,

I take it that would be the "Office Open XML Document" Save as type?