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Title: What happened to the Xiphos Bible program ?
Post by: arky217 on August 10, 2020, 02:40:11 PM
Xiphos is no longer in the LL repository, can it be added back ?
Title: Re: What happened to the Xiphos Bible program ?
Post by: Şerban S. on August 10, 2020, 05:08:58 PM
Xiphos is no longer in the LL repository, can it be added back ?

Hi! :)

You can check this:

https://github.com/crosswire/xiphos/releases/ (https://github.com/crosswire/xiphos/releases/)
Title: Re: What happened to the Xiphos Bible program ?
Post by: firenice03 on August 10, 2020, 11:39:36 PM
@arky217

From the link - if you came across...
"Ubuntu users, surf https://launchpad.net/~pkgcrosswire/+archive/ubuntu/ppa (https://launchpad.net/~pkgcrosswire/+archive/ubuntu/ppa) because Ubuntu no longer supports a certain library package required by Xiphos for editor support. Other mainstream distributions have latest Xiphos in their distribution pipes."


Due to that missing "library" Synaptic wouldn't be able to install it if it was added back....


You can install via the PPA.... BUT ** Know that PPA's can and at some point may break updates....
The manual has good to info to know for adding/removing.. https://www.linuxliteos.com/manual/software.html#ppa


Good luck
Title: Re: What happened to the Xiphos Bible program ?
Post by: Şerban S. on August 11, 2020, 06:11:17 AM
@arky217
[...] You can install via the PPA.... BUT ** Know that PPA's can and at some point may break updates....
The manual has good to info to know for adding/removing.. https://www.linuxliteos.com/manual/software.html#ppa
Good luck

I have some PPAs. Sometime, indeed, for various reasons, they fail to update. It's very easy to proceed with the update. You just follow the error log instructions: uncheck the PPA that failed the update and check it back after update. A few clicks, nothing to delete. Just postpone the update from the server that created the problem. :)
Usually, small Apps lead to this, such as Grub Customizer.
Sometimes it's just a "server down" small window of time so, reviewing the status of the server after a while, might be useful. :)
Also, might be useful to check the development stastus. If the App was abandoned, might be better to leave unchecked the PPA.
There are situations when you need to use a PPA instead of the official repository.
Yesterday I went into trouble with Inkscape. Just refused to copy a selection I needed to copy in a different file. It crushed all the way. That is weird since I have 16 GB of RAM and 4 nucleuses and 8 threads. So resources, were out of question.
I went to the site and saw that there was "a new version". Actually, it is the 1.0 and I thought I had it installed. I checked the version and it was 0.92.1.
I added the PPA and there we are, the bug was solved! :)
However, I have to keep in mind that it may break the updates someday... ;) Like the others, in fact...
It never happened in the latest 18 months or maybe more (I just forgot), but it happened in the distant past so, I learned how to handle this. :)

Best regards and happy Lite-ing! :D
Title: Re: What happened to the Xiphos Bible program ?
Post by: firenice03 on August 11, 2020, 10:42:07 AM

@Şerban S.
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PPA's can and at some point may break updates


I too have used PPA's from time to time and older builds relied more so on them, but alas that 'some point' pops up - these questions are frequently posted...
I'm not saying this particular app is unstable by any means or that this app will eventually break updates...


PPA's in general unfortunately have a track record; and its not a case of a few or many or how many use (installed). Not going to deny there is an ease of use to them; add, update and install.... and repeat.. and forget..??..


For those not fully familiar with Linux; whether it be newcomers transitioning or those that just want a system that easy to use.
Seeing updates error.. is an error.. Might as well be a blue screen  ;D   ;D


The manual covers PPA's in detail, along with a lot of great information to get folks up and running but also keeping their system running smoothly. Pointing to the tools  :)



Title: Re: What happened to the Xiphos Bible program ?
Post by: Şerban S. on August 11, 2020, 02:49:34 PM
@firenice03
Thanks for replying! :)
It's good to have many use cases! :)


[...] older builds relied more so on them, [...]

I noticed that too!
I never upgraded Inkscape manually in years (I guess I'm using it for more than 10 years, just forgot, it's old times...).
This time was so annoying that I had to do something to get rid of this behaviour. I thought maybe I did something wrong. Searching the net, I discovered that it was a bug, reported many times so the only guess available was that it was fixed in the latest stable release. It seems (so far...) it was.
However, the repo version is still 0.92.x and it crushed too many times to be able to cope with this.
As for the other PPAs, it is OK with all. If some server gets down, I uncheck the PPA, then I update later, if any update is available. It's convenient.
I only have a few actually in use, for DVDStyler, OpenShot (2.5.x, Developer), SimpleScreenRecorder, Inkscape (from now...) and Google Chrome.
Except for Inkscape, I have been using those for years and never had trouble, so far.

Maybe this will be useful for people who use those programs. :)

Best regards! :)