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Virtual Box problems - no USB devices and broken package
« on: May 04, 2016, 10:53:18 AM »
 

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Hello,


Trying to get a few Virtual Box machines set up to complete my new office set up, and have encountered problems I haven't run into before. In a Win XP box (only OS that runs my printer...) I cannot get my printer recognized, and for some reason this time I cannot get USB devices recognized by the guest OS.


I went into Synaptic to see if anything was missing, and I guess that the guest utilities are not installed - but I cannot install them because virtualbox-guest-x11 package is broken.


Since I know LL is supposed to curate the Virtual Box software, and I haven't had problems doing this earlier, I thought I should ask here rather than trying to look for a generic answer - can anyone help?
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Re: Virtual Box problems - no USB devices and broken package
« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2016, 11:46:08 AM »
 

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For your guest OSes to recognize USB items connected to your host, you need to install the VirtualBox Extension Pack that matches the version of VirtualBox you are running.  You'll find that at www.virtualbox.org.  Go to the Downloads link.  From there, find the Extension Pack for your version.  After downloading it, I think you just have to double click on the downloaded file and the Extension Pack will install.
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Re: Virtual Box problems - no USB devices and broken package
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2016, 12:01:19 PM »
 

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I downloaded what I believed to be the full extensions via the instructions in the LL manual, again, since I believe that this has been bundled in such a way that I should be following LL instructions. But despite this the mentioned problems have arisen. Should i uninstall and try to reinstall? Irritating, with a VM already set up...
 

Re: Virtual Box problems - no USB devices and broken package
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2016, 12:09:58 PM »
 

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I downloaded what I believed to be the full extensions via the instructions in the LL manual, again, since I believe that this has been bundled in such a way that I should be following LL instructions. But despite this the mentioned problems have arisen. Should i uninstall and try to reinstall? Irritating, with a VM already set up...
No need to re-install... As mentioned you need the correct Extension Pack

As stated in the manual:
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You need to know the version number of your VirtualBox installation in order to download the matching "Extension Pack". It should be version 4.3.10; but double-check that by clicking Help, About VirtualBox from the main VirtualBox window. Then look along bottom of pop-up window for the version number.
For the latest version, go to this VirtualBox webpage. Otherwise, go here, look for your version number and follow same steps as below to continue.

Find the "Extension Pack" listed under the heading for your VirtualBox version and click on All supported platforms to download it. Save the download to your Downloads folder.
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Update: Not sure if 4.3.10 is still the default as there are newer versions - double check your version as labeled.
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Re: Virtual Box problems - no USB devices and broken package
« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2016, 12:12:17 PM »
 

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Yes, as I say, I followed the manual instructions. I have done this, and I have no contact with USB devices and Synaptic reports that my guest additions package is broken.
 

Re: Virtual Box problems - no USB devices and broken package
« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2016, 12:18:19 PM »
 

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Have just doublechecked and I do indeed have the correct extensions pack installed for my version, done according to LL instructions. Now I wonder if I should just get the newest version of Virtual Box and install it and start over again. If proper procedure has left me with non-working extensions and a broken package?
 

Re: Virtual Box problems - no USB devices and broken package
« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2016, 12:26:25 PM »
 

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There is a part where you need to add the user:


From the manual:

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Using USB's in VirtualBox

Assuming you've already added the the VirtualBox "Extension Pack",to begin using USB's in your new VM, you need to add your username to the "vboxusers" group. (You only need to do that once, not for every individual VM you make.) You should perform the following steps while no VM's are open.

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Re: Virtual Box problems - no USB devices and broken package
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There is a part where you need to add the user:

From the manual:

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Using USB's in VirtualBox

Assuming you've already added the the VirtualBox "Extension Pack",to begin using USB's in your new VM, you need to add your username to the "vboxusers" group. (You only need to do that once, not for every individual VM you make.) You should perform the following steps while no VM's are open.

UPDATE:
This info is just past the virtualbox setup..
I still use VB mostly in Windows and been a while since my last LL VB install (still need to get back to) so a tad rusty... :)
but I don't think you necessarily need to reinstall just yet..
Not meaning to jump in on torreydale.. Thought I'd respond/assist before you wiped out your XP install :)
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Re: Virtual Box problems - no USB devices and broken package
« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2016, 12:50:51 PM »
 

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per firenice03
Menu > type user, and open User Manager
Scroll down and tick vboxusers : Then apply , quit, and re-boot.



Note in Windows, The Guest additions are installed by double clicking the "Guest Additions CD" in My Computer:
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Re: Virtual Box problems - no USB devices and broken package
« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2016, 01:00:52 PM »
 

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Ah, thanks! That I did miss.


Re getting Windows to see the guest additions CD, is that an iso file - not sure how you got that to show up.
 

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« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2016, 05:54:07 PM »
 

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OK, everything seems to be working and in order, but the XP box does not see the printer on any of three USB ports. I guess that might have something to do with LL not being able to get it to work reliably, though LL does _see_ it.
 

Re: Virtual Box problems - no USB devices and broken package
« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2016, 06:48:29 PM »
 

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Have just doublechecked and I do indeed have the correct extensions pack installed for my version, done according to LL instructions. Now I wonder if I should just get the newest version of Virtual Box and install it and start over again. If proper procedure has left me with non-working extensions and a broken package?

I did get it to work once a while ago just to play with my MagicJack with a Vbox of windows7 and I believe if memory serves me correctly, you will have to go a set up a USB filter or something like that in where you set up the machine.

oh and when the machine is running you have a menu where you can also load usb devices.

I did get it to work but the MagicJack did not!

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Re: Virtual Box problems - no USB devices and broken package
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OK, everything seems to be working and in order, but the XP box does not see the printer on any of three USB ports. I guess that might have something to do with LL not being able to get it to work reliably, though LL does _see_ it.
Good to hear its working!!!?!

Somethings to try..
- - Not VB/Linux specific but gets you thinking...
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/824366

- - VB and Linux Specific
http://askubuntu.com/questions/48982/how-can-i-connect-usb-printer-in-virtual-box-ose-win-xp


Or as LinuxNoob suggests - a filter maybe needed
some info - https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=65653
Last Edit: May 04, 2016, 10:26:40 PM by firenice03
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Re: Virtual Box problems - no USB devices and broken package
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Regarding "Guest Additions" showing in My Computer
When the Guest is running click on the Devices Menu and select: "Insert Guest Additions CD Image"
The CD image is part of the install




Regarding Printer..
Unless your printer is recognised natively by XP you will still need to install whatever printer software came with it.?
If that's the case...
1. Shut-down Guest, Shut-down Host, and unplug printer
2. Re-boot Host, Start Guest
3. Run Printer software and follow instructions..
    It may prompt you to plugin during install, or tell you to shut-down plugin and re-start.
    You only need to shut-down Guest, plugin and re-start Guest.


USB Printers/Scanner normally pass-thru from Host to Guest, no need to add them in USB devices.
I assume the printer is working under LL O.K.??
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Re: Virtual Box problems - no USB devices and broken package
« Reply #14 on: May 05, 2016, 07:56:57 AM »
 

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I have had no problem getting the additions CD recognized and installed in the XP box (though Windows warned me to stop installing it several times).


I still see no USB devices available though, and wonder if this is referring specifically to memory sticks. I wonder also about input devices, as the options are PS2 mice and tablets, which strikes me as unusual. I don't remember encountering this in my previous VB setups.


The printer process fails at the detect printer stage of installation from the printer CD. I can try to install the printer manually while the install CD tries and fails to find the printer, since the drivers are installed at this point - but XP only offers to locate it on standard LPT and COM ports, not the USB ports. It finds the drivers and pretends it is installed, but can't print to it. I've tried reinstalling by moving the printer around to various USB ports, by restarting it during the process, by rebooting XP while it's on, everything. XP just can't find it.


The big question - does it work under LL? Not really, that's the reason I'm trying to create a little old XP home for it. It is a Canon Pixma ip5000 and is a nightmare. I got it working with a LL laptop, but not consistently. I have never been able to get it to print properly on the desktop LL machine, but it is recognized and usually responds, but tends only to print out in one random color.


Canon stopped supporting the drivers long ago, it really needs a 32-bit XP environment to install properly. When my last ancient laptop running XP dies, a perfectly good if inconvenient printer goes with it, so therefore this project.
 


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