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Title: Two machines stuck on Installing Updates (at the same point)
Post by: Xorcist on September 23, 2015, 09:35:15 AM
I recently setup two Linux Lite 2.6 machines (one 32bit, one 64bit).

When attempting to install updates today, on both machines, the update dialogs got stuck on:

"Processing triggers for menu (2.1.46ubuntu1)..."

Any ideas why this might happen? The only choice I have is to cancel, and it's been like almost a half hour.

Title: Re: Two machines suck on Installing Updates (at the same point)
Post by: torreydale on September 23, 2015, 09:51:16 AM
Can you run the following command in a terminal and post the response?

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sudo apt-get install -f
Title: Re: Two machines suck on Installing Updates (at the same point)
Post by: Xorcist on September 23, 2015, 09:57:08 AM
Here is the output:

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Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.

but the "Installing - Please wait..." dialog is still up? Does this mean it actually completed, but never closed the dialog?
Title: Re: Two machines suck on Installing Updates (at the same point)
Post by: torreydale on September 23, 2015, 10:06:50 AM
Try the following and post that result.

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sudo apt-get update -f
Title: Re: Two machines suck on Installing Updates (at the same point)
Post by: Xorcist on September 23, 2015, 10:17:18 AM
The -f wasn't recognized and threw an errror:

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E: Command line option 'f' [from -f] is not known.

without the -f I get:

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Hit http://repo.steampowered.com precise InRelease
Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty InRelease                             
Ign http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security InRelease                       
Ign http://dl.google.com stable InRelease                                     
Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates InRelease                     
Hit http://download.mono-project.com wheezy InRelease                         
Hit http://repo.steampowered.com precise/steam Sources                         
Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-backports InRelease                   
Get:1 http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security Release.gpg [933 B]           
Hit http://download.mono-project.com wheezy-apache24-compat InRelease         
Ign http://dl.google.com stable InRelease                                     
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty Release.gpg                           
Hit http://repo.linuxliteos.com beryl InRelease                               
Hit http://download.mono-project.com wheezy/main i386 Packages                 
Get:2 http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security Release [63.5 kB]             
Get:3 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates Release.gpg [933 B]         
Hit http://dl.google.com stable Release.gpg                                   
Ign http://archive.canonical.com trusty InRelease                             
Hit http://repo.steampowered.com precise/steam amd64 Packages                 
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-backports Release.gpg                 
Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty InRelease                                 
Hit http://repo.linuxliteos.com beryl/main i386 Packages                       
Hit http://repo.steampowered.com precise/steam i386 Packages                   
Hit http://dl.google.com stable Release.gpg                                   
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty Release                               
Get:4 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates Release [63.5 kB]           
Hit http://dl.google.com stable Release                                       
Hit http://archive.canonical.com trusty Release.gpg                           
Get:5 http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/main Sources [95.8 kB]       
Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty InRelease                                 
Hit http://dl.google.com stable Release                                       
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-backports Release                     
Hit http://archive.canonical.com trusty Release                               
Hit http://dl.google.com stable/main i386 Packages                             
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/main Sources                           
Get:6 http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/restricted Sources [2,061 B] 
Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty InRelease                                 
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/restricted Sources                     
Get:7 http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/universe Sources [30.6 kB]   
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/universe Sources                       
Get:8 http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/multiverse Sources [2,341 B] 
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/multiverse Sources                     
Hit http://download.mono-project.com wheezy-apache24-compat/main i386 Packages
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/main i386 Packages                     
Get:9 http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/main i386 Packages [328 kB]   
Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty InRelease                                 
Hit http://dl.google.com stable/main i386 Packages                             
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/restricted i386 Packages               
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/universe i386 Packages                 
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/multiverse i386 Packages               
Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty InRelease                                 
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/main Translation-en                   
Get:10 http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/restricted i386 Packages [8,846 B]
Hit http://archive.canonical.com trusty/partner i386 Packages                 
Get:11 http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/universe i386 Packages [116 kB]
Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty Release.gpg                               
Ign http://repo.linuxliteos.com beryl/main Translation-en_US                   
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/multiverse Translation-en             
Hit http://archive.canonical.com trusty/partner Translation-en                 
Get:12 http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/multiverse i386 Packages [3,833 B]
Ign http://repo.linuxliteos.com beryl/main Translation-en                     
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/main Translation-en             
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/restricted Translation-en             
Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty Release.gpg                               
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/multiverse Translation-en       
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/restricted Translation-en       
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/universe Translation-en               
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/universe Translation-en         
Get:13 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/main Sources [235 kB]       
Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty Release.gpg                               
Get:14 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/restricted Sources [4,725 B]
Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty Release.gpg                               
Get:15 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/universe Sources [136 kB]   
Get:16 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/multiverse Sources [5,144 B]
Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty Release.gpg                               
Get:17 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/main i386 Packages [602 kB]
Ign https://www.plasticscm.com ./ InRelease                                   
Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty Release                                   
Ign https://www.plasticscm.com ./ InRelease                                   
Hit https://www.plasticscm.com ./ Release.gpg                                 
Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty Release                                   
Get:18 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/restricted i386 Packages [15.1 kB]
Hit https://www.plasticscm.com ./ Release.gpg                                 
Get:19 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/universe i386 Packages [314 kB]
Hit https://www.plasticscm.com ./ Release                                     
Hit https://www.plasticscm.com ./ Release                                     
Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty Release                                   
Ign http://repo.steampowered.com precise/steam Translation-en_US               
Hit https://www.plasticscm.com ./ Packages                                     
Ign http://repo.steampowered.com precise/steam Translation-en                 
Get:20 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/multiverse i386 Packages [12.1 kB]
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/main Translation-en           
Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty Release                                   
Ign http://dl.google.com stable/main Translation-en_US                         
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/multiverse Translation-en     
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/restricted Translation-en     
Ign http://dl.google.com stable/main Translation-en                           
Hit https://www.plasticscm.com ./ Packages                                     
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/universe Translation-en       
Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty Release                                   
Ign http://dl.google.com stable/main Translation-en_US                         
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-backports/main Sources                 
Ign http://dl.google.com stable/main Translation-en                           
Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty/main i386 Packages                         
Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty/main Translation-en                       
Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty/main i386 Packages                         
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-backports/restricted Sources           
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-backports/universe Sources             
Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty/main Translation-en                       
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-backports/multiverse Sources           
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-backports/main i386 Packages           
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-backports/restricted i386 Packages     
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-backports/universe i386 Packages       
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-backports/multiverse i386 Packages     
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-backports/main Translation-en         
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-backports/multiverse Translation-en   
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-backports/restricted Translation-en   
Ign http://download.mono-project.com wheezy/main Translation-en_US             
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-backports/universe Translation-en     
Ign http://download.mono-project.com wheezy/main Translation-en               
Ign https://www.plasticscm.com ./ Translation-en_US                           
Ign https://www.plasticscm.com ./ Translation-en                               
Ign http://download.mono-project.com wheezy-apache24-compat/main Translation-en_US
Ign https://www.plasticscm.com ./ Translation-en_US                           
Ign https://www.plasticscm.com ./ Translation-en                               
Ign http://download.mono-project.com wheezy-apache24-compat/main Translation-en
Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty/main i386 Packages                         
Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty/main Translation-en                       
Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty/main i386 Packages                         
Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty/main Translation-en                       
Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/main Translation-en_US                 
Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/multiverse Translation-en_US           
Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/restricted Translation-en_US           
Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty/main i386 Packages                         
Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/universe Translation-en_US             
Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty/main Translation-en                       
Fetched 2,040 kB in 7s (280 kB/s)                                             
Reading package lists... Done
Title: Re: Two machines suck on Installing Updates (at the same point)
Post by: torreydale on September 23, 2015, 10:21:28 AM
Ok.  Now try this and post the full output.

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sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
Title: Re: Two machines suck on Installing Updates (at the same point)
Post by: Xorcist on September 23, 2015, 10:37:48 AM
Here is the output:

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Hit http://repo.steampowered.com precise InRelease
Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty InRelease                             
Ign http://dl.google.com stable InRelease                                     
Hit http://download.mono-project.com wheezy InRelease                         
Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates InRelease                     
Hit http://download.mono-project.com wheezy-apache24-compat InRelease         
Ign http://dl.google.com stable InRelease                                     
Hit http://repo.steampowered.com precise/steam Sources                         
Hit http://download.mono-project.com wheezy/main i386 Packages                 
Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-backports InRelease                   
Hit http://dl.google.com stable Release.gpg                                   
Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty InRelease                                 
Hit http://repo.steampowered.com precise/steam amd64 Packages                 
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty Release.gpg                           
Hit http://repo.linuxliteos.com beryl InRelease                               
Hit http://dl.google.com stable Release.gpg                                   
Hit http://repo.steampowered.com precise/steam i386 Packages                   
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates Release.gpg                   
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-backports Release.gpg                 
Hit http://dl.google.com stable Release                                       
Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty InRelease                                 
Hit http://repo.linuxliteos.com beryl/main i386 Packages                       
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty Release                               
Hit http://dl.google.com stable Release                                       
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates Release                       
Hit http://dl.google.com stable/main i386 Packages                             
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-backports Release                     
Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty InRelease                                 
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/main Sources                           
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/restricted Sources                     
Hit http://download.mono-project.com wheezy-apache24-compat/main i386 Packages
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/universe Sources                       
Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty InRelease                                 
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/multiverse Sources                     
Hit http://dl.google.com stable/main i386 Packages                             
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/main i386 Packages                     
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/restricted i386 Packages               
Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty InRelease                                 
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/universe i386 Packages                 
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/multiverse i386 Packages               
Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty Release.gpg                               
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/main Translation-en                   
Ign http://repo.linuxliteos.com beryl/main Translation-en_US                   
Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty Release.gpg                               
Ign http://repo.linuxliteos.com beryl/main Translation-en                     
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/multiverse Translation-en             
Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty Release.gpg                               
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/restricted Translation-en             
Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty Release.gpg                               
Ign https://www.plasticscm.com ./ InRelease                                   
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/universe Translation-en               
Ign https://www.plasticscm.com ./ InRelease                                   
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/main Sources                   
Hit https://www.plasticscm.com ./ Release.gpg                                 
Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty Release.gpg                               
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/restricted Sources             
Hit https://www.plasticscm.com ./ Release.gpg                                 
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/universe Sources               
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/multiverse Sources             
Hit https://www.plasticscm.com ./ Release                                     
Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty Release                                   
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/main i386 Packages             
Hit https://www.plasticscm.com ./ Release                                     
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/restricted i386 Packages       
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/universe i386 Packages         
Hit https://www.plasticscm.com ./ Packages                                     
Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty Release                                   
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/multiverse i386 Packages       
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/main Translation-en           
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/multiverse Translation-en     
Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty Release                                   
Hit https://www.plasticscm.com ./ Packages                                     
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/restricted Translation-en     
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/universe Translation-en       
Ign http://dl.google.com stable/main Translation-en_US                         
Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty Release                                   
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-backports/main Sources                 
Ign http://dl.google.com stable/main Translation-en                           
Ign http://dl.google.com stable/main Translation-en_US                         
Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty Release                                   
Ign http://dl.google.com stable/main Translation-en                           
Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty/main i386 Packages                         
Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty/main Translation-en                       
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-backports/restricted Sources           
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-backports/universe Sources             
Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty/main i386 Packages                         
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-backports/multiverse Sources           
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-backports/main i386 Packages           
Ign https://www.plasticscm.com ./ Translation-en_US                           
Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty/main Translation-en                       
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-backports/restricted i386 Packages     
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-backports/universe i386 Packages       
Ign https://www.plasticscm.com ./ Translation-en                               
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-backports/multiverse i386 Packages     
Ign https://www.plasticscm.com ./ Translation-en_US                           
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-backports/main Translation-en         
Ign https://www.plasticscm.com ./ Translation-en                               
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-backports/multiverse Translation-en   
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-backports/restricted Translation-en   
Ign http://repo.steampowered.com precise/steam Translation-en_US               
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-backports/universe Translation-en     
Ign http://download.mono-project.com wheezy/main Translation-en_US             
Ign http://download.mono-project.com wheezy/main Translation-en               
Ign http://repo.steampowered.com precise/steam Translation-en                 
Ign http://download.mono-project.com wheezy-apache24-compat/main Translation-en_US
Ign http://download.mono-project.com wheezy-apache24-compat/main Translation-en
Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty/main i386 Packages                         
Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty/main Translation-en                       
Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty/main i386 Packages                         
Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty/main Translation-en                       
Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/main Translation-en_US                 
Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty/main i386 Packages                         
Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/multiverse Translation-en_US           
Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/restricted Translation-en_US           
Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/universe Translation-en_US             
Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty/main Translation-en                       
Ign http://archive.canonical.com trusty InRelease                             
Ign http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security InRelease                       
Hit http://archive.canonical.com trusty Release.gpg
Get:1 http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security Release.gpg [933 B]
Hit http://archive.canonical.com trusty Release
Get:2 http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security Release [63.5 kB] 
Hit http://archive.canonical.com trusty/partner i386 Packages                 
Ign http://archive.canonical.com trusty/partner Translation-en       
Get:3 http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/main Sources [95.8 kB]
Get:4 http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/restricted Sources [2,061 B]
Get:5 http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/universe Sources [30.6 kB]
Get:6 http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/multiverse Sources [2,341 B]
Get:7 http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/main i386 Packages [328 kB]
Get:8 http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/restricted i386 Packages [8,846 B]
Get:9 http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/universe i386 Packages [116 kB]
Get:10 http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/multiverse i386 Packages [3,833 B]
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/main Translation-en             
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/multiverse Translation-en       
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/restricted Translation-en       
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/universe Translation-en         
Fetched 652 kB in 7s (87.9 kB/s)                                               
Reading package lists... Done
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.

The dialog is still at the same point.
Title: Re: Two machines suck on Installing Updates (at the same point)
Post by: torreydale on September 23, 2015, 11:02:09 AM
Ok.  I was hoping the output would show what happens right before you get stuck.  If you could get a log showing that, it would help.  But I understand your only option when running Install Updates is to use the Cancel button.

Let's try this:
1) Menu, System, Install/Remove Software. 
2) Click on Edit, Mark All Upgrades. 
3) Click on Edit, Apply Marked Changes.

You might also try Edit, Fix Broken Packages.

Also, do you recall what you last installed?  Looking up your error online, it often seems like it was related to something the user recently installed.
Title: Re: Two machines suck on Installing Updates (at the same point)
Post by: Xorcist on September 23, 2015, 11:22:15 AM
"Mark All Upgrades" did not select any packages.

I think the last package to get installed was Plastic SCM, but I've done a few updates in the past without issue.

This was the first time it hung on me, and it was strange it did it on both systems, though they are setup identically (save for one being 32bit and the other being 64bit).

I ended up just canceling, I think I'll start updating from the commandline so I can see where it gets stuck in the future.

Too bad there wasn't a way to show that through the GUI, currently seems you can only view the log at the end of the process.
Title: Re: Two machines suck on Installing Updates (at the same point)
Post by: torreydale on September 23, 2015, 11:39:15 AM
If you don't get the issue from the command I supplied, but you do with the GUI, then the GUI runs a different command.  I wouldn't recommend giving up on the GUI.  It's doing what it's supposed to do.  And in your case, it's letting us know something is odd.  The GUI also more than likely produces a log even when you cancel out of the process.  I just don't know where that log file is.  Perhaps someone else will chime in.

Did you try Edit, Fix Broken Packages within Install/Remove Software?

Also consider Lite Tweaks (Menu, System, Lite Tweaks).  The Autoremove Packages and Package Cache are safe options. 
Title: Re: Two machines suck on Installing Updates (at the same point)
Post by: Xorcist on September 23, 2015, 11:42:24 AM
I'll keep my eye on it for future updates and see if I can narrow it down. I'll post in this thread if I get more info.
Title: Re: Two machines suck on Installing Updates (at the same point)
Post by: avj on September 23, 2015, 12:38:25 PM
I am no expert, but the first thing that sticks out to me is that you have debian repositories in your sources. As far as I am aware this is a bad idea.
more info here:  https://askubuntu.com/a/346741

from a link at the above answer, "If you added Debian's experimental software sources to your Ubuntu system, they would almost always have higher-versioned packages than provided by the Ubuntu software sources (since most Ubuntu packages come from Debian). Consequently all the software in your system would be upgraded to the Debian experimental versions. This upgrade process would very likely fail, leaving your system or the package manager in a non-functional state."

As far as I know this applies to all packages from debian repositories being used in Ubuntu and Ubuntu based operating systems.
Title: Re: Two machines suck on Installing Updates (at the same point)
Post by: Xorcist on September 23, 2015, 01:12:02 PM
Oh wow, I wasn't aware of that.

Unfortunately I needed the lastest version of MonoDevelop (so I followed the instructions below):

http://www.mono-project.com/docs/getting-started/install/linux/

I'm assuming those are the debian packages you are refering to.

Title: Re: Two machines suck on Installing Updates (at the same point)
Post by: avj on September 23, 2015, 01:22:07 PM
These are the sources I was referring to:

Hit http://download.mono-project.com wheezy/main i386 Packages
Hit http://download.mono-project.com wheezy-apache24-compat/main i386 Packages

Just from personal experience every time I tried to mix sources from Debian to Ubuntu, I was left with a broken system.
Title: Re: Two machines suck on Installing Updates (at the same point)
Post by: rokytnji on September 23, 2015, 01:59:03 PM
avj is right you know. But it is your box. Already you suffer from poisoning the well.
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  Edit the repository sources list  This is an optional, labor intensive method. Do this at your own risk. Modify the default Ubuntu sources.list only if you understand what you're doing.  Mixing repositories can break your system.

Source (http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Trusty_Packages_and_Repositories#Third_party_repositories)
Title: Re: Two machines suck on Installing Updates (at the same point)
Post by: Xorcist on September 23, 2015, 05:42:26 PM
Well I definitely don't want to hose my OS, the whole point of installing MonoDevelop in the first place was to continue to develop .NET applications, but under Linux (since I don't intend to continue using Windows beyond Windows 7, but I still need to develop for it). Since these are new installations of Linux Lite, I can redo them without too much impact. Would that be the recommended process? or is there a way to roll back from my current MonoDevelop installation and then install an older one from the default repositories.
Title: Re: Two machines suck on Installing Updates (at the same point)
Post by: rokytnji on September 23, 2015, 07:03:45 PM
Just wondering? Not pretending to understand what you are needing either. Being a Linux using biker and all.
But have you looked at

https://github.com/dotnet (https://github.com/dotnet)

That is where Microsoft is porting .net to be able to be worked on in Linux.
Quote
Announcing .NET 2015 - .NET as Open Source, .NET on Mac and Linux, and Visual Studio Community (http://www.hanselman.com/blog/AnnouncingNET2015NETAsOpenSourceNETOnMacAndLinuxAndVisualStudioCommunity.aspx)(http://www.hanselman.com/blog/content/binary/Windows-Live-Writer/Announcing-.NET-in-your-Editor-of-Choice_E16B/image_3379f52c-2764-4a61-8b29-7bff2dc68dde.png)


Edit: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/monodevelop (http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/monodevelop)

(http://screenshots.debian.net/screenshots/m/monodevelop/879_large.png)
Title: Re: Two machines suck on Installing Updates (at the same point)
Post by: Xorcist on September 29, 2015, 08:45:58 AM
Yeah the official Ubuntu 14.04 PPAs will let me install MonoDevelop v4.0, but it's a bit old. The current version is v5.9 and there have been many bug fixes and feature editions since v4.0. I could always attempt to build it from source (but that's another bag of worms). A friend recommended I search across LauchPad.net fist , and I found this PPA:

https://launchpad.net/~ermshiperete/+archive/ubuntu/monodevelop-beta

which appears to include v5.9.0.431 built for 14.04 (trusty).

Still being new to Linux, I figured I'd ask you guys if that seems like a legit way to get the software I need without having to build it myself.


** Strangely enough, the repo listed above is listed as obsolete, and then points to the original instructions I followed that had me add the Debian PPAs to my system...
Title: Re: Two machines suck on Installing Updates (at the same point)
Post by: rokytnji on September 29, 2015, 10:27:35 AM

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* Strangely enough, the repo listed above is listed as obsolete, and then points to the original instructions I followed that had me add the Debian PPAs to my system...

I guess the maintainer has other issues in life.

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Latest updates

    mono-4 , 21 weeks ago
    Successfully built

Reminds me of Sis, Savage, Via, graphics driver maintainer also.
Sadly, we are few and far between. I used to maintain pianobar for Puppy Linux users till I got burned out doing it every week trying to keep up with pandora breaking it on purpose. 

Title: Re: Two machines suck on Installing Updates (at the same point)
Post by: torreydale on September 29, 2015, 11:00:09 AM
In the subject of this thread, can you change the word "suck" to "stuck"?
Title: Re: Two machines suck on Installing Updates (at the same point)
Post by: Xorcist on September 29, 2015, 02:03:52 PM
In the subject of this thread, can you change the word "suck" to "stuck"?

Oh wow, sorry, that was a legitimate typo. I've fixed it.

Title: Re: Two machines suck on Installing Updates (at the same point)
Post by: Xorcist on October 07, 2015, 04:35:50 PM

That is where Microsoft is porting .net to be able to be worked on in Linux.
Quote
Announcing .NET 2015 - .NET as Open Source, .NET on Mac and Linux, and Visual Studio Community (http://www.hanselman.com/blog/AnnouncingNET2015NETAsOpenSourceNETOnMacAndLinuxAndVisualStudioCommunity.aspx)(http://www.hanselman.com/blog/content/binary/Windows-Live-Writer/Announcing-.NET-in-your-Editor-of-Choice_E16B/image_3379f52c-2764-4a61-8b29-7bff2dc68dde.png)


So I started to investigate .NET Core, but ran into the same exact issue... check out the "Installing .NET Core on Linux" documentation:

http://dotnet.readthedocs.org/en/latest/getting-started/installing-core-linux.html (http://dotnet.readthedocs.org/en/latest/getting-started/installing-core-linux.html)

it asks me to install the latest mono, and points me to more Debian packages.

Code: [Select]
sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 3FA7E0328081BFF6A14DA29AA6A19B38D3D831EF
echo "deb http://download.mono-project.com/repo/debian wheezy main" | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mono-xamarin.list
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install mono-complete

but reading over that guide it states the .NET 5 Core team is using Ubuntu 14.04 LTS, so they're including Debian repos under Ubuntu as well... it seems like this is pretty much unavoidable if I want to keep to LTS, but develop using the latest tools. I mean I was able to get Visual Studio Code (their cross platform editor) installed and running without issue (it was just a zip). But now I'm at another road block.

anyone have any other suggestions?
Title: Re: Two machines suck on Installing Updates (at the same point)
Post by: Xorcist on October 19, 2015, 03:30:35 PM
If you don't get the issue from the command I supplied, but you do with the GUI, then the GUI runs a different command.  I wouldn't recommend giving up on the GUI.  It's doing what it's supposed to do.  And in your case, it's letting us know something is odd.  The GUI also more than likely produces a log even when you cancel out of the process.  I just don't know where that log file is.  Perhaps someone else will chime in.

Did you try Edit, Fix Broken Packages within Install/Remove Software?

Also consider Lite Tweaks (Menu, System, Lite Tweaks).  The Autoremove Packages and Package Cache are safe options.

Just as a heads up, it appears the GUI updater is a script run from /usr/scripts/updates-gui and it generates a log in /var/logs/llupdates.log. However I'm not sure if this file is generated line for line while the updates are running, or if it is only generated after the updates are done all in one shot. Just wanted to let you know, since I was able to track these down.