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Re: SystemD - Linux Lite Guide
« Reply #31 on: June 10, 2019, 08:51:17 AM »
 

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Hello, I use an Asus eeebox 1501b with 2 go ram and i notice that the unity gets warm quickly after boot and stays so.
Anything I can fix here:

Memory Usage: 1330/1993MB (66.73%)
Disk Usage: 12/293GB (5%)
with just the default pdf reader open and firefox

  17.567s dev-sda1.device
         16.051s ufw.service
         15.079s keyboard-setup.service
         15.027s lvm2-monitor.service
         14.793s systemd-journal-flush.service
         14.598s systemd-modules-load.service
         14.516s systemd-tmpfiles-setup-dev.service
          6.590s NetworkManager-wait-online.service
          3.413s swapfile.swap
          3.169s udisks2.service
          2.718s NetworkManager.service
          2.682s networkd-dispatcher.service
          2.498s accounts-daemon.service
          2.289s ModemManager.service
          2.126s grub-common.service
          2.029s fstrim.service
          2.017s nmbd.service
          1.983s systemd-random-seed.service
          1.878s preload.service
          1.833s motd-news.service
          1.804s plymouth-quit-wait.service
          1.801s lightdm.service
          1.747s wpa_supplicant.service


 

Re: SystemD - Linux Lite Guide
« Reply #30 on: May 15, 2019, 08:45:37 AM »
 

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Hi Jerry,

Still trying to get my life back together after the loss of my mother..

I periodically take a peak to see what's happening... LL is maturing nicely

Looks good.. Great idea.

It's an old thread where I commented on way back 2016... seems like only yesterday :)


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Re: SystemD - Linux Lite Guide
« Reply #29 on: May 15, 2019, 08:14:17 AM »
 

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I like it Jerry. Seems to fit with the LL philosophy: something that would not seem foreign to Windows users in its similarity to Microsoft Common Console applications. The systemd system manager for Debian always reminded me of those same MSC applications in Windows.

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Thanks TC. I look for gaps in point and click configuration and try to fill them as simple as possible.
 

Re: SystemD - Linux Lite Guide
« Reply #28 on: May 15, 2019, 08:03:01 AM »
 

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Hi Jerry,

Still trying to get my life back together after the loss of my mother..

I periodically take a peak to see what's happening... LL is maturing nicely

Looks good.. Great idea.

It's an old thread where I commented on way back 2016... seems like only yesterday :)


Great to have you around again :)
 

Re: SystemD - Linux Lite Guide
« Reply #27 on: May 15, 2019, 07:56:51 AM »
 

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I like it Jerry. Seems to fit with the LL philosophy: something that would not seem foreign to Windows users in its similarity to Microsoft Common Console applications. The systemd system manager for Debian always reminded me of those same MSC applications in Windows.

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Re: SystemD - Linux Lite Guide
« Reply #26 on: May 14, 2019, 06:40:39 AM »
 

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Not sure if this will go into Lite Tweaks or as a standalone app. Either way, this will make it so easy for people to get us to help them with any start up issues

Hi Jerry,

Still trying to get my life back together after the loss of my mother..

I periodically take a peak to see what's happening... LL is maturing nicely

Looks good.. Great idea.

It's an old thread where I commented on way back 2016... seems like only yesterday :)
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Re: SystemD - Linux Lite Guide
« Reply #25 on: May 14, 2019, 12:20:03 AM »
 

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Not sure if this will go into Lite Tweaks or as a standalone app. Either way, this will make it so easy for people to get us to help them with any start up issues:

 

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« Reply #24 on: June 09, 2017, 04:03:47 AM »
 

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SystemD Manager 1.0.2 for Linux Lite has been updated on our repo.
 

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« Reply #23 on: July 05, 2016, 05:25:55 PM »
 

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Hello!

My first opinion after glazing at that screenshot you posted: make the description easier to understand. No difficult languages, no hard-to-read abracadabra. Just plain, simple, easy to read and understand explanation for any "dummy". Too much difficult and technical stuff will scare off the inexperienced user.

That's the idea.

Turn THIS loose on some n00bs, and you'll have people trashing their installs left and right - most of the time, without even realizing what they're doing.

In MY case, guilty as charged. After all, why do you think I say, "Knows just enough about Linux to be DANGEROUS"???

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Re: SystemD - Linux Lite Guide
« Reply #22 on: July 05, 2016, 05:42:27 AM »
 

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Added a how-to create a systemd service to original post.
 

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« Reply #21 on: June 27, 2016, 06:56:14 AM »
 

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Hello!

I agree. The LAST thing you'd want to do is to give n00bs fire to play with.

Besides, NOTHING speeds up boot times (and everything else) like an SSD...

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« Reply #20 on: June 13, 2016, 12:09:02 PM »
 

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« Reply #19 on: May 30, 2016, 04:58:07 AM »
 

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@nomko

Again, it's not that simple...
Let's assume a clean install of LL out of the box as 50 services running, so that 50 lots of dev time to re-write what they do in "plain English", times that by each language.?
Then the dev's have to work out all the interdependency's, just for the standard ones, how much time is that.??

Now you have your clean install, and start installing other programs, some of which will have services, who is going to re-write those in simple terms.?
The LL devs have no idea what users are going to install, they can't re-write every explanation for every service.?
Then you have the interdependency's, who going to work out all those.?

It would be 100's & 100's of hours of work for the devs.??
I would rather have the devs work on a solid, stable LL itself,
rather than something that will be of interest to a small number of users.


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Re: SystemD - Linux Lite Guide
« Reply #18 on: May 30, 2016, 03:51:34 AM »
 

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This is a dilemma, the tool allows users to enable and disable certain services, by it's nature it is technical.
With no disrespect to you(or other users) unless you fully understand the "technical" impact(implication) of enabling/disabling certain things you could break your install, or stop it booting.
You may think "oh that looks O.K to disable, but something else may rely on that service." It needs to be used with caution.

That's what i ment. By making the explanation more "dummy" proof these mistakes can be avoided. With too much technical abracadabra and a lesser understanding the mistake is made easier. If the explanation was made in such way that it also shows which applications rely on which service, it can be prevented that some system dependent services are shut down with unwanted results. Or, when turning off a service, some pop-up dialog box appears informing the users that the service they try to shut down is also required for application (...). It can be done easily. But i agree with you that any change has to be done with precaution, experienced user or not.
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Re: SystemD - Linux Lite Guide
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