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Title: Opera Browser Install
Post by: 1032 on October 15, 2017, 08:31:11 PM
I'm feeling stupid and helpless. Windows process is to go to cnet, download, double click to install, open, use. I looked in synaptic for Opera browser. Not there. Went to cnet, no Linux version. I am not understanding this. Is it right in front of me and I am not seeing it?
Title: Re: Opera Browser Install
Post by: supergamer on October 15, 2017, 08:48:57 PM
I'm going to give advice as Opera is not open source so that is why it is not included in any Linux Distro's. Google Opera Linux and it should take you to the official site to download the .deb file. Get the correct one for Ubuntu 16.04 and either 32 or 64 bit that you have installed. After the download is done, right click on the file you downloaded and open with GDebi Package Installer, put in the password and it should install the package. You can also search and see if there is  ppa for Opera for Ubuntu 16.04. Use google and search the forums for how to add a ppa.
Title: Re: Opera Browser Install
Post by: 1032 on October 15, 2017, 10:12:07 PM
Thanks.
Title: Re: Opera Browser Install
Post by: Artim on October 16, 2017, 05:38:32 AM
The same holds true for that Seamonkey browser you were looking for.  When you're trying to get software that is not in the repositories you literally have to add another repository (called a PPA for Personal Package Archive), which is why we need the "command line" (terminal).

Unlike Opera (no offense, @Vera ), Seamonkey is fully open-source, free software and it will be completely familiar to you, as a Firefox/Thunderbird user):

Open the terminal and type this:

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sudo thunar and enter your root password.

This opens the File Manager in "super user" (Administrator, or in Linux, 'Root') mode.  You have to be root in order to edit the software sources file.

Navigate to etc/apt/sources and find the file named sources.list.  Right-click on the file and open it with Text Editor.

Add this line to the the bottom of the sources.list file:
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deb http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/ubuntuzilla/mozilla/apt (http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/ubuntuzilla/mozilla/apt) all main
Save and close the file. Then run the following command to import Ubuntuzilla public key to your keyring so that 
the integrity of packages downloaded from this repository can be verified by APT.

In the terminal type:

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sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 2667CA5C
And then
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sudo apt-get update

(wait for it to update, and when it's finished,


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sudo apt-get install seamonkey-mozilla-build
This will not only install Seamonkey for you, but will also add it's PPA to your software sources 
so that it will be included in future updates.

Opera probably has a PPA too, but be careful about adding a whole bunch of PPAs to Linux Lite.

I really hope this helps.

Title: Re: Opera Browser Install
Post by: Vera on October 16, 2017, 09:48:54 AM
Whoops sorry 1032, while Opera does appear for me in Synaptic, that's probably because I already had it installed (I'd installed it awhile ago, using the exact method that @supergamer mentioned from http://www.opera.com/ (http://www.opera.com/) - there is a download button right there, and afterward when you right click on the downloaded package icon make sure to go for "open as administrator", then it will automagically install) . I didn't bother with manually adding a ppa. My version of Opera alerts me if there is an Opera update available.

So Opera would not normally appear in Synaptic (at least not unless you'd already installed it using other means like I did). Sorry about that, I didn't realize that until today.

Yes @RandomBoy is correct that Opera is not open source. This is not a big deal to me, even though I like open source software in general. But I understand that this can be a deal-breaker to some.  I'm glad that RandomBoy provided instructions for installing SeaMonkey, since I can't help you with that as I've never used it.

Title: Re: Opera Browser Install
Post by: Artim on October 16, 2017, 05:36:13 PM
@Vera ,

How is that Opera browser?  I played with it for a bit a couple of years ago and it's pretty fast.  It had a built-in Thunderbird-like email client too.  Does it still have that?  I found it very much like Seamonkey!  For some folks it's a tad faster too.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Opera Browser Install
Post by: Vera on October 21, 2017, 08:58:14 AM
@RandomBoy , thanks, Opera is working out great for me. I've used it for creating and ordering a photo book online (which I think should be a fairly good test of a browser), and it handled everything just fine. Although, I should probably wait to see when the finished item arrives next week to be certain it worked as expected! To answer your other question, I'm not sure about whether it has a built-in mail client analogous to Thunderbird for FireFox. Opera does however come with a free VPN ( http://www.opera.com/computer/features/free-vpn (http://www.opera.com/computer/features/free-vpn) ).

I'm glad Seamonkey is working out well for you. Besides being open-source, what features appeal to you in Seamonkey?

I'm really enjoying how Linux Lite is working out for me. I'm glad you mentioned it to me back on Diaspora, it's really allowed me to be productive.
Title: Re: Opera Browser Install
Post by: Artim on October 21, 2017, 08:37:32 PM
@RandomBoy , thanks, Opera is working out great for me. I've used it for creating and ordering a photo book online (which I think should be a fairly good test of a browser), and it handled everything just fine. Although, I should probably wait to see when the finished item arrives next week to be certain it worked as expected! To answer your other question, I'm not sure about whether it has a built-in mail client analogous to Thunderbird for FireFox. Opera does however come with a free VPN ( http://www.opera.com/computer/features/free-vpn (http://www.opera.com/computer/features/free-vpn) ).

I'm glad Seamonkey is working out well for you. Besides being open-source, what features appeal to you in Seamonkey?

I'm really enjoying how Linux Lite is working out for me. I'm glad you mentioned it to me back on Diaspora, it's really allowed me to be productive.

The appeal of Seamonkey for me is it's speed and simplicity on this ancient relic of a hand-me-down computer.  It's actually a kinda-sorta resurrection of the venerable Netscape Internet Suite (Navigator, Composer, etc).  It does everything both Firefox and Thunderbird do, but with thousands fewer lines of code.
Title: Re: Opera Browser Install
Post by: Powercat80 on November 15, 2017, 05:27:45 PM
Random B -  I have downloaded the SeaMonky app into downloads from Firefox.  Is there a simple executable to install it on LL?  I'm not a coder so I'd like not to use the Terminal.  Any help??
Title: Re: Opera Browser Install
Post by: rokytnji on November 15, 2017, 05:47:51 PM
Random B -  I have downloaded the SeaMonky app into downloads from Firefox.  Is there a simple executable to install it on LL?  I'm not a coder so I'd like not to use the Terminal.  Any help??

Jerry and others can comment on whether Ubuntuzilla ppa is safe to enable on LL.  Because I don't really know. I just run seamoinkey out of /opt and update it through the browser updater.
Something I guess you refer to as " a coder ".

https://www.linuxbabe.com/ubuntu/how-to-install-seamonkey-on-ubuntu-16-04

You need to running LL3.6 and above for the above link to apply. The tar.bz2 you downloaded has no executable. It has a launcher and is a source folder. You might as well delete it. Since installing source files requires command line and " coder skills " with installed build tools at hand for source file installation methods.

Source files are not .exe files. Like in Windows. Downloading files in Linux takes skill you may need to learn as time goes by. Best to use synaptic. foir now.

Do not follow the instructions in my link till others say it is OK. Like I said. I am a different than normal linux user.

Title: Re: Opera Browser Install
Post by: Artim on November 16, 2017, 05:37:42 AM
The instructions in Rokytngi's post work, and Seamonkey is safe, easy, and fast. 
Title: Re: Opera Browser Install
Post by: bitsnpcs on November 16, 2017, 02:37:19 PM
I installed Opera by downloading the .deb file from the Opera website, then double clicking on it and clicking install, forward, and close buttons in the install interface.
Just had update and this is working fine through Menu>Favorites>Install Updates