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[SOLVED]Installing Updates
« on: November 01, 2014, 04:20:30 PM »
 

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After successfully installing LL last night, I installed updates. Upon wakening and booting up, I lost my Wi-Fi, of course. It's a Linux thing. I knew I shouldn't have updated because that usually causes something to break. :)

My question is this, after reinstalling LL because I couldn't get the Wi-Fi to work after trying many things I found online, what updates should I do to keep from breaking this Broadcom Wi-Fi? Should I even update LL at all? I can't connect this laptop to Ethernet, so a wired connection is out of the question.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it... is that the best thing to do here, or is there a way to update only the necessary things without killing my Wi-Fi? I appreciate any feedback you guys have here.

Thanks!
Last Edit: November 03, 2014, 06:52:24 PM by Kalifornia
 


Re: Installing Updates
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2014, 05:09:23 PM »
 

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Before any directions can be given (it may be a simple fix) can you type in a terminal:

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lshw -c network
and post the entire output here.
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Re: Installing Updates
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2014, 05:20:50 PM »
 

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Sure thing.

Copied ouput:

*-network:0             
       description: Network controller
       product: BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller
       vendor: Broadcom Corporation
       physical id: 3
       bus info: pci@0000:02:03.0
       version: 02
       width: 32 bits
       clock: 33MHz
       capabilities: bus_master
       configuration: driver=b43-pci-bridge latency=64
       resources: irq:19 memory:dfdfe000-dfdfffff
  *-network:1
       description: Ethernet interface
       product: 82562ET/EZ/GT/GZ - PRO/100 VE (LOM) Ethernet Controller Mobile
       vendor: Intel Corporation
       physical id: 8
       bus info: pci@0000:02:08.0
       logical name: eth0
       version: 03
       serial: 00:12:3f:f7:43:ed
       size: 10Mbit/s
       capacity: 100Mbit/s
       width: 32 bits
       clock: 33MHz
       capabilities: pm bus_master cap_list ethernet physical tp mii 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd autonegotiation
       configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=e100 driverversion=3.5.24-k2-NAPI duplex=half latency=64 link=no maxlatency=56 mingnt=8 multicast=yes port=MII speed=10Mbit/s
       resources: irq:20 memory:dfdfd000-dfdfdfff ioport:df40(size=64)
  *-network
       description: Wireless interface
       physical id: 2
       logical name: wlan0
       serial: 00:14:a4:33:95:a1
       capabilities: ethernet physical wireless
       configuration: broadcast=yes driver=b43 driverversion=3.13.0-24-generic firmware=666.2 ip=192.168.1.6 link=yes multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11bg
 

Re: Installing Updates
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2014, 05:30:52 PM »
 

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You will need to be connected online to do this.
Run these commands (one at a time, and wait until they complete it may take a considerable amount of time each time)
Last command being rebooting... which will hopefully have your wireless working nicely. You should be able to run updates from that point without issue.

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sudo apt-get remove bcmwl-kernel-source

sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer b43-fwcutter

sudo reboot

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Re: Installing Updates
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2014, 05:34:00 PM »
 

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Well, my wireless is working at the moment. In the first post, I was saying I had to reinstall LL to get it to work again. If I run those commands now, what good will it do? I sure don't want to update or do anything to LL if it's working :D Should I install updates then do those commands or what do you think?
Last Edit: November 01, 2014, 05:38:26 PM by Kalifornia
 

Re: Installing Updates
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2014, 05:40:40 PM »
 

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Might take a little debugging of sorts sadly, when you run and update we need the output of the command
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lshw -c network
You have to understand i do not own all the hardware on earth to test this myself... you can also read over this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#b43%20-%20Internet%20access

notably the section with
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sudo modprobe -r b43 ssb
sudo modprobe b43

Basicly... looks like you DO have the drivers, but they may be somehow disabled.

How comfortable are you with kernel modules?
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Re: Installing Updates
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2014, 05:44:03 PM »
 

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How comfortable are you with kernel modules?

About as uncomfortable as peeing next to someone who keeps looking at me.
 

Re: Installing Updates
« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2014, 05:51:10 PM »
 

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Read the previous link in my last post, as well as the directions posted.

Now with that said, lets go a little deeper.. There is a section on this site called "Switching between drivers"

http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43

Read as much of it as you can, but basicly... after an update you need to run :

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lshw -c network
and look for the section that looks like this:

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configuration: broadcast=yes driver=b43 driverversion=3.13.0-24-generic firmware=666.2 ip=192.168.1.6 link=yes multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11bg
if you dont see driver=b43 try running

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sudo modprobe b43
And waiting for the wireless to kick in, if this doesnt work try to post the entire contents of the lshw command here. (I'm sorry this is so hard with no networking when it goes wrong)

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Re: Installing Updates
« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2014, 05:54:30 PM »
 

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No problem at all; I appreciate the help. Before I do any of this, can you tell me the harm in not installing updates? I know the harm in doing so on Windows but not Linux. I'm fairly new to it all really, as I only dabbled in Ubuntu 8.04 years back and recently Elementary Luna. I guess if the wireless fails to load, I can still access the LL Forum on my phone.
 

Re: Installing Updates
« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2014, 05:57:32 PM »
 

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The same logic applies to linux as with windows, security fixes and features are introduced in nearly all types of updates. It's by far ideal to always update. And as with windows, time to time with some hardware issues can arise. With any type of machine connected online.. I'd strongly suggest always updating.
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Re: Installing Updates
« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2014, 06:47:25 PM »
 

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Okay, so I had to dual boot back into XP to relay this info. I lost Wi-Fi after installing updates. I tried the sudo apt-get remove bcmwl-kernel-source, but it said I didn't have it to remove. I couldn't sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer b43-fwcutter because, well, I have no Internet to install anything from online.

I also tried the two sudo modprobe codes you gave me, but they did nothing. I read some of those Web pages but didn't know what I could do to fix anything. I also tried to do the Install Drivers thing, but every time I picked wireless and apply it, it would go back to Do not use this device. The configuration part this time looks really different than the original one I posted earlier. So, I copied the terminal code to LO and saved it to an external drive, uploaded it on Windows and here it is for anyone to help me :)

*-network:0 UNCLAIMED   
       description: Network controller
       product: BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller
       vendor: Broadcom Corporation
       physical id: 3
       bus info: pci@0000:02:03.0
       version: 02
       width: 32 bits
       clock: 33MHz
       configuration: latency=64
       resources: memory:dfdfe000-dfdfffff
  *-network:1
       description: Ethernet interface
       product: 82562ET/EZ/GT/GZ - PRO/100 VE (LOM) Ethernet Controller Mobile
       vendor: Intel Corporation
       physical id: 8
       bus info: pci@0000:02:08.0
       logical name: eth0
       version: 03
       serial: 00:12:3f:f7:43:ed
       size: 10Mbit/s
       capacity: 100Mbit/s
       width: 32 bits
       clock: 33MHz
       capabilities: pm bus_master cap_list ethernet physical tp mii 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd autonegotiation
       configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=e100 driverversion=3.5.24-k2-NAPI duplex=half latency=64 link=no maxlatency=56 mingnt=8 multicast=yes port=MII speed=10Mbit/s
       resources: irq:20 memory:dfdfd000-dfdfdfff ioport:df40(size=64)
Last Edit: November 01, 2014, 06:51:16 PM by Kalifornia
 

Re: Installing Updates
« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2014, 07:06:07 PM »
 

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umm, you ran updates BEFORE

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sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer b43-fwcutter

?
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Re: Installing Updates
« Reply #12 on: November 01, 2014, 07:15:52 PM »
 

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umm, you ran updates BEFORE

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sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer b43-fwcutter

?
E: Unable to locate package firmware-b43-installer

That would be a big dumb yes, sir. I knew I was messing up something. I can always reinstall LL and try again.

After reinstalling, it says E: Unable to locate package firmware-b43-installer. I went into synaptic and it says I already have the fwcutter installed. I also chose a closer server and updated the repositories and when I try the b43 installer code, it says:

E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?

 So not sure what I should do as far as updating is concerned. Wireless works without updating.. sounds good to me.
Last Edit: November 01, 2014, 09:06:10 PM by Kalifornia
 

Re: Installing Updates
« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2014, 11:10:36 PM »
 

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That error occurs when you have another program or process running thats using apt. Do so with synaptic closed, or any other update/package installer closed.
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Re: Installing Updates
« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2014, 11:35:02 AM »
 

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Okay, so I ran the remove kernal thing and cutter install before doing updates. After rebooting, I had no Wi-Fi again. I tried the modprobe stuff too, but all it did was create a new line in the Terminal. Nothing happened. Here's the network output:

*-network:0 UNCLAIMED   
       description: Network controller
       product: BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller
       vendor: Broadcom Corporation
       physical id: 3
       bus info: pci@0000:02:03.0
       version: 02
       width: 32 bits
       clock: 33MHz
       configuration: latency=64
       resources: memory:dfdfe000-dfdfffff
  *-network:1
       description: Ethernet interface
       product: 82562ET/EZ/GT/GZ - PRO/100 VE (LOM) Ethernet Controller Mobile
       vendor: Intel Corporation
       physical id: 8
       bus info: pci@0000:02:08.0
       logical name: eth0
       version: 03
       serial: 00:12:3f:f7:43:ed
       size: 10Mbit/s
       capacity: 100Mbit/s
       width: 32 bits
       clock: 33MHz
       capabilities: pm bus_master cap_list ethernet physical tp mii 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd autonegotiation
       configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=e100 driverversion=3.5.24-k2-NAPI duplex=half latency=64 link=no maxlatency=56 mingnt=8 multicast=yes port=MII speed=10Mbit/s
       resources: irq:20 memory:dfdfd000-dfdfdfff ioport:df40(size=64)
Last Edit: November 02, 2014, 12:55:15 PM by Kalifornia
 


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