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Installing LL 3.2
« on: February 02, 2017, 10:39:36 AM »
 

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Hello,
I am trying to install LL3.2 on a computer, the live dvd spins up and I see the menu, as it moves on from this, the screen goes black and the monitor power light turns off, as if the monitor cable has been removed.
I know the cable works as its usually used on another computer, and I know the cable connection and graphics work as I edited the bios and it is graphical interface, with various konky type aspects running.
I hear the Linux Lite start up music just cannot see on the screen, so cannot progress any further at this stage.
The bios is Asus version 2.17.1246, the motherboard is Asus H110M-R.  The graphics are Intel integrated 510HD.

The bios settings I altered were -
1/ change to boot from dvd. 
2/ chose other OS, instead of windows uefi default. (the computer does not have windows installed, its for Linux)
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Re: Installing LL 3.2
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2017, 10:44:34 AM »
 

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Re: Installing LL 3.2
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2017, 10:47:27 AM »
 

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it is a Zoostorm Origin

 

Re: Installing LL 3.2
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2017, 11:30:39 AM »
 

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The answer seems to be due to your Skylake CPU.  Online and in this forum, people mention using the "nomodeset" setting in GRUB to overcome that.  I'm not sure how to do that in LL 3.2, but here's how it's being approached in Ubuntu.

http://askubuntu.com/questions/162075/my-computer-boots-to-a-black-screen-what-options-do-i-have-to-fix-it
http://askubuntu.com/questions/470492/ubuntu-14-04-black-screen-when-installing

and see this post from our forum:
https://www.linuxliteos.com/forums/on-topic/will-this-work-well-with-linux-lite-(new-computer-build)/msg27352/#msg27352
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Re: Installing LL 3.2
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2017, 03:06:46 PM »
 

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Hello,
there doesn't seem to be any option for nomodeset, I have the eufi disabled, fast boot disabled, (tried with enabled), have stack disabled, have enabled legacy mode and csm, it's still the same.

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« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2017, 04:48:16 PM »
 

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Like the links showed, there isn't a nomodeset setting, but an edit you have to make in GRUB, if you can get to it using the Live ISO.  As you boot to your Live DVD, you might need to hold the right shift key to get to the Advanced options.  Then you hit the e key to edit the GRUB file of the kernel. 

Scroll down to the line marked "linux", and replace the words "quiet splash" with nomodeset.  One link also mentions adding nolapic.
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Re: Installing LL 3.2
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2017, 05:04:57 PM »
 

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It didn't go to advanced mode when holding the right shift key.
It boots to the LL menu then same as previously monitor powers off/ black screen.
 

Re: Installing LL 3.2
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2017, 05:22:36 PM »
 

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When you get to the LL menu, what happens if you "Press [Tab] to edit options"?
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Re: Installing LL 3.2
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2017, 06:06:21 PM »
 

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Hello,

I haven't used the tab on the LL menu, I leave it to count down on the default first option, like I usually do before installing LL.

At the moment I decided to download the Ubuntu 16.04.1 its says AMD64, as I see reviews on the pc say it loads without any issues.
Which I can confirm it does,  it loads to the desktop no issues at all.

Asks if I want to try or install Ubuntu, I selected try and desktop has loaded, I then used firefox and came to the forum. I am writing this using the Ubuntu Live dvd, on the new pc.
It looks nice enough (nicer than windows), but it is not Linux Lite  :'( which we all know is the nicest :)

Is this any help as to what may be the problem ?

Or is there anything I can do from this loaded Ubuntu live that would help the Linux Lite dvd to load ?

If not is it likely Ubuntu will install, and is it possible to then convert that Ubuntu install somehow to LL ?

Edit: before trying Ubuntu, I also tried to see if I could the LL 32bit to load as a live dvd, in case the 64bit was on a faulty burn or dvd media, as I had used the 32bit to install to the 3ghz computer recently, the 32bit stops at the same time inthe same way as the 64bit.
 
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Re: Installing LL 3.2
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2017, 07:14:39 PM »
 

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I'm pretty sure this is the way to set nomodeset..

From the Grub Screen
Press "e" for command prompt
- Arrow down to the linux line (mine was 2nd from bottom)
- Then arrow right to the quiet splash - backspace to remove and add nomodeset
F10 or ctrl x to save...

Looks like a common issue with the Baytrails too, although maybe the video card(nvida??)...

Oh if this is a 64-bit UEFI system, Jerry does have a test EUFI installer if you want to give it a go.. here


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Re: Installing LL 3.2
« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2017, 08:18:50 PM »
 

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firenice03,

I've already mentioned that.  The challenge is getting to the GRUB screen using the Live DVD.
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Re: Installing LL 3.2
« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2017, 08:53:26 PM »
 

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firenice03,

I've already mentioned that.  The challenge is getting to the GRUB screen using the Live DVD.

Sorry must of scrolled right past that :( ..

I did test a 3.2 64-bit USB I had at hand and TAB at Welcome to Linux Lite screen will add a string of code along the bottom.. As listed

Code: [Select]
> /casper/vmlinuz file=/cdrom/preseed/custom.seed boot=casper initrd=/casper/initrd.gz quiet splash --
Perhaps replacing quiet splash here with nomodeset?? As suggested by Torreydale as well :)
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Re: Installing LL 3.2
« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2017, 04:03:13 AM »
 

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Thank you torreydale and firenice03, I will try tab first, and also look at the installer thread this afternoon when I get back from class.
 

Re: Installing LL 3.2
« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2017, 10:11:53 AM »
 

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Couple of suggestions,

If you have another Linux computer available, and if you can boot a live USB from the one you are trying to install to: burn the ISO to a USB on your other Linux computer first and edit its grub there; then attempt the install from USB on the other. Just about any computer can show a grub boot menu terminal so consider that option when you do your edit. Until the HDD is accessed, changes to a live DVD only live in RAM, but you can write and save changes to a USB, even add or preseed driver packages, thus a big advantage for complicated installs.

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Re: Installing LL 3.2
« Reply #14 on: February 03, 2017, 11:04:28 AM »
 

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On the live cd I have got to the prompt removed quiet splash and added nomodeset nolapic, and pressed ctrl x to save, nothing has happened the cursor remains at the last character, and arrows and tabs dont put it back to the menu ?

Trinidad, so if the nomodeset works on the live cd it still wouldn't install from the live cd, I would need to put the iso on the usb and edit it first before installing ?
Or is this for future to make it available for editing on other installs ?
I do have other Linux computers, one is LL 2.n, and one is LL 3.2, both are 32bit.

Edit -
I have installed Ubuntu on this computer, I can use LL on the others.
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