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Installing 4.0 (On Wife's Computer)
« on: May 16, 2018, 04:29:29 PM »
 

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I will be installing LL 4.0 as soon as it comes out on my computer, and then on my wife's. I anticipate no trouble with my old Gateway GT5656, I already have 3.8 on it with Windows 7, no problems. I want to make sure I don't mess her laptop up. It's a Dell Inspiron N7010. I'm almost positive it uses BIOS rather than UEFI; I can find nothing about UEFI anywhere in support documentation. So, it should go in as smoothly as mine did. One difference with hers is that the install disc is from Dell. (I had to reinstall Windows 7 awhile back, called Dell as I had no disc, and they airmailed it to me in 2 days!). It has a Dell boot screen, versus the Windows 7 one, with those wavy viney things (what was that anyway?).

Should I be on the lookout for anything unusual, since it installed from a Dell disc? I sure don't want to mess up her laptop. I've been talking up Linux for a few years now, and if I blow this, I'll never live it down.

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Re: Installing 4.0 (On Wife's Computer)
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2018, 04:47:09 PM »
 

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"I've been talking up Linux for a few years now, and if I blow this, I'll never live it down."

I hear ya brother. Mine blames everything that goes wrong with her Windows 10 computer on me. She hates the KIS and the Gibson HDD protection I put on it and constantly tells me how it worked perfectly when she bought it, and when I show her what's going on with it she just gets mad and gets up and leaves her desk. Get all your specs together for her LT and post them here first. The people here can figure out if you're going to be okay.

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Re: Installing 4.0 (On Wife's Computer)
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2018, 05:07:53 PM »
 

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I can find nothing about UEFI anywhere in support documentation.

Try YouTube - there are lots of how-to instructions from users in any language.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=UEFI


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https://www.linuxliteos.com/forums/introductions/uefi-and-linux-lite/msg40204/#msg40204



Last Edit: May 16, 2018, 06:55:38 PM by NN
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Re: Installing 4.0 (On Wife's Computer)
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2018, 08:11:45 PM »
 

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[quote author=trinidad link=topic=5439.msg41027#msg41027 date=1526503629
 when I show her what's going on with it she just gets mad and gets up and leaves her desk.

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That's rough. Mine isn't that bad, but she does get wicked impatient. Like I said recently in another post, they just want the damn thing to work. Explanations don't impress them, especially if intended to show off one's geekiness (or pseudo-geekiness, in my case).

Off the top of my head, she has an i5 with 6GB ram, and 1TB HDD. It's a very nice Dell Inspiron N7010. 64 bit Windows 7. I've replaced the HDD, put two batteries in and a new keyboard. Works like new, although it's about 7 years old. I have a lot of experience with dual-booting, but as I said this is for hers, not mine. Heck, I almost welcome welcome when mine goes bad, it gives me something to do. But with hers, I'm starting to get nervous just thinking about it...
 

Re: Installing 4.0 (On Wife's Computer)
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2018, 10:23:32 PM »
 

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this is for hers, not mine

Has your wife already begun her acquaintance with Linux? Did she fell in love with it at first sight? What are her impressions of LL? :)


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Why 'Installing 4.0 (On Wife's Computer)'? This release is beta so far. Why not wait for the stable one?
Last Edit: May 16, 2018, 10:58:22 PM by NN
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Re: Installing 4.0 (On Wife's Computer)
« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2018, 06:46:55 AM »
 

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Why not try a live CD set up as a demo that change is no change.
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Re: Installing 4.0 (On Wife's Computer)
« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2018, 07:34:01 AM »
 

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Why not try a live CD set up as a demo that change is no change.

Bad idea, in my opinion. This way is good only for stable releases. I can explain why.

I have the live-USB with LL 4.0 beta. The start-up time is too, too long - about 5 minutes or even more. And booting from the live-USB is lagging. And now imagine that a person who wants to get acquainted with Linux for the first time uses an unstable (!) version, and moreover - from the live-USB which works slower than the installed one. I'm afraid this newcomer to Linux may say goodbye to LL forever, and this is not what I would like. LL is the best choice in the line of similar distros. I know that, as I have tried many and chosen only LL.

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Re: Installing 4.0 (On Wife's Computer)
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Good point. Therefore try a live CD from version 3.8.  The aim is to a) highlight any potential setup problems with the laptop ( before demonstrating :) ) and them demonstarte that there is little to fear from the change.  Just a thought.
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Re: Installing 4.0 (On Wife's Computer)
« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2018, 09:48:44 AM »
 

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Therefore try a live CD from version 3.8.

Why not? But new is better. So, why not give a chance to the new release and wait a little until the stable version?

Every new LL release becomes better and better in many ways. That's what I like most of all in LL. As for other Linux XFCE 'twins', they lack freshness, they seem to remain as if frozen - only kernels are changed and apps are updated - and that is all about them. But with LL it is different - new useful features are added with every new release, and it is surprising and fantastic to me. And I understand that the LL Team cares for the users and people, and I am very grateful for this. And this is one more thing why I love LL so much.

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I know it. :)
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Re: Installing 4.0 (On Wife's Computer)
« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2018, 04:50:42 PM »
 

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The slow boot could be because of the USB Key speed. I use a minimum of 100 read and write personnaly.
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Re: Installing 4.0 (On Wife's Computer)
« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2018, 05:20:03 PM »
 

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The slow boot could be because of the USB Key speed. I use a minimum of 100 read and write personnaly.

I used one and the same USB for LL 3.6 and LL 3.8, and it was OK. But LL 4.0 on the same USB is rather a 'drag', so I just can't test LL beta. Waiting for LL 4.0 stable. :)
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Re: Installing 4.0 (On Wife's Computer)
« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2018, 07:33:24 PM »
 

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Oh, sorry about that.
Boot time for me a less important than ressource usage. When a computer boots I'm usually multitasking and not waiting for it. ;)
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Re: Installing 4.0 (On Wife's Computer)
« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2018, 07:48:49 AM »
 

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Oh, sorry about that.
Boot time for me a less important thatn ressource usage. When a computer boots I'm usually multitasking and not waiting for it. ;)

Lucky you are! I never saw the LL desktop using LL beta 4.0 written with the mintstick or even Etcher on different USB-sticks, I just once heard the greeting login sound and that was all, except the dark screen. I managed to log on only once, by chance, with the live-USB written with the usb-creator-gtk app. Great tool, then! But it took me 5 or even more minutes to log on. Something's wrong with the live-USB of LL beta 4.0.  :(
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Re: Installing 4.0 (On Wife's Computer)
« Reply #13 on: May 23, 2018, 04:19:17 PM »
 

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Just an idea but, could it be that you have mutiple video cards and/or video outputs on your computer?
I had that once on a PC, I was getting a black screen after post because I was in OutPut 2 and the video driver had output to 1 when the OS loaded.
Also, you could try to boot while holding the SHIFT key and choose "Start Linux Lite in Safe mode"

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Re: Installing 4.0 (On Wife's Computer)
« Reply #14 on: May 23, 2018, 06:30:01 PM »
 

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Just an idea but, could it be that you have mutiple video cards and/or video outputs on your computer?

It's unlikely, as my netbook is too old (and has only 1 Gb of RAM) to "have multiple video cards and/or video outputs'. The previous LL releases caused no problems at all and everything worked alright.

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Also, you could try to boot while holding the SHIFT key and choose "Start Linux Lite in Safe mode"

The 'safe mode' is already included to the grub menu in LL 4.0 beta, so there's no need to press anything. No, I shan't do anything special till the stable LL release comes out. I am a very patient person.  :D

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