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Install Updates - Terminal
« on: April 01, 2014, 11:43:54 PM »
 

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 :-\ After reading post about users losing their menu items, Linux Lite installed modified desktop, and warnings from Valtam about resetting menu I wonder about the Install Updates - Terminal. Some of the updates I can see are from Jerry Bezencon (Valtam) but some but some are from Ubuntu and some I do not reconize. Are all updates offered by this program from or screened by the Linux Lite Development Team; therefore, safe to do?

I no longer even ask Synaptic to check for update dues to be concerned about messing up Linux Lite.


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Re: Install Updates - Terminal
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2014, 01:25:47 AM »
 

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All updates come from either myself or Ubuntu, or from a ppa like for Gimp for example.
Can we screen every update package? I doubt 95% of distros have even the manpower to do that, let alone the time.
 

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« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2014, 03:32:23 AM »
 

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Hello!

My problems have all been with in-place upgrades on the six-month major releases - all the more reason to run LTS versions ;)

Valtam, you're right on target with that one. There are many thousands of different programs in the repositories, developed by thousands of different programmers. No one group could ever check them all every time they're updated. More or less, that responsibility is left to the program's developer.

Actually, in the Ubuntu repositories, the opposite problem is true - the latest versions there are often several versions behind the current ones. VLC media player is a good example of what I'm talking about. The down side to that is that the programs that are broken take that much longer to get fixes down the pipeline. Sometimes current versions can be downloaded elsewhere as a .deb, but more often than not, if you want everything to be bleeding-edge, you must compile them yourself from source or fool with tarballs (.tar files).

Lauchpad.net is a good place to find out about the latest goings-on with packages you're interested in - especially bugs, and their progress towards getting them fixed. Synaptic lets you tweak what kind of stuff is updated and how often, or not at all. Perhaps one day, Synaptic might be able to accommodate setting up an update strategy for each individual file, but if you have a lot of files, the necessary database could get big (and slow).

For the REALLY paranoid, one can always back up before updating...

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Re: Install Updates - Terminal
« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2014, 03:45:08 AM »
 

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All updates come from either myself or Ubuntu, or from a ppa like for Gimp for example.
Can we screen every update package? I doubt 95% of distros have even the manpower to do that, let alone the time.

Thanks. Am I correct in just using Install Update - Terminal for the safest way to update?


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Re: Install Updates - Terminal
« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2014, 07:59:55 PM »
 

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Hello!

I've installed the full-blown Ubuntu Software Center - which installs its own updater - and after it updated, ended up with issues that ended up requiring a reinstall.

From what I've seen, Valtam's update script, which is called from the main menu, is the most bulletproof way to update because it not only safely updates the OS, but also updates the user manual at the same time.

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Re: Install Updates - Terminal
« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2014, 09:06:49 AM »
 

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I personally prefer to update through the command line (Terminal).  I've had no issues with this process across multiple debian/ubuntu based distros.

Simple command: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
 

 

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