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Title: Cannot make a successful bootable LL USB
Post by: joejohnston3 on November 22, 2018, 12:05:15 PM
Hello All,


For some reason, I cannot get a bootable USB of the Linux Lite ISO. I have tried every commonly known GUI versions of USB creators, i.e. Yumi, Unetbootin, etc. and even the DD terminal command and still cannot get it to boot in order to use it as Live version or to install. I can easily use the same ISO for burning a CD but not a USB and am hoping someone here has had a similar issue and found a fix. CD is just way to slow so I want to get a USB version if at all possible. I would appreciate any assistance you can provide and Happy Thanksgiving to all!!
Title: Re: Cannot make a successful bootable LL USB
Post by: Jerry on November 22, 2018, 12:11:31 PM
Hello Joe. Use Etcher as recommended on the Download page.

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Title: Re: Cannot make a successful bootable LL USB
Post by: joejohnston3 on November 22, 2018, 12:21:23 PM
Hello Jerry, and thank you for the reply. I have tried Etcher as well with no success as I know you recommended it on the Wiki. That is why I am stumped and not sure what to do next.
Title: Re: Cannot make a successful bootable LL USB
Post by: Jerry on November 22, 2018, 12:46:21 PM
You've used a multitude of software, so logically it has to be a hardware issue. Try different USB ports.

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Title: Re: Cannot make a successful bootable LL USB
Post by: joejohnston3 on November 22, 2018, 12:54:11 PM
Thank you, Jerry! I will try another USB port as well as flash drive and use Etcher. I will let you know.
Title: Re: Cannot make a successful bootable LL USB
Post by: joejohnston3 on November 22, 2018, 01:59:22 PM
Well, here is my update;


I have tried with my Windows machine and numerous USB creators, along with Etcher. I have switched ports and flash drives and I cannot get it to be a bootable USB. The USB burns successfully but will not boot like a normal Linux distro. It is disappointing as I would love to get this working but I have tried with Linux and Windows and cannot get it to burn correctly. I am not sure there is anything more to do. Is there a chance the Sourceforge ISO is not compatible as a bootable ISO?
Title: Re: Cannot make a successful bootable LL USB
Post by: Jerry on November 22, 2018, 03:17:35 PM
Then you'll need to go into your BIOS and make sure that any USB devices are set to boot first.

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Title: Re: Cannot make a successful bootable LL USB
Post by: justme2 on November 22, 2018, 03:18:04 PM
@joejohnston3  Does your PC support USB boot? Some older machines need the aid of 'Plop', which I have always given up on for speed reasons.
Title: Re: Cannot make a successful bootable LL USB
Post by: joejohnston3 on November 22, 2018, 03:34:06 PM
Yes, the strange part is that LL is one of the only ISO's that does not make a bootable USB, along with SparkyLinux. I have gotten Linux Mint and Ubuntu, Manjaro, etc. to all work but not LL. :(


I am hoping to find a solution but starting to get concerned there may not be a solution. Apparently it works for others, just not my options.
Title: Re: Cannot make a successful bootable LL USB
Post by: Moltke on November 22, 2018, 03:49:29 PM
 Hi @joejohnston3  Are you sure the LL ISO is not corrupted? There's a couple of things you might try to make sure it isn't the case, 1, install virtualbox and try booting LL in a VM. And 2, try booting your USB stick containing LL in another pc. If one of those attemps is succesfull then it means your LL iso isn't corrupted, otherwise you should download a new one.

Hope this helps! :)
Title: Re: Cannot make a successful bootable LL USB
Post by: firenice03 on November 22, 2018, 03:53:05 PM
Make sure SecureBoot is off...
And more than likely, youll need to turn off UEFI, or enable legacy mode.. This is in your BIOS.


If a dual boot with Win10, may want to make sure fastboot is also off, this is in Windows..
Title: Re: Cannot make a successful bootable LL USB
Post by: joejohnston3 on November 22, 2018, 05:26:18 PM
I have downloaded the ISO a couple times and cannot boot to it with either my Windows machine or my iMac. I will try it again with the Windows machine to make sure.
Title: Re: Cannot make a successful bootable LL USB
Post by: joejohnston3 on November 22, 2018, 05:57:55 PM
Well, one quick update;

Apparently it is my iMac as the Windows laptop boots to it fine. :(

I am just not sure why other distros burn and boot on the iMac but not Linux Lite.
Title: Re: Cannot make a successful bootable LL USB
Post by: joejohnston3 on November 22, 2018, 10:53:13 PM
Hi All,

I went ahead and purchased Mac Linux USB Loader for $5 and the only thing it was able to do was give me an EFI Boot icon but will not boot the ISO. When I was creating the USB it stated that the LL.iso was not an EFI enabled kernel/iso so I am guessing that is why it is not working on my iMac. I am not really sure there is anything more that can be done at this point but I wanted to give an update and appreciate all the input.
Title: Re: Cannot make a successful bootable LL USB
Post by: firenice03 on November 22, 2018, 10:56:42 PM
Have you checked the bios, you can turn off uefi/efi. This is usually done by enabling legacy mode.

If your unsure the is a beta LL UEFI build that you can download and install to usb. The same way.


**Update resized fonts on above
Title: Re: Cannot make a successful bootable LL USB
Post by: Jerry on November 23, 2018, 12:51:16 AM
UEFI build here - http://repo.linuxliteos.com/uefitests/4.2/
Title: Re: Cannot make a successful bootable LL USB
Post by: zygmunto on November 23, 2018, 05:28:29 AM
@firenice03 It's not always possible to change to legacy mode because there is no such option in bios. Like in my case. I just bought Acer Spin , to make it LL machine, but it simply ends on WTF? Only uefi bootable. No legacy mode. Maybe it's possible, but not like turn on/off.
Title: Re: Cannot make a successful bootable LL USB
Post by: TheDead on November 23, 2018, 07:30:00 AM
Hi,

Pretty sure iMacs are UEFI only since Apple likes to "push" technology on users ;) .
I dont have an iMac handy but I'm not even sure they have BIOSes...

Using the UEFI beta build from Jerry will get you better results.

Cheers!
Title: Re: Cannot make a successful bootable LL USB
Post by: firenice03 on November 23, 2018, 09:46:52 AM
@firenice03 It's not always possible to change to legacy mode because there is no such option in bios. Like in my case. I just bought Acer Spin , to make it LL machine, but it simply ends on WTF? Only uefi bootable. No legacy mode. Maybe it's possible, but not like turn on/off.

Rest of my posts font size was tiny, to which I suggested the beta uefi build for this case...
Which should work. Although I haven't installed linux on a mac..
Title: Re: Cannot make a successful bootable LL USB
Post by: joejohnston3 on November 23, 2018, 10:50:58 AM
Thank you all for the input!!



Okay, the Beta UEFI build was bootable and worked fine!


Now, my next questions. Presently I have been using KDE Neon and want to switch to LL if possible but here is the quandary. When I do a speed test on LL it only gives me 20mbps and when I do the speed test on KDE Neon it gives me 65mbps. Is it possible to get the same drivers from KDE Neon working in LL?


Attached is a picture of the drivers listed from KDE Neon.


(https://i.imgur.com/KZs1DKa.jpg)
Title: Re: Cannot make a successful bootable LL USB
Post by: TheDead on November 24, 2018, 07:42:45 AM
Heya!

Have you run the driver updater yet? You should have a few driver options for the Broadcom B43's from there.

Cheers!
Title: Re: Cannot make a successful bootable LL USB
Post by: joejohnston3 on November 24, 2018, 08:56:41 AM
That is a good idea, thank you!
Title: Re: Cannot make a successful bootable LL USB
Post by: jtdoank on February 14, 2019, 04:01:02 AM
Same as me here, so I download new LL  and burn it using balenaEtcher (now etcher called balena) on my mac.
I want to install on me other device but the USB bootable is no luck.

Then, I download Mint.
I do the same as LL, make it bootable using balenaEtcher with the same USB Stick and same way too.
but Mint can boot

Anyone can help?
Title: Re: Cannot make a successful bootable LL USB
Post by: firenice03 on February 14, 2019, 09:00:18 AM
@jtdoank
May want to start a new thread so your question doesn't get overlooked....

If the Mint works and LL does not... You may want to confirm if the system has UEFI/Secureboot enabled. If they are, the standard LL 64bit installer will fail, you can disable Secureboot and UEFI (enable legacy) within the BIOS.. Then the installer should install without a problem.. Some BIOS these setting can get tricky to find.

Another option is to use the LL UEFI installer (know this is an experimental version) Find here: https://www.linuxliteos.com/forums/linux-lite-software-development/uefi-build-test/msg44253/#msg44253 (https://www.linuxliteos.com/forums/linux-lite-software-development/uefi-build-test/msg44253/#msg44253)


And if you haven't yet.. Here's a link to the manual (Install): https://www.linuxliteos.com/manual/install.html (https://www.linuxliteos.com/manual/install.html)
Title: Re: Cannot make a successful bootable LL USB
Post by: jtdoank on February 14, 2019, 09:40:32 AM
@firenice03
My bad, I am so sorry

let me try check the system, did it has UEFI
I bet on it, its kinda tricky

also let check the manual for the experimental version  :D

anyway
thanks for the prompt respond
Title: Re: Cannot make a successful bootable LL USB
Post by: firenice03 on February 14, 2019, 12:06:35 PM
@firenice03
My bad, I am so sorry

let me try check the system, did it has UEFI
I bet on it, its kinda tricky

also let check the manual for the experimental version  :D

anyway
thanks for the prompt respond

@jtdoank
No worries :) in my previous post I have the link to the experimental LL4.2 version..
Title: Re: Cannot make a successful bootable LL USB
Post by: Nyto on February 16, 2019, 05:58:46 PM

Hello. I hop this helps:

To do this in Windows, the best software, the most efficient smallest simplest fastest portable application to do this, is:
USBWriter-1.3 ( https://sourceforge.net/projects/usbwriter/ )

I recommend Etcher ONLY if you do it from within Linux, download the  "Etcher.Electron.Appimage" or the Balena.AppImage, (whatever is called these days)  https://balena.io/etcher