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Re: Can not install LL4
« Reply #29 on: October 28, 2018, 12:45:37 PM »
 

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Solving my own problem ;)
Wow!... here's a temporary fix for the high CPU usage from the magical world of Google search :
sudo systemctl stop systemd-udevd systemd-udevd-kernel.socket systemd-udevd-control.socket
sudo systemctl start systemd-udevd systemd-udevd-kernel.socket systemd-udevd-control.socket
(For a permanent one you have to change some system files, which I'm trying out later.)
UPDATE : Worked, you have to sudo nano /lib/udev/rules.d/97-hid2hci.rules and add the line ACTION=="add" before the device. In my case making it look like this :
ACTION=="add", ATTR{bInterfaceClass}=="03", ATTR{bInterfaceSubClass}=="01", ATTR{bInterfaceProtocol}=="02", \
  ATTRS{bDeviceClass}=="00", ATTRS{idVendor}=="413c", ATTRS{bmAttributes}=="e0", \
  RUN+="hid2hci --method=dell --devpath=%p", ENV{HID2HCI_SWITCH}="1"


After this, CPU usage comes back to normal (the permanent fix stays after reboot).
From the link, this could be related to bluez (bluetooth) , bluetooth/touchpad or wireless. Could be a kernel problem, etc.https://askubuntu.com/questions/1028883/ubuntu-18-04-systemd-udevd-uses-high-cpu-conflict-with-wifi
Gparted and Taskmanager from menu open fine and fast now.

Cheers!
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Re: Can not install LL4
« Reply #28 on: October 28, 2018, 12:31:27 PM »
 

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Ok,

Some update on this problem. I tried using 4.2beta and got same problem.
I searched around and found that disabling the Windows Hibernation could help (I already disabled Fast Startup).
*BUT* in the process I saw that two systemd-udevd services were using 25-30% and 10-15% CPU constantly.
I forced closed them. Combined with disabling Hibernation I was them able to open GParted and also install LL4.0.

*BUT 2* once installed the two systemd-udevd services STILL use about 50% CPU combined and still cannot open Gparted from menu after install and neither Taskmanager. -- From Termnial I can open them with sudo gpartedbin and xfce4-taskmanager though.
I cant kill systemd-udevd services once installed, them always comeback and use 50% CPU :(
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Re: Can not install LL4
« Reply #27 on: October 27, 2018, 08:16:23 AM »
 

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Glad you had a spare lying around...

But, I must continue this thread. I have tried to install Linux Lite 4.0 on this DELL Vostro 3500 (from USB but I don't think it's related).
I have a problem I never had before. In live boot, I can't install, even in safe mode.
When I click on Install Linux Lite, the waiting wheel spins for about 10-15 seconds and disapears and nothing happens.
Same with GParted, wheel and nothing. I am able to open the other (Gnome?) disk utility though.

Since it had Windows I took the chance and updated to latest BIOS version A12 and worked for me.Also, it's a standard SATA 500G. Maybe the hybrid graphics card setup makes trouble (Intel HD + Geforce 310M).

So I guess... erm... help?
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Re: Can not install LL4
« Reply #26 on: October 26, 2018, 01:26:25 PM »
 

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I've tried that. But nothing.

When i connect the vostro to the powersource and hold the END key the USB flashdrive lite up once, than the fan of the notebook starts and nothing happens.

I've put my SSD in a old Acer notebook and LL is running again  :) much better than Windows ;D
 

Re: Can not install LL4
« Reply #25 on: October 26, 2018, 08:26:23 AM »
 

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@vectra246

Sorry for your troubles :( , I have flashed DELL computers and servers hundreds of times in the past and never had problems with their official updaters...

There is a solution here for a recovery procedure here :https://www.dell.com/community/Laptops-General-Read-Only/Vostro-3500-BIOS-Update-Failed-Recovery-Procedure-Needed/td-p/4437548(using a prepared USB key and holding the END key)
Download for DELL products are at support.dell.com .Enter your service tag (under laptop) in the product number / service tag field and you'll get to the page specific for you computer for downloads/etc.

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Re: Can not install LL4
« Reply #24 on: October 26, 2018, 01:41:15 AM »
 

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I did yesterday a BIOS update and that bricked my Vostro :(

I am trying to restore it but it doesn't seem good for that.
Tried various way i found on Google-O-matic but with no succes.

Until you hear from me different i stop in this topic.

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Re: Can not install LL4
« Reply #23 on: October 25, 2018, 08:53:15 AM »
 

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@kissbaby3 has a good idea.
I didn't unpack the Vostro yet and don't know if it's DVD-less pour I confirm that I have some USB issues sometimes, on different machines.
Side notes : If you still have Windows on there, be sure to have the latest BIOS version and/or reset BIOS setings to default and redo them.
If I don't arrive home too late tonight, I'll do that LL4 install ;).
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Re: Can not install LL4
« Reply #22 on: October 22, 2018, 01:12:53 PM »
 

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i never used a USB stick before.

have you tried to burn the Linux Lite 4.0 ISO onto a DVD disc ?(burn image to disc) ?. and then have it boot as a live DVD and click on the install icon thats shows on the desktop ?, try that .

i know one of the reasons why people use the USB method, its because most PC's dont have a DVD burner, i always make sure  any cumputer i have has a cd/dvd burner .
 

Re: Can not install LL4
« Reply #21 on: October 21, 2018, 04:43:50 PM »
 

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Hi,

If it's dual boot, could be that there's a conflict with how Windows 10 handles the file system... you already mentionned you tried partition the HDD in GParted with MBR/MS-DOS so,is Windows 10 still there? If you could backup Windows 10 and try to wipe the HDD before installing.

Also, stroke of luck... I have fetched a DELL Vostro 3500 laptop from stock.I'll clone the hard drive and try to fresh-install LL4.0 on it.(mine is Windows 7, maybe I'll try a dual boot too).If there's something wrong with the hardware I should have the same problems as you I guest.
** What is your BIOS version? Is the HDD in RAID/AHCI or Compatible/Other mode?

@JerryAny pointers that you wan't us to try?

It's a bit different though, here's the specs :
CPU
 Intel Core i5 460M
RAM
 4.00GB Dual-Channel DDR3
Graphics
 Intel HD Graphics + nVidia GeForce 310M
Storage
 It's either a normal HDD or an SSD (SATA) , can't remember, I'll have to check.
Optical Drives
 DVD-RW (SATA I guess)
Audio
 IDT HD Audio
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Re: Can not install LL4
« Reply #20 on: October 20, 2018, 12:41:16 PM »
 

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Did you try  a new download of the LL 4.0 .iso or just another USB stick? Maybe you should download LL 4.0 again and see how it goes., just so you can confirm and discard it's not a corrupted  .iso downloaded isssue. Have you tried LL 4.0 in virtualbox? This might be helpful too when narrowing the possible causes for your issue to happen.

Hope this helps! :)

Yes, i have done several downloads, different 4.x versions and 3 different USB sticks. No install possible.
I only have a fresh W10 installed, not with virtualbox. The resources are not great for virtual box.

What i dont understand is that the installation usb drive can see my SSD but can't partitioning it.
I think that is also the reason that it won't install.
And this is only with LL4.x
 

Re: Can not install LL4
« Reply #19 on: October 20, 2018, 09:29:02 AM »
 

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Havre you tried downloading LL4.0 again and putting it on anohter usb drive and try if it works?

Yes, with 3 other USB sticks.
Same result.

Today, after your reply i used another USB drive (same result) but i clicked direct from the start (when the icon INSTALL is visible) it start's the install wizzard. From the moment that it should change the partition it stops.

Did you try  a new download of the LL 4.0 .iso or just another USB stick? Maybe you should download LL 4.0 again and see how it goes., just so you can confirm and discard it's not a corrupted  .iso downloaded isssue. Have you tried LL 4.0 in virtualbox? This might be helpful too when narrowing the possible causes for your issue to happen.

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Re: Can not install LL4
« Reply #18 on: October 20, 2018, 03:35:16 AM »
 

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No one who can help ??

 

Re: Can not install LL4
« Reply #17 on: October 16, 2018, 03:15:26 AM »
 

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Just keep trying...

I've installed linux Mint 19 to test. The installation was also no problem.

When i try to install LL4.x i get a short notice about Virtual Box....
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Re: Can not install LL4
« Reply #16 on: October 15, 2018, 09:25:44 AM »
 

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Havre you tried downloading LL4.0 again and putting it on anohter usb drive and try if it works?

Yes, with 3 other USB sticks.
Same result.

Today, after your reply i used another USB drive (same result) but i clicked direct from the start (when the icon INSTALL is visible) it start's the install wizzard. From the moment that it should change the partition it stops.
 

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« Reply #15 on: October 15, 2018, 03:33:15 AM »
 

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Havre you tried downloading LL4.0 again and putting it on anohter usb drive and try if it works?
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