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Yes m654321.
You can install two or more Linux distros to the same computer and usually you just install the
first one (leaving space for the other installation).
And when you install the second distro, it USUALLY recognizes automatically the first one and
modifies the boot loader so that you can choose between the two.

However, for whatever reason it won't go that easy, I would not spend time finding out where the bug
happens to hide this time. You can spend anything from 1 day to 1 year finding it out but please take
my advice, install just one distro if it works - you don't actually need two
« Last Edit: June 15, 2018, 07:18:52 PM by kpanic »
 

 

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Here's a view of running update-grub :)

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dad@TRCD-MiniLL:~$ sudo update-grub
[sudo] password for dad:
Generating grub configuration file ...
Found background: /boot/grub_linux_lite.png
Found background image: /boot/grub_linux_lite.png
Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-128-generic
Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-4.4.0-128-generic
Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-125-generic
Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-4.4.0-125-generic
Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-123-generic
Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-4.4.0-123-generic
Found memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+.elf
Found memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+.bin
Found Linux Lite 3.4 (16.04) on /dev/sda7
done
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Very many thanks guys  8)

After what you both said I'm now more confident to go ahead and do the LL4/LL4 dual-install I mentioned above. 
I'm quite keen to try out some of EB's tweaks for LL4,  that he mentioned in his recent tutorial at https://www.linuxliteos.com/forums/tutorials/setting-up-linux-lite-v4-0-after-install-for-nvidia-card-users/
I can now do this on the experimental install, my main daily driver remaining safe, just in case things go awry.

Cheers
Mike
« Last Edit: June 11, 2018, 03:04:14 PM by m654321 »
64bit OS (32-bit on Samsung netbook) installed in Legacy mode on MBR-formatted SSDs (except pi which uses a micro SDHC card):
2017 - Raspberry pi 3B (4cores) ~ [email protected] - LibreElec, used for upgrading our Samsung TV (excellent for the task)  
2012 - Lenovo G580 2689 (2cores; 4threads] ~ [email protected] - LL3.8/Win8.1 dual-boot (LL working smoothly)
2011 - Samsung NP-N145 Plus (1core; 2threads) ~ Intel Atom [email protected] - LL 3.8 32-bit (64-bit too 'laggy')
2008 - Asus X71Q (2cores) ~ Intel [email protected] - LL4.6/Win8.1 dual-boot, LL works fine with kernel 4.15
2007 - Dell Latitude D630 (2cores) ~ Intel [email protected] - LL4.6, works well with kernel 4.4; 4.15 doesn't work
 

 

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Prepare your partitions in advance and install using the something else option.

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Yes!! Forgot to mention one would want to have disk/partition ready prior to install.  - Thanks TC
I left a 15-20gb partition available for this when I installed the 1st LL to the disk specifically for future testing... :)
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Prepare your partitions in advance and install using the something else option.

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I installed 2 versions of LL on the mini.. Albeit I believe one was a demo version... But Grub does/did see the both.. (This was 3.x series)
My assumption is that it would see both 4.0.. If I recall the differentiating factor would be where it was installed.. i.e. LL4.0 on sda3 and LL4.0 on sda7


I can look later today I believe I still have both installed :)
I can snap a pic of GRUB and any other info...



LL4.8 UEFI 64 bit ASUS E402W - AMD E2 (Quad) 1.5Ghz  - 4GB - AMD Mullins Radeon R2
LL5.8 UEFI 64 bit Test UEFI Kangaroo (Mobile Desktop) - Atom X5-Z8500 1.44Ghz - 2GB - Intel HD Graphics
LL4.8 64 bit HP 6005- AMD Phenom II X2 - 8GB - AMD/ATI RS880 (HD4200)
LL3.8 32 bit Dell Inspiron Mini - Atom N270 1.6Ghz - 1GB - Intel Mobile 945GSE Express  -- Shelved
BACK LL5.8 64 bit Dell Optiplex 160 (Thin) - Atom 230 1.6Ghz - 4GB-SiS 771/671 PCIE VGA - Print Server
Running Linux Lite since LL2.2
 

 

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I was thinking of installing two copies of LL4.0 on the same drive, but am unsure if grub will recognise and list both of these.
The purpose for two installs is as follows:

(1) One LL4.0 install for experimentation: e.g. test out English Bob's ideas for modifying LL4.0, as described at https://www.linuxliteos.com/forums/tutorials/setting-up-linux-lite-v4-0-after-install-for-nvidia-card-users/   

If it breaks, while trying things out, it doesn't matter as it's not my main driver. Yes, while I could use a virtual machine for experimentation, I'm not too keen on this as I've found that VMs don't behave in exactly the same way as normal installs, e.g. video drivers are different, etc.

(2) The other LL4.0 install as my main driver: for all my day-to-day tasks & work



However, will grub recognise two separate installs of LL4.0 and list these on the grubscreen on booting? I suspect it may only list one of them. Is there a way around this?

Thanks in advance for any help with this.
« Last Edit: June 08, 2018, 11:43:17 AM by m654321 »
64bit OS (32-bit on Samsung netbook) installed in Legacy mode on MBR-formatted SSDs (except pi which uses a micro SDHC card):
2017 - Raspberry pi 3B (4cores) ~ [email protected] - LibreElec, used for upgrading our Samsung TV (excellent for the task)  
2012 - Lenovo G580 2689 (2cores; 4threads] ~ [email protected] - LL3.8/Win8.1 dual-boot (LL working smoothly)
2011 - Samsung NP-N145 Plus (1core; 2threads) ~ Intel Atom [email protected] - LL 3.8 32-bit (64-bit too 'laggy')
2008 - Asus X71Q (2cores) ~ Intel [email protected] - LL4.6/Win8.1 dual-boot, LL works fine with kernel 4.15
2007 - Dell Latitude D630 (2cores) ~ Intel [email protected] - LL4.6, works well with kernel 4.4; 4.15 doesn't work
 

 

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