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Re: The lunatic is having problems booting after installing
« Reply #15 on: February 07, 2015, 03:43:13 PM »
 

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Cheers friend, everything makes sense now, :D

I put a decktop together this morning first of all with a 80 GB HDD with win7 sharing with LL which installed and booted no problem, then I added a data drive with no problems but then I installed another drive and installed LL on it with it's grub on its MBR which really screwed things up.

I'll have a play with that set up soon and see if I can bodge something.

I completely agree with Gerry's aims, the grub2 menu really hacks me off big time, I always add this line to get rid of the "Advanced" line which no newcomer is ever going to use.
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# Remove Advanced option
GRUB_DISABLE_SUBMENU=y
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GRUB_GFXMODE=640x480
On a 1980x1080 display the text is barely readable, hidious and unfriendly
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# Uncomment to disable generation of recovery mode menu entries
GRUB_DISABLE_RECOVERY="true"
What possible use is this to a newcomer, it's just another line of clutter the lazy geeks needed and haven't removed just the same as the "Advanced" cr*p line, we need to reclaim our once very readable, user friendly menu back from the techies.

I generaly do this
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GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR="lite"
But I'd like to have "sda4" etc  at the end of the menu line.

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Re: The lunatic is having problems booting after installing
« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2015, 01:26:46 PM »
 

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@ukbrian,

I see you posted this on different thread:  https://www.linuxliteos.com/forums/index.php?topic=1581.msg11397#msg11397.

That was the reason I asked the questions I did in last post.  But you have not answered those questions, so not sure if that's the problem or not.

If you have LL installed with any other distro, make sure LL is the one in charge of booting.

If you have 2 different LL's installed and one is 2.0 or above and other is 1.08 or below, have the newest one in charge of booting.

If you have 2 LL's that are both 2.0 or above, then it will be harder to fix.  What will happen is that the one in charge of booting will boot, but the other one won't.  Here is Jerry's post explaining what tweak he made to grub that is cause of problem.  Around the time of those posts I briefly tried to reverse that change, but had no luck getting it to work.  Poster under Jerry's post says he solved problem by making a custom menu entry.  If you must have 2 LL's installed, maybe you could try that.
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Re: The lunatic is having problems booting after installing
« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2015, 10:02:42 AM »
 

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lol , you bad boy .
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Re: The lunatic is having problems booting after installing
« Reply #12 on: February 06, 2015, 10:01:39 AM »
 

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Re: The lunatic is having problems booting after installing
« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2015, 04:39:08 AM »
 

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If you get me into trouble with the big boss I'll stop talking to you.
rokytnji is a bad boy

I've always had my own web space hosted by an old friend to dump stuff at but he started jerking me off so I stopped it.

I started using imgur and it's OK for pics so I've started uploading all the little pics I post up there.

I've got a visual basic app a friend wrote that will import all the file names in a folder into a data base, you give them tags in the dbase and supply a url for them and it will then write a web page with the pics all catagorized and displayed with the url to paste into a forum. I tend to avoid posting big pics as they bulk up the forum page but in general the reaction is good and it doesn't load the forum server.

@gold_finger
I've put off making this post for weeks while I've been trying different things on the one machine, the odd part is I already have it installed on the machine so it was installing once but might have been an earlier version, can I download the previous release from anywhere?

Unless you have a better idea?
I've got to go out for a bit but when I get back I'll disconnect all but one drive, give it a new partition table and let the installer do an automatic partition business as I never normally do that I always prepare the partitions myself.

Another oddity that might be relavant is that with Voyager 14.04 neither saline-backup or grub-doctor list the partitions.


Also grub2 is buggy it gives you duplicate entries
I use this in etc/default/grub to remove some of the clutter
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# Remove Advanced option
GRUB_DISABLE_SUBMENU=y
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Re: The lunatic is having problems booting after installing
« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2015, 12:34:30 AM »
 

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ukbrian,

Do you have any other Linux distro installed on the computers with LL?  If so, what order were they installed in and do you remember where you directed boot loader installation for 32-bit LL?  Also, are the other distros 64-bit or 32-bit?  (You can run uname -a in a terminal under each distro to find that out.)

Or

Are/(Were) both the 32-bit and 64-bit versions of LL installed on same computers at same time (a dual-boot setup)?  If so, what order were they installed in and do you remember where you directed boot loader installation for the 32-bit LL?


Since it sounds like you did a bit of experimenting, just give quick summary of exactly what is currently installed on computer now.  List distro name, version #, and whether 32-bit or 64-bit.  Tell if any of them are bootable and working at this particular moment.

Are you using a live DVD or a live USB?  If USB, which program did you use to make the live USB?

Did you confirm that the md5sum of the LL ISO file matches the one shown on the download page?
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Re: The lunatic is having problems booting after installing
« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2015, 10:02:08 PM »
 

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Re: The lunatic is having problems booting after installing
« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2015, 09:23:04 PM »
 

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Re: The lunatic is having problems booting after installing
« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2015, 07:28:28 PM »
 

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while you wait on the real doctors to step in.
I'm not in any hurry but they need to tell me how to get the info they need, I use machines so I have little tec knowledge,
I use a file manager alot so when it keeps asking me for a bl**dy password everytime I click on  different folder it p*sses me off big time.
No other 14.04 distro I have tried does this they just mount and display the partition, ther was one guy posted who was having problems with his scripts abd I think it might have been down to this permissions business.

He's done an amazing job shoehorning 14.04 into a CD and he's attracted a very loyal crowd to himself and his creation.

My biggest beef with all the Debian installers is that they totally ignore the partition labeling, you prepare the partitions and then the installer reformats and zaps the labels. With Arch and opensuse which I don't use, the installer displays the property defaulting to the OS name which you can change.

Anthony Nordquist rewrote the remastersys installer and I asked him to add the property and got the answer "no not never" so I said no more but when he added his grub-docter where you have to pick a partition to write the grub for it gave me the chance to bring it up again so I posted a pic of grub-doctor alongside a shot of gparted, grub-doctor showed you sda1, sda2 etc gparted showed the labels, two days later he released an update and he went back to his installer and added the labels there and used them when he wrote saline-backup.

I think saline-backup would save you some time installing a standard OS on your notebooks bro. I will get it together but I've been sleeping every other night for the last six days but I think I'll be sleeping tonight for the second night in a row. I ran out of the sacred herb four days ago so without any medication.

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these touchscreen
Ikey got a touchscreen laptop so he could develop his Budgie DE for them it might be good on your notebooks, he also goes for intel graphics for Linux.
He also got a blueray writer to develop with and a TV so he has duel screens to develop for or test with.

Your trying to p*ss me off with those linky pics, I show you a perfect panel, just a little stubby thing in the corner so that if you set the panel propert "Don't reserve space on borders" you will have a full screen browser with the panel on top but hiding a small bit in the bottom right corner, surely you need the full depth of the screen for a browser without losing all that panel space on the bottom.

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I made something like 1500 post there, I very much doubt I made 25 posts on any other forum before or since.
 

Re: The lunatic is having problems booting after installing
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2015, 06:01:53 PM »
 

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Te He. My wife when she danced, was and still, is a good looker,  like your riding bro. We be old now.

You might want to take a look see through

https://www.linuxliteos.com/hwdb.html

while you wait on the real doctors to step in. You were fun when I ran SolusOS. I sold that model of netbook to buy these touchscreen models that are a step up from when you knew me there.

Code: [Select]
@scuzbucket:~
$ inxi -zv7
System:    Host: scuzbucket Kernel: 3.18-5.dmz.1-liquorix-686-pae i686 (32 bit gcc: 4.9.1)
           Desktop: Fluxbox 1.3.5 dm: slim
           Distro: antiX-14-a5-RV_386-full Killah_P 14 January 2015
Machine:   System: Intel (portable) product: Intel powered classmate PC v: 3rd Gen
           Mobo: QCI model: Intel powered classmate PC v: 3rd Gen
           Bios: Phoenix v: HP94510A.86A.0035.2009.0427.2020 date: 04/27/2009
CPU:       Single core Intel Atom N270 (-HT-) cache: 512 KB
           flags: (nx pae sse sse2 sse3 ssse3) bmips: 3192
           clock speeds: min/max: 800/1600 MHz 1: 1333 MHz 2: 1600 MHz
Memory:    Using dmidecode: you must be root to run dmidecode
Graphics:  Card: Intel Mobile 945GSE Express Integrated Graphics Controller
           bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:27ae
           Display Server: X.Org 1.16.2.901 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
           Resolution: [email protected]
           GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 945GME x86/MMX/SSE2
           GLX Version: 2.1 Mesa 10.3.2 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio:     Card Intel NM10/ICH7 Family High Definition Audio Controller
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:27d8
           Sound: ALSA v: k3.18-5.dmz.1-liquorix-686-pae
Network:   Card-1: Realtek RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller
           driver: r8169 v: 2.3LK-NAPI port: 2000
           bus-ID: 02:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8136
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
           Card-2: Ralink RT2870/RT3070 Wireless Adapter
           driver: rt2800usb v: 2.3.0 usb-ID: 004-004 chip-ID: 148f:3070
           IF: wlan0 state: N/A mac: N/A
           WAN IP: <filter> IF: eth0 ip: N/A ip-v6: N/A
           IF: wlan0 ip: <filter> ip-v6: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 60.0GB (7.5% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: TOSHIBA_MK6028GA size: 60.0GB serial: Y8EMW5AWW
           Optical: No optical drives detected.
Partition: ID-1: / size: 15G used: 4.2G (31%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1
           label: N/A uuid: 129d95eb-70ae-4fc1-8699-0b415b0fd761
           ID-2: /media/data size: 37G used: 48M (1%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda5
           label: /data uuid: e3728887-6e16-4261-b727-4772665997e9
RAID:      No RAID data: /proc/mdstat missing-is md_mod kernel module loaded?
Unmounted: ID-1: /dev/sda2 size: 4.24G
           label: N/A uuid: 382f5510-30a9-4453-abf2-ed218834396d
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 42.0C mobo: N/A
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 112 Uptime: 37 min Memory: 230.1/2012.1MB
           Init: SysVinit v: 2.88 runlevel: 5 default: 5 Gcc sys: 4.9.1
           Client: Shell (bash 4.3.301 running in roxterm) inxi: 2.2.18
@scuzbucket:~

What this little baby looks like when it is running

linky

What it looks like when it is not

linky

I just suck at support. Don't I?

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Re: The lunatic is having problems booting after installing
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2015, 04:54:54 PM »
 

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Well shoot bro. Where is the inxi report on the 64 bit system that boots.

You may be dyslexic or some big word.

But you cannot convince me you are stupid.
PS. I am not a team member here and I hope you know I am playing around.
Sh*t man why not make my life easier by telling me the parameters that you add to inxi, have I got to ask but I also said it's happening on 2 machines, one a triple core the other a quad

To do what you ask I've gotto go in the terminal even the word is scary at least MS call it some thing less scary like command line, if theres a need for this why aint there something in the bl**dy menu to click on, it's bad enough having to learn to use a menu, ask your average windows user if they ever use the start button and they'll give you a funny look, windows apps put a nice friendly launcher on the desktop that we use. Linux is so primitive for a user.
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user@mint1 ~ $ inxi -Fxz
System:    Host: mint1 Kernel: 3.13.0-24-generic i686 (32 bit, gcc: 4.8.2)
           Desktop: Xfce 4.11.8 (Gtk 2.24.23) Distro: Linux Mint 17 Qiana
Machine:   Mobo: Gigabyte model: GA-880GM-USB3 version: x.x Bios: Award version: FC date: 03/14/2011
CPU:       Quad core AMD Phenom II X4 850 (-MCP-) cache: 2048 KB flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4a svm) bmips: 26519.4
           Clock Speeds: 1: 800.00 MHz 2: 800.00 MHz 3: 3300.00 MHz 4: 800.00 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] RS880 [Radeon HD 4250] bus-ID: 01:05.0
           X.Org: 1.15.1 drivers: ati,radeon (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: [email protected]
           GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on AMD RS880 GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 10.1.3 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio:     Card-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] RS880 HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 4200 Series] driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 01:05.1
           Card-2: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:14.2
           Card-3: Logitech HD Webcam C510 driver: USB Audio usb-ID: 046d:081d
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture ver: k3.13.0-24-generic
Network:   Card: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller
           driver: r8169 ver: 2.3LK-NAPI port: ce00 bus-ID: 03:00.0
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 2200.5GB (55.4% used) 1: id: /dev/sda model: Corsair_CSSD size: 40.0GB temp: 1C
           2: id: /dev/sdb model: ST31000524AS size: 1000.2GB temp: 37C 3: USB id: /dev/sdc model: 2115 size: 160.0GB temp: 0C
           4: USB id: /dev/sdh model: FreeAgent_Pro size: 1000.2GB temp: 0C
Partition: ID: / size: 20G used: 3.7G (21%) fs: ext4 ID: swap-1 size: 4.19GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap
RAID:      No RAID devices detected - /proc/mdstat and md_mod kernel raid module present
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 26.0C mobo: N/A
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 182 Uptime: 7:28 Memory: 666.3/3522.0MB Runlevel: 2 Gcc sys: 4.8.2 Client: Shell inxi: 1.8.4
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Re: The lunatic is having problems booting after installing
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2015, 04:20:15 PM »
 

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Well shoot bro. Where is the inxi report on the 64 bit system that boots.

You may be dyslexic or some big word.

But you cannot convince me you are stupid.
PS. I am not a team member here and I hope you know I am playing around.
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Re: The lunatic is having problems booting after installing
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2015, 03:48:01 PM »
 

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I would but they didn't have schools when I grew up and I'm dyslectic or some big word, reading and writting is hard for some folk.

Feck it I'll go for a run if the bitch will start


User friendly and RTFM don't compute, error

I'm a user I don't want work arounds, I expect it to work!
I paid my money, I want service!
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Re: The lunatic is having problems booting after installing
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Try the nomodeset boot  option in 32 bit you crazy guy.

I give you

RTFM

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[SOLVED] Lunatic is having problems booting after installing
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2015, 02:33:18 PM »
 

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This is happening to me on two machines both AMD, ATI boxes.

With 32 bit
Standard install nothing strange and I've tried with putting the grub in the root and into the MBR but when I boot all I get in the grub menu is
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Description: (on /dev/sdc6)
/boot/initrd.img-3.13.0-24-generic (on /dev/sdc6)
Description: (on /dev/sdc6)
/boot/initrd.img-3.13.0-24-generic (on /dev/sdc6)
Description: (on /dev/sdc6)
/boot/initrd.img-3.13.0-24-generic (on /dev/sdc6)
The duplicate lines are a grub2 bug but it don't boot off either option.

The 64 bit version boots OK  but I prefer using 32 bit.



There's no rush but there's a reward on offer


I've tried multiple DVD's, checked the md5 and tried on different HDD's
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