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Re: Defrag
« Reply #21 on: September 08, 2016, 03:30:50 PM »
 

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To me... That sounds more related to the graphics driver... Shadowed/delayed/ghosted images, more so as if the the video is refreshing slower..

If you wanted to update the video driver, I would make a systemback backup as the first thing.. If the updated driver doesn't work you can easily revert back.

Give the manual a read https://www.linuxliteos.com/manual/hardware.html#graphics
Then you could check in the Install Drivers (type from menu) to see if any better drivers are available.. (listed in the manual)
As well as searching the forums for ATI or AMD or Radeon for hits..
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Re: Defrag
« Reply #20 on: September 08, 2016, 09:50:22 AM »
 

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A couple things -
Lag and Slowness are a bit general - are you having the same lag hovering over icons?
You're using LL3.0 Ubuntu base is 16.04; 14.04 fixes may or may not resolve exactly...

For the hardware you shouldn't notice any slowness in general...
If the slowness is similar to the icons as with the link provided - it maybe graphics related (updating driver) but I'm going to take a stab and say the slowness you're experiencing is related to internet browsing/connectivity??? Again this is my guess as I see its a Broadcom  ;)

I'm curious to what's slow for you..
Pinpointing exactly will yield different drivers to update/support.

Also before updating drivers; I would suggest making a Systemback backup, if updating drivers have an ill effect it will be easy to revert back.

Some info on Broadcom - https://www.linuxliteos.com/forums/network/(solved)-broadcom-wireless-issue/msg4997/#msg4997
But searching will result a lot of results.. Again if the slowness is network related  :o

I was posting the same time as Jerry... Or as he suggests....

Hmm.. I wish I can explain it more accurately. It's not slow like a speed of a car, it's more laggy for example minimizing a browser it tends to leave some kind of trail some sort of a shadow.
 

Re: Defrag
« Reply #19 on: September 08, 2016, 09:47:00 AM »
 

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It's O.K, but 5 to 6X slower than an SSD

I've installed a virtual machine do you think it's possible to run it with this specs? I'm planning to install windows in it.
 

Re: Defrag
« Reply #18 on: September 08, 2016, 09:45:04 AM »
 

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Re: Defrag
« Reply #17 on: September 08, 2016, 09:44:49 AM »
 

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Disks:



« Last Edit: September 10, 2016, 11:35:51 AM by Jerry »
 

Re: Defrag
« Reply #16 on: September 08, 2016, 09:38:55 AM »
 

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You can also do a quick test on the disk:

Use whatever your sdx is, a, b, c

For comparison,
On a good WD Hard Disk
Code: [Select]
sudo hdparm -t /dev/sdb/dev/sdb:
 Timing buffered disk reads: 332 MB in  3.00 seconds = 110.57 MB/sec

On Samsung SSD
Code: [Select]
sudo hdparm -t /dev/sda/dev/sda:
 Timing buffered disk reads: 1494 MB in  3.00 seconds = 497.68 MB/sec
This is what I got:

Timing buffered disk reads: 244 MB in  3.01 seconds =  81.03 MB/sec


 

Re: Defrag
« Reply #15 on: September 06, 2016, 03:30:14 PM »
 

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You can also do a quick test on the disk:

Use whatever your sdx is, a, b, c

For comparison,
On a good WD Hard Disk
Code: [Select]
sudo hdparm -t /dev/sdb/dev/sdb:
 Timing buffered disk reads: 332 MB in  3.00 seconds = 110.57 MB/sec

On Samsung SSD
Code: [Select]
sudo hdparm -t /dev/sda/dev/sda:
 Timing buffered disk reads: 1494 MB in  3.00 seconds = 497.68 MB/sec



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Re: Defrag
« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2016, 02:33:29 PM »
 

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Just to check on the HD as likely culprit, go to Disks, press CTRL+S, and look over your SMART Data.
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Re: Defrag
« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2016, 01:14:45 PM »
 

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@firenice03 raises some good points

Are you seeing laggy internet..??
What does a speed test give you.?

With that CPU you should not have issues really
Benchmark for: AMD A6-3420M

On my N3700 I get to the desktop from cold boot in @ 10~12secs with a SSD


I think your disk is a bottleneck



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Re: Defrag
« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2016, 01:01:23 PM »
 

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I concur with Jerry.
I think that HD is a significant source of performance issues...
Benchmark for Hitachi HT54505

I think any recent SSD is going to be a major boost.

You are only using 3.7% of 500GB, so even a cheap 120/128GB would be enough
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Re: Defrag
« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2016, 12:51:40 PM »
 

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A couple things -
Lag and Slowness are a bit general - are you having the same lag hovering over icons?
You're using LL3.0 Ubuntu base is 16.04; 14.04 fixes may or may not resolve exactly...

For the hardware you shouldn't notice any slowness in general...
If the slowness is similar to the icons as with the link provided - it maybe graphics related (updating driver) but I'm going to take a stab and say the slowness you're experiencing is related to internet browsing/connectivity??? Again this is my guess as I see its a Broadcom  ;)

I'm curious to what's slow for you..
Pinpointing exactly will yield different drivers to update/support.

Also before updating drivers; I would suggest making a Systemback backup, if updating drivers have an ill effect it will be easy to revert back.

Some info on Broadcom - https://www.linuxliteos.com/forums/network/(solved)-broadcom-wireless-issue/msg4997/#msg4997
But searching will result a lot of results.. Again if the slowness is network related  :o

I was posting the same time as Jerry... Or as he suggests....
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Re: Defrag
« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2016, 12:49:05 PM »
 

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Your specs aren't that bad. You'd be better off upgrading to a cheap SSD. Your hard drive is pretty low spec.

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Re: Defrag
« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2016, 11:15:01 AM »
 

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Just my plugged nickle and to maybe add help to then00b....  ;)

Defragging was the go to for Windows for PC slowness, usually; clear temps, cache, disk clean up and defrag...

You can also use "Lite Tweaks" to clean up/maintain the system similarly to disk clean up.. Anything marked safe is a no brainer; those marked caution are more so for specific fixes for problems so be mindful when selecting.

For slowness, maybe adding a bit more info; when are you noticing the slow down.. browsing, working with "XX" application or in general = boot up etc..
Along with system specs or the output of
Code: [Select]
inxi -F

I've tried defrag already. Still the same, still lag.
Here's the specs:
System:    Host: linuxlite-Aspire-5560 Kernel: 4.4.0-36-generic x86_64 (64 bit)
           Desktop: Xfce 4.12.3 Distro: Ubuntu 16.04 xenial
Machine:   System: Acer (portable) product: Aspire 5560 v: 0.1
           Mobo: Acer model: Aspire 5560 v: A11
           Bios: Phoenix v: V1.15 date: 12/05/2011
CPU:       Quad core AMD A6-3420M APU with Radeon HD Graphics (-MCP-) cache: 4096 KB
           clock speeds: max: 1500 MHz 1: 1200 MHz 2: 1200 MHz 3: 1400 MHz
           4: 900 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] BeaverCreek [Radeon HD 6520G]
           Display Server: X.Org 1.18.3 drivers: ati,radeon (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
           Resolution: [email protected]
           GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on AMD SUMO (DRM 2.43.0, LLVM 3.8.0)
           GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 11.2.0
Audio:     Card-1 Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] FCH Azalia Controller
           driver: snd_hda_intel
           Card-2 Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] BeaverCreek HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 6500D and 6400G-6600G series]
           driver: snd_hda_intel
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.4.0-36-generic
Network:   Card-1: Broadcom NetLink BCM57785 Gigabit Ethernet PCIe driver: tg3
           IF: p4p1 state: down
           Card-2: Broadcom BCM43227 802.11b/g/n driver: wl
           IF: wlp2s0 state: up
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 500.1GB (3.7% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: Hitachi_HTS54505 size: 500.1GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 455G used: 14G (4%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 3.73GB used: 0.01GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda5
RAID:      No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 50.2C mobo: 43.0C gpu: 51.0
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 207 Uptime: 4:21 Memory: 1723.5/3422.1MB
           Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.2.35

http://askubuntu.com/questions/515126/how-to-make-ubuntu-14-04-run-with-less-lag I've tried searching for solutions and I found this. What do you think?
« Last Edit: September 06, 2016, 11:22:36 AM by then00b »
 

Re: Defrag
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2016, 10:03:00 AM »
 

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Just my plugged nickle and to maybe add help to then00b....  ;)

Defragging was the go to for Windows for PC slowness, usually; clear temps, cache, disk clean up and defrag...

You can also use "Lite Tweaks" to clean up/maintain the system similarly to disk clean up.. Anything marked safe is a no brainer; those marked caution are more so for specific fixes for problems so be mindful when selecting.

For slowness, maybe adding a bit more info; when are you noticing the slow down.. browsing, working with "XX" application or in general = boot up etc..
Along with system specs or the output of
Code: [Select]
inxi -F

LL4.8 UEFI 64 bit ASUS E402W - AMD E2 (Quad) 1.5Ghz  - 4GB - AMD Mullins Radeon R2
LL5.8 UEFI 64 bit Test UEFI Kangaroo (Mobile Desktop) - Atom X5-Z8500 1.44Ghz - 2GB - Intel HD Graphics
LL4.8 64 bit HP 6005- AMD Phenom II X2 - 8GB - AMD/ATI RS880 (HD4200)
LL3.8 32 bit Dell Inspiron Mini - Atom N270 1.6Ghz - 1GB - Intel Mobile 945GSE Express  -- Shelved
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Re: Defrag
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2016, 09:08:57 AM »
 

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Agree with richtea, no point in defragging in linux, but if it gives you peace of mind then go for it.

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