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Quote:you mention forum size: you say the other communities are better as they are larger, LL having 'fewer regulars'.

For me... "Quality", Not Quantity

I enjoy reading the things mentioned on this thread. And would like to remind people if you find anything lacking for Linux Lite as a whole we are always open to suggestions and small aditions to help make things easier for users. As one of the devs/contributors of sorts I'm always open to expanding the things we can offer. Just post these ideas in the proper place so we can better track them.

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Thanks Dave, that's what I was trying to say too!

Mike

(04-15-2016, 10:50 PM)shaggytwodope link Wrote: [ -> ]I enjoy reading the things mentioned on this thread. And would like to remind people if you find anything lacking for Linux Lite as a whole we are always open to suggestions and small aditions to help make things easier for users. As one of the devs/contributors of sorts I'm always open to expanding the things we can offer. Just post these ideas in the proper place so we can better track them.

Hi Shaggy,

Thanks for the encouragement once again!

My suggestion at this point would be about the process of posting and handling ideas themselves to address:

• Ideas getting lost on the forum in between all the discussions. They might get lost for good or lead to double posts.
  
• Posting ideas without getting feedback is not very encouraging. Even getting a "decline" is much better then talking to a brick wall.
  

So the question would be how ideas could be consolidated in one place and their status shown?

Would it be a separate category with all ideas extracted from all over the forum and each single one with a voting possibility to also give the developer some indication about priorities for users/forum members? Or using a different platform like GitHub or even something like uservoice.com. Although the latter wouldn't be free.

Thanks for the consideration

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• Ideas getting lost on the forum in between all the discussions. They might get lost for good or lead to double posts.
  
• Posting ideas without getting feedback is not very encouraging. Even getting a "decline" is much better then talking to a brick wall.
  

 

LL-user, just some of my views to what you said...
- ideas don't really get lost if you have a search function to track down areas you're interested in or posts you visited once and want to read again
- to help reduce duplication of posts it's a good idea to run a search first, before posting, though I think a certain low level of duplication is perhaps unavoidable
- have to say that I've always found feedback pretty prompt & helpful

Quote: So the question would be how ideas could be consolidated in one place and their status shown? Would it be a separate category with all ideas extracted from all over the forum and each single one with a voting possibility to also give the developer some indication about priorities for users/forum members? Or using a different platform like GitHub or even something like uservoice.com. Although the latter wouldn't be free.

- I think this, in itself, would create duplication and would put a further demand on the moderators' time, which they give voluntarily
- not sure I like ideas being selected/rejected by popular vote - some excellent ideas might not be popular (as they may not be fully appreciated or understood) and so risk being lost with a voting system. I suspect a significant proportion of LL's target audience, i.e. ex-Windows OS users (myself included), don't have the competence or experience with Linux to judge whether some ideas are worthy or not... I leave that to the developers

Mike

Hi Mike,

Thanks for your input!

I agree regarding the search functionality if a user is looking for help or want to check whether a suggestion/request/bug report has been already logged. However, I was referring to the developers. How are they supposed to use the search function to find these suggestions etc. in general? In saying that, I would assume that Jerry & Co have some process in place (outside this forum) to track this and we just don't know about it So maybe another way to approach it, would be to suggest more transparency of this "list", like a more detailed road map, maybe even including a list of declined suggestions?

The other aspect I tried to bring across - but obviously didn't - was the feedback from the developers towards the user. And I am not talking about help requests! This forum is one of the best I have come across when it comes to looking for help.

I'm referring to feedback to suggestions etc. submitted. Take this example:
https://www.linuxliteos.com/forums/sugge.../#msg21946

So I submitted these 14 suggestions I had collected over some time.
How do I know the developers haven seen it? How do I know whether I made myself clear? How do I know what they think of it, or even what they have decided?
I don't!
Will this encourage me to invest the time again? I definitely will think twice.

And, again, it's not about getting a positive or negative feedback, it's about getting a feedback at all. Also a "declined" is a valuable feedback

In regard to the voting. It's meant to be one of many indicators, not the sole parameter for working on something or not.
I got to know it via my involvement with Taskcoach and found it very helpful:
https://taskcoach.uservoice.com

Every post is read in regards to suggestions. We wouldn't be where we are without them. I read reviews, watch Youtube videos on LL. Anywhere on the net LL is mentioned, I read.

https://www.linuxliteos.com/forums/sugge...on-thread/

Use that first post as a summary of how I treat suggestions. Cheers

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Hi LL-user,

I think it's unrealistic for everyone to expect individual feedback (whatever its form) from developers for every idea submitted, due to the time factor. The developers (like most people) have families, jobs and other responsibilities and interests, outside of their time in front of a PC. That said, I'm sure if you submit a good idea worthy of further consideration, it will get acknowledged... 

Mike

Mike is spot on, thank you Mike

All good. Just bouncing ideas how to make the process more efficient and effective for the project AS WELL AS for the developers.
Obviously there are many ways to skin a cat... and at least as many opinions on top of it

Keep up the great work. Thanks once again, Jerry and team